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Anyone else buy soy-free eggs? Where? And what's the payoff?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 02, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I've bought 8 dozen eggs from Tropical Traditions.

http://www.grassfedtraditions.com/organic_soy_free_eggs.htm

With shipping costs, you're looking at $8 a dozen (or in the ballpark). I believe Tropical Traditions is correct in their assertion that appreciable quantities of soy end up in chicken meat and eggs. They have at least one source that backs up the assertion.

http://etd.ohiolink.edu/view.cgi/Vargas%20Galdos%20Dante%20Miguel%20Marcial.pdf?osu1236706764

This topic has also been addressed in the PH question, "Are soy proteins found in the eggs of chickens that get soy-based feed?"

I am highly intolerant/allergic to soy. Ingesting small quantities, present in eggs and even pork products, leads to (or correlates with, technically, because I'm not 100% sure of causality) red dots on my skin, particularly the chest, legs, and back. There is intense itchiness as well.

So this leads to my two questions. Is there anywhere that beats this price? Slanker's is a no-go. They recommend Christopher's eggs, which uses a feed. Pastured eggs use feeds--I don't care how much "free-ranging" in a "Salatin-like" pasture these chickens do. They get soy-containing feed unless it is explicitly "soy free."

There's a place in CA that won't ship.

There's a few places I found via Internet research that seem to have gone belly-up.

I would like to pay less than $8/dozen. I like eggs!

Question 2 aims at questioning my premise. Perhaps I'm drawing a false correlation. Perhaps there's something else that causes the bumps and itch. But don't go with gluten, because I've been strictly gluten-free for four years. And I don't get fooled much anymore. Don't question my paleo "creds" because I don't "cheat." I do consume heavy cream and rice but I've also eliminated these for months at a time and I know they are not the culprit. I have been using elimination diets for four years and am well-trained and very detailed, to the point of keeping logs and stuff (though I no longer do it full time). So, among the major allergens, I've cleared them all.

Thoughts?

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

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on December 31, 2011
at 11:42 PM

I agree. Thanks.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 19, 2011
at 12:25 AM

When directly asked (in the past) they have said no soy to me (via phone and email). Now they say soy (when directly asked). Either things changed or they lied. I used to like you Jack.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on December 17, 2011
at 04:12 AM

who lies about it? the only company I have ever seen claim no soy is tropical traditions. vital farms has never claimed that to my knowledge.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 15, 2011
at 07:09 PM

Jack -Did you read my earlier comments? I contacted Vital farms months ago both via phone and email -that is why I am surprised. It doesn't surprise me that big producers use Soy, but that they Lie about it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 15, 2011
at 04:07 PM

That makes sense.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on December 15, 2011
at 03:27 PM

... or go with Trop Trad, of course.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on December 15, 2011
at 03:27 PM

You guys are surprised about the soy? Unless a company specifically claims "No Soy" like tropical Traditions does, you can bet your whole life savings that they supp soy in the feed. Chickens will lay eggs without it, but not when you're trying to run a large business operation like Vital Farms runs. A family farm can have chickens laying eggs just whenever and not worry about it. A big egg producer has to meet numbers. Gotta go local and ask directly if you want eggs without soy.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 06, 2011
at 05:14 PM

That is really really interesting. I will have to keep that in mind.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 05, 2011
at 05:11 PM

Meg -that is horrible hear! I had email and phone correspondence with them!! I don't react to these eggs, so maybe it is minimal. Sigh..time to switch to tropical traditions (I was tempted to do that anyway!).

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on December 04, 2011
at 04:59 AM

Vitalfarms states they have soy in their feed. Check out the comments on this blog post. http://vitalfarms.com/2011/11/video-blog-vital-farms-follows-our-eggs-from-the-capital-area-food-bank-to-families-in-need

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on December 03, 2011
at 05:41 AM

I see you're from Ohio. Check out some of these farms for their eggs: http://www.lionsgrip.com/farms.html#210

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 03, 2011
at 03:23 AM

Ah, yes, the all vegetarian feed. I must pass on even the smallest amount of soy in the feed, though.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 03, 2011
at 03:20 AM

April S., I seem to recall seeing Chino Valley online. Unfortunately you can't actually buy them online...

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 03, 2011
at 03:19 AM

Excellent question Alexandra. I suspect it varies from person to person. But I have no minimum number.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

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on December 03, 2011
at 03:09 AM

Yeah, that's the same for me -- shop local for everything I can... and only if I've exhausted the local options, do I go to Whole Foods... but I'll go to WF before I'll go to any of the national chains that push corporate food 'round here. There is one more store that is a state-wide independent chain... I'll shop there on occasion as well, but they don't have a lot of organic stuff, and NO pastured meats or eggs, or organic dairy.... so really, I pretty much only go there for toilet tissue and garlic ('cause they get their garlic locally and it's the BOMB!)

C471216c9fb4fcf886b7ac84a4046b49

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on December 03, 2011
at 01:22 AM

same here, no eggs for me ATM

27361737e33ba2f73ab3c25d2699ad61

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on December 02, 2011
at 09:47 PM

Thanks for links wjones3044. Now I'm wondering if my 4 per day farmer's market egg habit is loading me up with soy isoflavones. The link above says that soy feed resulted in 1000ug of isoflavones per 100 grams of the yolk. How much isoflavone is too much?

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on December 02, 2011
at 08:13 PM

I buy the Chino Valley Ranchers Soy-Free large brown AA eggs with Omega-3 at Whole Foods. I think they're about $5-6. http://www.chinovalleyranchers.com/our_eggs_soy_free_organic.asp

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 02, 2011
at 08:05 PM

Firestorm -I live in a big city which lots of farms, where eating local is huge. My not finding better options is sheer laziness. So I tried my best to shop local through farmers markets and CSA, and only go to Whole foods as a last resort.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

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on December 02, 2011
at 08:01 PM

Senneth, may I ask why you avoid Whole Foods. If I can't get something at the Farmer's Market or one of my local farmers, that's the only place I shop -- I figure it's got to be better than the -regular- corporate grocery stores 'round here.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Been there. Done that. Also visited eatwild and contacted every last one of those farmers. At my local coop I bought every kind of eggs from local farmers and contacted each one (or tried to...about half of them failed to respond to email requests for information...and some of them didn't have web pages, so I never was able to contact them). At any rate, the universal response among those that advertise "pastured" eggs is "we supplement with feed." Trust me, it is EXTREMELY rare in the United States to raise chickens with soy-free feed.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:11 PM

I live in Columbus, OH in a residential area. To keep chickens here, one must get notarized statements from one's neighbors, have a waste disposal plan, and a coop that has been certified by local health inspectors. I travel a lot for work, so that's a consideration, too; but the bureaucratic red tape on this is just too much.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:09 PM

NOTE: I had an email correspondence with Christopher eggs people and they specified that they use a proprietary feed that contains "small amounts of soy."

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:08 PM

If the dose makes the poison, Vital Farms and Christopher eggs (available at Kroger in my neck of the woods) are very good, mainstream choices. But I HATE those red bumps. The only brand I've found that I can eat my 4-6 egg scrambles on a regular basis and have clear skin would be Tropical Traditions. I can eat the Christopher eggs sporadically and not have a problem. I think it is a matter of the proportion of feed to pasture and also the proportion of soy within the feed. Christopher uses a distinctly different feed with less soy. Perhaps Vital Farms uses a better feed as well.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 02, 2011
at 06:56 PM

I did call and talk to someone in a person a few months ago. Also, from an allergic standpoint, I would be able to tell within 3 eggs. I eat about 2-4 vital farms eggs a day. Although I am VERY tempted by that link to tropical traditions. The price is slightly more -but I hate supporting Whole Foods.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

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on December 02, 2011
at 06:45 PM

I like Vital Farms too, but they state they supplement feed. They do say they avoid G.M.O. corn, but they DON'T (that I've found, anyhow) say that they ALSO avoid SOY. Hopefully (for the sake of yourself as well as anyone reading) you've 100% confirmed that their feed does NOT contain soy. Having said that, I still buy their eggs exclusively.

C471216c9fb4fcf886b7ac84a4046b49

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on December 02, 2011
at 06:14 PM

wtf!??!?! i get this too! pork and eggs...i never correlated it! i noticed it stopped when i stopped eating pork...then eggs went outa season so i bought some store ones..bahhhh

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F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on December 02, 2011
at 06:30 PM

I think your on the right track!!

The provider I am currently working with told me the same thing! She said that the rumen digestive system of beef and lamb can filter out a majority of allergens from their feed -but poultry and pork can't do that.

The payoff of finding soy-free eggs was huge for me! I can eat eggs now with zero issues. I had thought I was allergic to eggs for years!! Since being 100% choosy about this -I am no longer 'allergic' to eggs, and all of the major inflammation is GONE.

I buy Vital farms eggs from Whole foods. (http://vitalfarms.com/) looks like you can order online. That tropical traditions link looks good too. I basically just went to Whole foods, wrote down all the brands, and called all the companies. It was surprising to me to find out that most of the farmers market producers of eggs fed their chickens the traditional vegetarian IFA feed that contains soy. I purchase pork and chicken locally from farmers who tell me exactly what is in their feed. I will admit that I mostly stick with grassfed beef and lamb just to avoid any and all problems.

UPDATE: After reading the below comments, I decided to email Vital Farms (although prior contact was no-soy). Here was the response:

In addition to grass and other pasture goodies, our hens get a feed ration made up mainly of organic corn and a small amount of unprocessed organic soybean meal. It???s the only way that we can insure that they get enough of the essential amino acid, lysine in their diet, without which, they simply won???t lay eggs. There are no GMO???s or any other non-organic ingredients in our birds' feed. In speaking with a number of customers over the years with soy allergies, I???ve been told repeatedly that they???ve had no adverse reactions from eating our eggs. There are some soy free eggs on the market, but they often use animal products such as blood or bone meal (mainly from chicken) or fish meal, a non-sustainable source of protein. We won???t feed our girls feed that contain either. We are in the process of seeking a grain alternative to soy from non-traditional sources and hope to have news to you when we are happy with the results.

Wow. I was stunned. They won't lay eggs huh? What did chickens ever do before the mass the product of soy for animal feed? Jeez! I am under the impression that soy is a strong thyroid and hormone disruptor, that has to be worse than some fish meal.

Tropical traditions here I come!!!!

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 02, 2011
at 07:08 PM

If the dose makes the poison, Vital Farms and Christopher eggs (available at Kroger in my neck of the woods) are very good, mainstream choices. But I HATE those red bumps. The only brand I've found that I can eat my 4-6 egg scrambles on a regular basis and have clear skin would be Tropical Traditions. I can eat the Christopher eggs sporadically and not have a problem. I think it is a matter of the proportion of feed to pasture and also the proportion of soy within the feed. Christopher uses a distinctly different feed with less soy. Perhaps Vital Farms uses a better feed as well.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 02, 2011
at 07:09 PM

NOTE: I had an email correspondence with Christopher eggs people and they specified that they use a proprietary feed that contains "small amounts of soy."

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on December 03, 2011
at 03:09 AM

Yeah, that's the same for me -- shop local for everything I can... and only if I've exhausted the local options, do I go to Whole Foods... but I'll go to WF before I'll go to any of the national chains that push corporate food 'round here. There is one more store that is a state-wide independent chain... I'll shop there on occasion as well, but they don't have a lot of organic stuff, and NO pastured meats or eggs, or organic dairy.... so really, I pretty much only go there for toilet tissue and garlic ('cause they get their garlic locally and it's the BOMB!)

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on December 02, 2011
at 06:45 PM

I like Vital Farms too, but they state they supplement feed. They do say they avoid G.M.O. corn, but they DON'T (that I've found, anyhow) say that they ALSO avoid SOY. Hopefully (for the sake of yourself as well as anyone reading) you've 100% confirmed that their feed does NOT contain soy. Having said that, I still buy their eggs exclusively.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on December 02, 2011
at 06:56 PM

I did call and talk to someone in a person a few months ago. Also, from an allergic standpoint, I would be able to tell within 3 eggs. I eat about 2-4 vital farms eggs a day. Although I am VERY tempted by that link to tropical traditions. The price is slightly more -but I hate supporting Whole Foods.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on December 02, 2011
at 08:01 PM

Senneth, may I ask why you avoid Whole Foods. If I can't get something at the Farmer's Market or one of my local farmers, that's the only place I shop -- I figure it's got to be better than the -regular- corporate grocery stores 'round here.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on December 02, 2011
at 08:05 PM

Firestorm -I live in a big city which lots of farms, where eating local is huge. My not finding better options is sheer laziness. So I tried my best to shop local through farmers markets and CSA, and only go to Whole foods as a last resort.

Df37dee1b45f564770863d8a74016cbe

(1035)

on December 04, 2011
at 04:59 AM

Vitalfarms states they have soy in their feed. Check out the comments on this blog post. http://vitalfarms.com/2011/11/video-blog-vital-farms-follows-our-eggs-from-the-capital-area-food-bank-to-families-in-need

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on December 05, 2011
at 05:11 PM

Meg -that is horrible hear! I had email and phone correspondence with them!! I don't react to these eggs, so maybe it is minimal. Sigh..time to switch to tropical traditions (I was tempted to do that anyway!).

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on December 15, 2011
at 03:27 PM

You guys are surprised about the soy? Unless a company specifically claims "No Soy" like tropical Traditions does, you can bet your whole life savings that they supp soy in the feed. Chickens will lay eggs without it, but not when you're trying to run a large business operation like Vital Farms runs. A family farm can have chickens laying eggs just whenever and not worry about it. A big egg producer has to meet numbers. Gotta go local and ask directly if you want eggs without soy.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on December 15, 2011
at 07:09 PM

Jack -Did you read my earlier comments? I contacted Vital farms months ago both via phone and email -that is why I am surprised. It doesn't surprise me that big producers use Soy, but that they Lie about it.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on December 15, 2011
at 03:27 PM

... or go with Trop Trad, of course.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on December 17, 2011
at 04:12 AM

who lies about it? the only company I have ever seen claim no soy is tropical traditions. vital farms has never claimed that to my knowledge.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on December 19, 2011
at 12:25 AM

When directly asked (in the past) they have said no soy to me (via phone and email). Now they say soy (when directly asked). Either things changed or they lied. I used to like you Jack.

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Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:58 PM

I get mine from a local farmer who also uses cocofeed... but they don't ship (I have to go out to their farm to get eggs). They also don't have eggs year-round, since they let their "layers" rest for 3 months during the deep winter -- so for those months, I order from Tropical Traditions as well.

C471216c9fb4fcf886b7ac84a4046b49

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on December 03, 2011
at 01:22 AM

same here, no eggs for me ATM

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on December 16, 2011
at 12:04 AM

I've been buying Chino Valley's at the store now that it's cold and can't get local eggs. But yeah, most folks I've talked to say it's "impossible" to get eggs from chickens without soy. My guess is they mean that to keep up with demand, they require the estrogenic compounds found in soy to get them to produce enough to be profitable.

I wonder if you have a local health foods store or co-op who would consider ordering some for you? Their distributor may have access to things you otherwise wouldn't.

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on December 15, 2011
at 07:26 AM

contact meadow ridge farms at 1-717-530-5999for soy-free eggs etc

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on December 02, 2011
at 10:52 PM

Gold Circle Farms eggs, according to their FAQ page, only uses a small amount of soy to feed their chickens.

http://goldcirclefarms.com/products.html

From their FAQ page: What do you feed your hens? Gold Circle Farms hens are given an all natural, vegetarian feed consisting of corn, flaxseed, wheat mill run, Limestone, Methionine (Amino Acid), salt, Marigold extract, vitamins and trace minerals. There is also a small amount of soy bean meal in the hens diets. It is completely free of animal by products and GMOs.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 03, 2011
at 03:23 AM

Ah, yes, the all vegetarian feed. I must pass on even the smallest amount of soy in the feed, though.

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:52 PM

Ive seen them and bough them once at Whole Foods about 4 months back haven't seen them since. I also get the red dots.

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on December 02, 2011
at 06:37 PM

Depending where you live, there may be local farmer's markets you can go to and see if there's any eggs. Check with the farmer on what and how they feed them. Build a relationship. Go early (they can go fast).

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 02, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Been there. Done that. Also visited eatwild and contacted every last one of those farmers. At my local coop I bought every kind of eggs from local farmers and contacted each one (or tried to...about half of them failed to respond to email requests for information...and some of them didn't have web pages, so I never was able to contact them). At any rate, the universal response among those that advertise "pastured" eggs is "we supplement with feed." Trust me, it is EXTREMELY rare in the United States to raise chickens with soy-free feed.

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Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on February 08, 2012
at 11:02 PM

If you're on the west coast, Mission Mountain feeds their eggs (supplemental; they are pastured) Montana raised, certified organic, wheat, peas, and oats, and alfalfa hay in the winter. They also supplement with fish meal. Their eggs are delicious. MM very specifically does NOT use soy (or corn).

In the San Francisco Bay Area, the distributor I use for my MM eggs is Real Food Bay Area (a local CSA). I recommend them without hesitation.

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on February 08, 2012
at 10:54 PM

You can purchase organic, pasture-raised, soy-free eggs at Whole Foods Market in Texas Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Arkansas. Jeremiah Cunningham's World's Best Eggs just launched them a few months ago, and they're amazing!

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on December 15, 2011
at 03:03 PM

I wonder if Robb Wolf egg as an inflammatory food, is based on the soy fed to the chickens?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 15, 2011
at 04:07 PM

That makes sense.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 15, 2011
at 02:27 PM

I guess by feeding the neighbours chickens I am getting a few soy-free eggs. In Mexico chickens roam all over hell 'n gone and are responsible for feeding themselves it seems. We have even had them wander into small restaurants. Henny started laying eggs in my laundry basket so I rigged up some faux laundry for her- now another hen has found it too.

I had never worried about soy in the chicken feed before!

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782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

on December 15, 2011
at 02:11 PM

I keep ten hens and live in a rural town that caters to farmers and still have a tough time finding soy-free feeds. And a laugh when I read how chickens eat a "vegetarian" diet. Bull! They are omnivores with an emphasis on MEAT. I have watched them chase down a mouse/lizard/skink and eat the hell out of it. I throw meat scraps in the run and they can see it coming and fight over who gets what. They LOVE meat! They are little dinosaurs after all.

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on December 04, 2011
at 04:25 AM

You can buy home test kits for gluten and I think you can also get kits for soy. I have seen positive test results for gluten in eggs.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on December 06, 2011
at 05:14 PM

That is really really interesting. I will have to keep that in mind.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

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on December 31, 2011
at 11:42 PM

I agree. Thanks.

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on December 03, 2011
at 03:01 PM

Well the pay off is more omega 3's depending on how much grass/slugs/insects they eat, but also on how much grain they eat. This is where the legitimacy of the farmer comes into play and whether they can be trusted to provide with the correct information. I find where I live people are very open. I manage to find free range organic eggs, unfortunately they are supplemented with soy and grain, how annoying. But its the best I can find.

Free range organic seems to be best, but the chickens will do whatever they want to do in terms of more grass or more grain/soy. Maybe they are only given grain/soy at certain points? I'm not sure.

The ultimate solution is have your own chickens, that is purely paleo! You could be getting plenty of eggs everyday, probably more than you cant eat, especially from some of the hybrid chickens. Don't forget goose and duck eggs too, they are lovely.

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on December 02, 2011
at 06:11 PM

I'm not being snarky here, but where do you live? Could you keep a few chickens of your own? You could buy the soy-free feed, which would probably be cheaper to ship than the soy-free eggs.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:11 PM

I live in Columbus, OH in a residential area. To keep chickens here, one must get notarized statements from one's neighbors, have a waste disposal plan, and a coop that has been certified by local health inspectors. I travel a lot for work, so that's a consideration, too; but the bureaucratic red tape on this is just too much.

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on January 18, 2013
at 05:57 PM

I know these are old postings, but I'm here, in Ravenna, Ohio. No soy anywhere on the farm. period. Non-GMO other items in feed: oats, peas, and small amount of corn, plus supplements.

Karin Bergener. www.limeridgefarmohio.com

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on May 31, 2012
at 07:21 AM

Someone else mentioned Chino Valley Ranchers, and I see that they sell a Soy Free Egg product that they've listed on their website.

http://www.chinovalleyranchers.com/our_eggs_soy_free_organic.asp

When I search on retailers in my area, I see that Wholefoods carries them, at least in San Francisco

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