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How do you feed your pets (cats, dogs, birds, etc)?

Answered on December 09, 2014
Created July 25, 2012 at 12:11 AM

I'm going to veterinary school, and I do not believe in grains since my total paleo success. The problems must be amplified for dogs/cats.

Lately (as I'm a veterinary technician now!), I hear the vet refer to a cat who vomits, has sores in it's mouth, dandruff, otitis, dermatitis, and diarrhea as having a "weird presentation of herpes virus", and I find myself yelling FOOD ALLERGY! (Not that I've every voiced my opinion over the veterinarian yet! That won't happen until I am a veterinarian.

What is your routine? What types of symptoms have you seen in your own pets?

7dab2d8c97e44d8d0c298e5c9d5d75bc

(641)

on October 01, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Hey, I'm the same person as celiac-girl, except I lost contact on here for a while! I just wanted to provide a new resource www.catinfo.org! Thank you! -Kara

C0c839648b31512515daaffe8e4e9ad1

(468)

on August 04, 2012
at 01:00 AM

They can't eat those live worms you can buy for fish?

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 26, 2012
at 01:09 PM

Nice, and oh that's great on the nature's domain! I didn't know that!

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

(605)

on July 26, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Yes, because in the wild, they would have eaten the stomach contents of their prey. So it's better to feed them cooked or partially cooked veggies, as the stomach contents of their ancestors' prey would have been partially digested. ie. Raw veggies not so good for them.

A913bf93cf3bb8351481414d1218c441

(170)

on July 25, 2012
at 04:56 PM

Good to know, thanks :) That's great since I'm always looking for ways to cut costs

707342e3cb97e0fc088917919a154b8a

(1657)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Acana does NOT contain the preservatives mentioned in that article-- that's one of the main reasons we chose it (but thanks for the information!)

57bef671ea7e05631c9fa56f708bcaa9

(258)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:05 PM

Our dog has been mostly fed this way his whole life, but when he was a young pup he had TERRIBLE gas. Now he has none. We include the pumpkin/sweet potato in his diet because his poop is just too firm otherwise, and he struggles. Prior to being fed raw, the cats were horrible messes. One was severely obese, one was underweight, and both had terrible, screaming-in-the-litter-box IBS issues. Now they are both healthy weights and have no more trouble in the litter box (which btw smells way better, too)

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on July 25, 2012
at 01:50 PM

Another vote for Acana. Its grain free, really stinky and the dogs love it.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:20 PM

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/01/03/fish-as-a-protein-source.aspx http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/02/20/farmed-salmon-in-pet-food-is-it-safe/

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:42 AM

Thank you very much! Sometimes I think I had to have health problems all my life because it was going to mean something, and I think this is what it means. I don't even seriously believe in conventional veterinary medicine, but it'll be my path into avian/exotic/holistic medicine! Thank you all for sharing your experiences. The more the better- It truly helps me learn!

A08b210e4da7e69cd792bddc1f4aae4b

(1031)

on July 25, 2012
at 11:41 AM

Well, will have to see, it's only been a couple of weeks. The prescription food certainly helped, i.e. much less of the kibble type dried food and more tinned meat.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:40 AM

Yes, please elaborate!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:38 AM

Wow! Great! That's an awesome improvement!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:37 AM

Dogs naturally will eat SOME vegetables (you've probably seen your dog out eating grass. I feel it's definitely necessary to feed some veggies!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:35 AM

WOW! What a story!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:35 AM

It got rid of reverse sneezing?

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:34 AM

Actually with Guinea pigs, you don't even need to feed pellets. Remember- a lot of timothy hay, fresh veggies/fruits, and a vitamin C supplement to prevent scurvy. My main interest is avian/exotic medicine, and what you get on pellet is simply a fat guinea pig. Anyways, you can contact your vet and they'll usually say pellets are not a necessary food for guinea pigs!

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

(605)

on July 25, 2012
at 05:17 AM

@Sleepyhouse22 Why is fish dangerous for dogs? Can you elaborate?

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:26 AM

We avoid any foods containing fish. It can be the most dangerous to give your dogs.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:25 AM

We avoid any foods contained fish. It can be the most dangerous to give your dogs.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:23 AM

It's definitely all grain free and a very good quality food. We tried switching to Orijen but it made them sick, apparently from too much protein. If you read the ingredients on the TOTW bag, you'd be VERY pleased. Hope that helps :)

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:34 AM

And BTW, my vet tried to counsel me on the horrors of raw 8 years ago. She is now under the guidance of a vet oncologist learning to feed raw. Keep it simple! Don't think too much. Mother nature knows best. And congrats on your future!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:34 AM

That's very interesting! :) Sounds like they're very healthy pets, all of them!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Gotcha! No, that's great!

Medium avatar

(4878)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Read Pottenger's Cats, Dr Tom Lonsdale, Dogtor J, http://www.rawfedcats.org/practicalguide.htm, etc. READ IT ALL! It will be confusing to start, but you'll find the patterns within the knowledge. Best of luck!

707342e3cb97e0fc088917919a154b8a

(1657)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:27 AM

It's one of the least expensive grain free foods but it's not cheap at $60 for 30lbs (the least expensive grain free is Taste of the Wild, but we switched to Acana after Taste of the Wild was recalled and my dogs like this food MUCH more) Much like how I consider the expense of my (human) family's food-- I'd rather pay more at the store for better quality food than pay at the vet for feeding my dogs as sub-par diet (most food is like Doritos for dogs-- it's TOTAL crap!)

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:20 AM

Awesome! They are some very spoiled pups! Is it super expensive?

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:19 AM

I'm learning slowly but surely! I'm trying to get all the information! Thank you! I've read studies (of course by biased companies) saying that raw food diets were no better, not that I believe it!

4b05d725a8332e8e917a4ca58b6e8a1e

(1239)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:12 AM

All of the Taste of the Wild I've ever seen have been grain free. If you're going to use processed dog food, I think it's one of the better choices out there.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:04 AM

I've heard that before! Taste of the wild seems to be a great food! Thanks for the input. I'm taking notes! It's not quite grain free, right?

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Oh that's great! We're getting a Trader Joe's here in NH soon!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Absolutely! I was just curious as to what people were feeding! I totally agree! That's awesome! I'm glad your cats are doing well!

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363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

(4642)

on July 25, 2012
at 11:38 PM

I have two rescued kittens (10 and 6 months) and I weaned them off their mix of wet/dry food from the shelter within a few weeks and they currently feed on whole adult mice, sometimes baby quails and rats. I buy bulk frozen critters from rodentpro.com. They are the best source I have found, since local pet stores' prices are not as good. My kitties are super healthy and happy, they have the silkiest coats, and their litter box only smells a bit when I run low and have have to ration their mice and supplement their diet with Primal Grain Free kibble. It also makes them thicken up (the kibble), but they get more sleek as soon as the amount of mice increases. They now eat whole hairless adult mice... I wish they would like petburger, but they just don't. I thaw them in a plastic bag in a bowl of warm water to "body temperature" and they go nuts for them.

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707342e3cb97e0fc088917919a154b8a

on July 25, 2012
at 02:08 AM

My pups (German Shepherd and Siberian Husky) are grain free, they went Paleo when the rest of us did ;)

We feed them Acana Pacifica, it's grain free-- it's stinky (it's made from wild caught fish) but they LOVE it. My dogs' coats look amazing and they have boundless energy.

707342e3cb97e0fc088917919a154b8a

(1657)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:27 AM

It's one of the least expensive grain free foods but it's not cheap at $60 for 30lbs (the least expensive grain free is Taste of the Wild, but we switched to Acana after Taste of the Wild was recalled and my dogs like this food MUCH more) Much like how I consider the expense of my (human) family's food-- I'd rather pay more at the store for better quality food than pay at the vet for feeding my dogs as sub-par diet (most food is like Doritos for dogs-- it's TOTAL crap!)

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:25 AM

We avoid any foods contained fish. It can be the most dangerous to give your dogs.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Gotcha! No, that's great!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:20 AM

Awesome! They are some very spoiled pups! Is it super expensive?

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:26 AM

We avoid any foods containing fish. It can be the most dangerous to give your dogs.

474ae29b80569199c6589e879e6cd7d1

on July 25, 2012
at 01:50 PM

Another vote for Acana. Its grain free, really stinky and the dogs love it.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:40 AM

Yes, please elaborate!

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:20 PM

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/01/03/fish-as-a-protein-source.aspx http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/02/20/farmed-salmon-in-pet-food-is-it-safe/

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

(605)

on July 25, 2012
at 05:17 AM

@Sleepyhouse22 Why is fish dangerous for dogs? Can you elaborate?

707342e3cb97e0fc088917919a154b8a

(1657)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Acana does NOT contain the preservatives mentioned in that article-- that's one of the main reasons we chose it (but thanks for the information!)

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7dab2d8c97e44d8d0c298e5c9d5d75bc

(641)

on October 01, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Hey, I'm the same person as celiac-girl, except I lost contact on here for a while! I just wanted to provide a new resource www.catinfo.org! Thank you!

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Af2662fc82df87952abb3fdf16b20aa4

(410)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:42 PM

My budgie gets a mix of seeds and fresh food. He doesn't seem to like red foods but he likes his broccoli, spinach, herbs and cabbage. He gets a berry every few days as a treat and plays football in the bottom of his cage when I push a pea through.

If I'm honest though, I've never seen him attack anything with as much tenacity as he does my jewellery ;)

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Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

on July 25, 2012
at 05:41 AM

Our 1st pup was itchy all over, especially around her gums, directly after eating. I added sardines to her dry food and saw some improvement, but not enough. Started Googling and found BARF. Switched to 100% natural and she was cured. Our 2nd pup came from a breeder who was already feeding in line with BARF. I buy raw beef directly from a pet food supplier that supplies to greyhound kennels etc. I'll usually add a spoon of cooked rice or veggies, whatever is lying around in the fridge, as I find their stools just a bit too soft if they are eating 100% meat. Bones occasionally. Sometimes a few sardines thrown in with the beef.

They always get top marks at the vet.

I can't understand people who think runny, soft and stinky poos are normal or healthy! I don't know what it's like in the US, but here in Australia we have to pick up our dog poo, so it's even more important to me that our dogs' poo is firm-ish and not too smelly, makes picking it up a lot easier.

Funnily enough, I was learning all this about diet for our dogs, but never thought to apply the same thinking to myself! Not until I learned about Paleo, from a completely separate source, did I put two and two together... duh! If dogs do better on a biologically appropriate diet.... we will too!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:37 AM

Dogs naturally will eat SOME vegetables (you've probably seen your dog out eating grass. I feel it's definitely necessary to feed some veggies!

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

(605)

on July 26, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Yes, because in the wild, they would have eaten the stomach contents of their prey. So it's better to feed them cooked or partially cooked veggies, as the stomach contents of their ancestors' prey would have been partially digested. ie. Raw veggies not so good for them.

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A08b210e4da7e69cd792bddc1f4aae4b

(1031)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:43 AM

We're in the process of transitioning our boy (7 year old greyhound, 40kg) on to a BARF diet and he's loving it! We are super lucky that there is a local company in Melbourne that delivers BARF food; really good quality and lots of variety. He was originally on dry and tinned food, we had to put him on a 'prescription' diet because of reverse sneezing (I kid you not). I'm hoping that when he's fully on the BARF food he'll have no more symptoms. It's a joy to see a dog truly enjoying his meals!

A08b210e4da7e69cd792bddc1f4aae4b

(1031)

on July 25, 2012
at 11:41 AM

Well, will have to see, it's only been a couple of weeks. The prescription food certainly helped, i.e. much less of the kibble type dried food and more tinned meat.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:35 AM

It got rid of reverse sneezing?

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4b05d725a8332e8e917a4ca58b6e8a1e

(1239)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:19 AM

Our dogs are on a combination raw diet and dry food (Taste of the Wild) diet. We travel/camp so much that it's just not always convenient to feed them 100% raw. They do beautifully on it!

Our cats are probably the most paleo of all. They get a great deal of their food by catching it. We do supplement them with a bit of dry food (also Taste of the Wild) and raw poultry, but they are true hunters and prefer the fresh meat.

The chickens get a corn and soy free mash, leftover fruits/vegetables, and all of the creepy crawlies they can catch in the yard. I've even seen them chase the cats away from a mouse and devour it. Little T-Rexes.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:34 AM

That's very interesting! :) Sounds like they're very healthy pets, all of them!

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(4878)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Prey Model Raw for +10 years...and my vet has finally converted to raw, since her dog has now been diagnosed with cancer.

If you plan to be a raw feeder, please read all the philosophies. I've learned so much about keeping my boy healthy from studying evolutionary nutrition.

And given the AVMA's new political move regarding feeding raw, I'd say stick to your gut as your clients will be MUCH more loyal to a vet who sincerely wants the best for them.

EDITED to add: We recently let our dog go, probably due to a spinal cancer as the decline was shockingly quick. In the 4 day process to try to figure out what was wrong, we also discovered that he was "at least 15". I'd aged him at about 13, having had him for 7 years, as he was graying when he arrived. Given his vet kept arguing that he was 9ish, he looked DAMN good for his age, especially since he was probably 50% Boxer. To have Boxer genes last this long is almost unheard of as they are notoriously attacked by cancer during midlife.

I would not be surprised if his ketogenic, heavy in Omega 3s, all raw diet was responsible for keeping him alive for so long.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 11:42 AM

Thank you very much! Sometimes I think I had to have health problems all my life because it was going to mean something, and I think this is what it means. I don't even seriously believe in conventional veterinary medicine, but it'll be my path into avian/exotic/holistic medicine! Thank you all for sharing your experiences. The more the better- It truly helps me learn!

Medium avatar

(4878)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Read Pottenger's Cats, Dr Tom Lonsdale, Dogtor J, http://www.rawfedcats.org/practicalguide.htm, etc. READ IT ALL! It will be confusing to start, but you'll find the patterns within the knowledge. Best of luck!

Medium avatar

(4878)

on July 25, 2012
at 02:34 AM

And BTW, my vet tried to counsel me on the horrors of raw 8 years ago. She is now under the guidance of a vet oncologist learning to feed raw. Keep it simple! Don't think too much. Mother nature knows best. And congrats on your future!

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:19 AM

I'm learning slowly but surely! I'm trying to get all the information! Thank you! I've read studies (of course by biased companies) saying that raw food diets were no better, not that I believe it!

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on July 25, 2012
at 12:51 AM

Trader Joe's sells high quality canned cat food for around 70 cents a can.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 25, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Oh that's great! We're getting a Trader Joe's here in NH soon!

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on December 09, 2014
at 09:22 PM

I was able to cure my cat's asthma through a paleo-appropriate diet and some "supplementation". She developed asthma after 1 1/2 years on the Instinct Raw pellets. After several rounds of prednisolone I knew I had to fix my lady's health naturally. I applied my knowledge from my own gut healing journey and realized that her diet had been too low in carbohydrates for too long, which caused me health problems in the past as well. My cat really seemed to crave carbs. I even caught her eating a rotten acorn squash left on the vine in my neighbor's garden! 

So I started giving her pumpkin with her paleo pellets. She loved it and she didn't beg for carbs any longer. Plus, the soluble fiber in the pumpkin fed her gut flora, which further lowered her inflammation. Next I decided to de-inflame her further with a whole food omega 3 "supplement". I searched on the internet and found ground krill to add to her food. It is stinky and orange and she loves it. These two steps, in combination with rotating the flavor of her food every couple of weeks have worked like a charm.

My cat hasn't had an asthma attack in months!

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on December 09, 2014
at 04:56 AM

I really only know much about cats but I know they are even more exclusively carnivores than dogs are.  I think some dogs dig for roots and such in the wild occasionally, though they are also mostly meat eaters.  Cats don't eat any plants but grass, which helps them throw up hairballs mostly.  My 3 cats are on Budget Grocery Store Kitten Paleo, which consists of almost entirely canned meat food, of the cheapest variety I can find.  I can't afford to get them the very best quality of foods, so I settle for making this their staple rather than dry food.  The only stipulation I make when buying the can food is no wheat flour, which is usually in the kind that has strips or cubes of formed meat in gravy.  They won't eat very much can food at a time so I just give them a spoonful each, for several feedings per day.  And from a non-plastic bowl.  This way they lick their plates clean and don't leave the meat out to get crusty so they can refuse to eat it. Despite this can food being factory farm leftovers, kittens still seem relatively healthy - shiny sleek fur, healthy weight, active & social, etc.  I also think it makes their poops smaller when they eat more meat and less kitten cereal (dry food).

I do keep kitten cereal around but I won't give them more than 1/2 cup scoop between the 3 of them per day.  And it is non corn, wheat, and soy.  I realized some of the more holistic formulas which incorporate non-grain plant material like berry powder and kale for antioxidants and such, may be mildly beneficial despite not really being in their diet, so I'm ok with a little of that in the dry food.  Dry food is more a treat though, I use it for rewards sometimes.  It's also necessary for if I'm going to be gone from the house for a long time.  From what I've read the main problems with dry food aside from cats being more likely to have an allergy to grains, is too many carbs, not enough water!  Cats have a really low thirst drive and they're supposed to get their water from the animals they eat, mostly.  I'm also planning to make a puzzle feeder to put dry food in so they have to work to get it, which is good for exercise/stimulation.  I already make them compete when eating the dry food, which I feel is good for their socialization. 

Some Paleo kitchen scraps which I think are good occasional snacks for cats (and probably dogs) are: bone broth, leftover bone material that didn't dissolve in the broth, turkey/chicken organs if you don't want to eat them, fish oil, other leftover fats.  I myself can deal with certain grains more including fresh corn, and so I've used leftover corn husks to make toy corn monsters for them to attack.  They never play with the storebought toys anyway, haha.

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on August 03, 2012
at 07:01 PM

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7dab2d8c97e44d8d0c298e5c9d5d75bc

(641)

on October 01, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Hey, I'm the same person as celiac-girl, except I lost contact on here for a while! I just wanted to provide a new resource www.catinfo.org! Thank you! -Kara

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Fe535c4994ac6176f76e1ff6d29eb08a

on July 26, 2012
at 04:25 AM

I feed my rescue mutt a grain free diet mix of dry (Nature's Domain - which is Taste of the Wild rebranded for Costco) and wet food, plus a mashed up hard boiled egg.

The trick I have found is that I feed her out of Kongs. The wet food makes it all packable, so I mix it up in the morning, feed her the fresh Kong in the morning and put the other one in the freezer. Instead of the mad dash that is most dogs feeding time, she actually has to take her time with it, which keeps both her brain going, and burns off a little energy as well. She is still a puppy and needs a couple hours of running a day so anything that keep her going is good for me. Plus at night, the frozen Kong takes her about an hour to get through, which is time I can use for my own stuff and not have to worry about entertaining her.

Oh, and I keep a bag of either chicken or duck jerky for treats, and a bag of those peeled baby carrots, we both like snacking on those.

3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 26, 2012
at 01:09 PM

Nice, and oh that's great on the nature's domain! I didn't know that!

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3a0723afbae9bf69ffa12136a58e99cd

on July 26, 2012
at 03:14 AM

Such great results from everyone! I love hearing about it!

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:52 AM

My dog has been Primal long before I have! Every time I peel a veg (potato, carrot, apple), chop a stalk (broccoli), or trim a stem (kale, beet greens) I put into a zip bag and freeze. Every week I crock pot poultry, liver, beef or lamb (whatever my local butcher has). I take everything and mix together for 2 small feedings each day. I will bring it to work if I work late (beast goes to work w me). It's interesting when my clients see how well my dog eats! Generally, I do not feed my dog what I wouldn't eat.

Paleo Detroit It costs me $5- average a week, and about 20 min of my time. Well worth it! What makes me laugh are tv commercials that show a dog frolicking thru a field and actual food getting tossed into a bowl. The final shot is an unidentifyable soy, wheat, greasy goo kernel in the bowl for just $49- a bag. Basically, I never run out of dog food! Buttery sweet potatoes are a super treat (ok, for both).

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:33 AM

We used to feed our dogs food with grains in it, or even grain-based. When we switched our dogs to Taste of the Wild High Prairie, their health improved, they act younger, and their stools are better formed.

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:22 AM

I feed my two big dogs grain-free as well (Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream) and make sure that their training treats are grain-free also. I like Zuke's Salmon formula but it does contain barley but compared to most dog treats it's pretty innocuous. They are super duper healthy and have excellent coats so I'm not changing a thing.

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on July 25, 2012
at 11:24 PM

I feed my cats Blue Wilderness (or, Taste of the Wild), grain free, no byproducts. This diet does contain peas, but better this than grains. I am away often on weekends, and cannot afford to board them all that time, so they can get meat and NO peas. I supplement them with the chicken breast meat from the whole chickens I buy for myself. (Yep, I am one of the weird ones who totally prefers dark meat..)

Not the best, but I do what I can do for them.

The bettas get betta pellets. No way around that one.

C0c839648b31512515daaffe8e4e9ad1

(468)

on August 04, 2012
at 01:00 AM

They can't eat those live worms you can buy for fish?

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on July 25, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Our pups get Origin Dog Food (grain free, relatively low carbohydrate) wild fish, free range turkey and chicken and eggs. They love it, but also get pieces of raw beef, eggs, carrots and pork. Never gone to the vet except by the breeder. Healthier for it!

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on July 25, 2012
at 01:55 PM

They eat a raw diet, but we don't have enough time or money to feed them solely in parts. We feed them whole ground chicken or cow from Hare Today. For the cats we supplement occasionally (taurine for sure) + egg yolks, and some sardines. The dog gets egg yolks, sardines, and canned pumpkin or cooked sweet potato. They all get the occasional treat of raw meaty bones (chicken backs and necks, mostly) to work out their jaws and clean their teeth. They are all very healthy.

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:05 PM

Our dog has been mostly fed this way his whole life, but when he was a young pup he had TERRIBLE gas. Now he has none. We include the pumpkin/sweet potato in his diet because his poop is just too firm otherwise, and he struggles. Prior to being fed raw, the cats were horrible messes. One was severely obese, one was underweight, and both had terrible, screaming-in-the-litter-box IBS issues. Now they are both healthy weights and have no more trouble in the litter box (which btw smells way better, too)

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on July 25, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Sadly, I'm prohibited from owning pets by my rental contract, but I have a colleague at work who had a problem with one of her cats which sounds eerily similar to the one you describe.

She was advised by the vet to put the cat on a very expensive, 'scientifically formulated' (grain containing) dried food formula. Unfortunately, this diet made the poor moggie's issues worse. My colleague decided to ignore the vet's advice (as it clearly wasn't working) and put the cat on a diet of chicken, turkey, fish and boiled white rice.

To cut a long story short, the cat's health improved dramatically. They kept the cat on this diet and it lived to a ripe old age. My colleague suspects that the cat was allergic to wheat/gluten as the animal would occasionally steal a scrap of toast or bread and then be violently ill.

It's crazy how many commercial brands of dog and cat food out there contain grains. Grains are bird food! ;-) I'm sure that's one of the reasons why these animals need so many trips to the vet's.

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on July 25, 2012
at 08:46 AM

The cats around my house eat radcat raw food about half the time, and various extra raw meat the rest of the time. We occasionally give them wellness canned food as well. We have a kitten who is growing quite large, and a young cat,who has yet to have any health problems. They love their raw meat, and the coats have got so much softer. The litter boxed also smell much better,which was an added bonus.

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on July 25, 2012
at 11:38 AM

Wow! Great! That's an awesome improvement!

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on July 25, 2012
at 03:58 AM

Our canine is a 70 lb Rott mix, almost 10 years old. We feed prey model raw. Going raw probably added years to her life. Her thyroid literally did self repair. She's off thyroid now, off the Sulfasalazine, off the Benadryl during allergy season. The 8,937 (expensively diagnosed and treated) ear infections just came to a screeching halt... And we NEVER fed cheap kibble. Even moving to single protein allergy kibble didn't do the trick. Raw did. Her add ons include the occasional spoonful of coconut oil, fish oil pills, and raw eggs. And compared to other people's older big dogs, she moves like a ballet dancer. People never guess that she's actually an elderly creature.

Edited to add the infuriating symptom - For years it worried me! She used to get small abscesses on her skin, typically along her top line. I'd really only find them once they broke. They were gross and they happened for years. And the lazy vets were wrong. They weren't from a flea allergy. (and I've seen ONE flea on her in nine years in a temperate climate - she's extraordinarily untasty, I guess) After going raw, they just stopped completely.

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on July 25, 2012
at 11:35 AM

WOW! What a story!

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on July 25, 2012
at 03:34 AM

My mini poodle gets a grain free food, I think we have nature's recipe right now, plus bits of whatever meat and veggies I'm eating and raw bones when available. She has food allergies to corn and grain fed beef, but does just fine with grass fed. Just today someone in the park was commenting on how fast and agile she is for such a small dog, and they couldn't believe she's about to be 10 years old :) My guinea pigs get oxbow essentials food, kaytee hay, plus lots of veggies and the occasional piece of fruit. I wish there was a gluten free guinea pig food (I'm celiac), but oxbow is one of the few without artificial colors and junk, so I just make sure to wash my hands really well after feeding/handling them and I don't let them lick my face. Before I eliminated gluten, I used "swheat scoop" litter (made from wheat) in their litter box, and I really liked it, but after eliminating gluten from my diet, just the bit of dust from pouring it would irritate me, so I quit using it and I have yet to find a litter I like as much.

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:56 PM

Good to know, thanks :) That's great since I'm always looking for ways to cut costs

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on July 25, 2012
at 11:34 AM

Actually with Guinea pigs, you don't even need to feed pellets. Remember- a lot of timothy hay, fresh veggies/fruits, and a vitamin C supplement to prevent scurvy. My main interest is avian/exotic medicine, and what you get on pellet is simply a fat guinea pig. Anyways, you can contact your vet and they'll usually say pellets are not a necessary food for guinea pigs!

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:21 AM

Have you ever used "Honest Kitchen" products that are grain free? It looks pretty interesting!

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on July 25, 2012
at 12:35 AM

I'm sure grains are responsible for the upsurge in diabetes, IBD, obesity etc. in cats. My cats showed most of these symptoms when on grains (vomits, dandruff, dermatitis, and diarrhea). Now they are all grain-free and 16, 16 & 20 yrs old.

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Absolutely! I was just curious as to what people were feeding! I totally agree! That's awesome! I'm glad your cats are doing well!

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on July 25, 2012
at 12:22 AM

We feed our dogs Taste of the Wild along with 1/2 a chicken breast a day. Our German Shepherd also gets a scoop of organic pumpkin with his dinner.

Ever since feeding them Taste of the Wild, their coats improved tremendously, my English Bulldog doesn't get a chocolate fountain squirting out his butt each month, etc like he did from Royal Canin. The pumpkin is great for our shepherd's stomach and the chicken breast is for extra nutrients and some real, clean food.

My friend has a Shepherd from the same litter. They were feeding him complete crap, and he was constantly sick, had diarrhea, was underweight, and had BAD gas. They switched him to TOTW, and it fixed him instantly. Now he is almost up to his recommended weight and filling out nicely.

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:04 AM

I've heard that before! Taste of the wild seems to be a great food! Thanks for the input. I'm taking notes! It's not quite grain free, right?

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:12 AM

All of the Taste of the Wild I've ever seen have been grain free. If you're going to use processed dog food, I think it's one of the better choices out there.

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on July 25, 2012
at 03:23 AM

It's definitely all grain free and a very good quality food. We tried switching to Orijen but it made them sick, apparently from too much protein. If you read the ingredients on the TOTW bag, you'd be VERY pleased. Hope that helps :)

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