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Dry throat from food allergies or adrenal function??

Commented on February 19, 2014
Created February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I am wondering if anyone has experienced a dry throat due to food allergies or possible adrenal function? I have been to numerous doctors, had a scope, and there are not any answers. I have recently cut out gluten, but have not gone completely Paleo.... After 5+ years, I am still struggling to find out why my throat is constantly dry with an insatiable thirst....

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on February 19, 2014
at 05:55 AM

If you've been low-carbing, it might just show up as low T3. But how it will progress is anybody's guess. You might become subclinically hypothyroid before becoming fully hypo. Could be Raynaud's and hypo-T3 syndrome. A conventional endo will not treat unless your TSH moves out of the ref range and T4 is low. A naturopath might but going on T3 med is not always the answer. Dry skin could result from low T3 but also other issues. Other hypo symptoms might overlap with hormone issues. If you have dry mouth, eyes and a problem swallowing, ask for a rheumatologist referral.

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on February 18, 2014
at 04:47 PM

Beth, that's the unfortunate result most Paleo dieters arrive at. Strict hypocaloric/low carb diets adversely affect your adreneals and wreak havoc on your hormones. But there is a lagtime of 6-24 months so you will not be on your toes while losing weight and feeling exhilarated. Cold extremeties are usually low T3 and Raynaud's. If Raynaud's, your issue could multiply when you start developing autoimmune issues. In the beginning you can reverse those symptoms by upping carbs and calories. But after a while, if Raynaud's sets in, it's very hard to get rid of cold extremeties.

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on February 18, 2014
at 04:39 PM

Rybin, those are immune issues. You're being led astray by people who share your symptoms to some degree but do not understand the underlying pathology. Those adrenal issues usually surface after 6-24 months of strict Paleo. By all means, try anything that will allay cold extremeties. But you may have Raynaud's or hypothyroidism and that greatly increases the likelihood of autoimmunity. Tell your rheumatologist that you think you have Raynaud's and it may be in conjunction with throat-related dry-out symptoms. Mention Sjogren's/CREST. She might take you more seriously this time.

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on February 18, 2014
at 04:32 PM

That's exactly what I suspected. Your doc probably found that ANA is + but failed to do further testing. Ask her if she tested you for Sjogren's, early Scleroderma or CREST. Unless she's on the ball, she probably missed them. These autoimmune issues have distinct throat-related dry out symptoms, although they're among many so they fail to zero in. Cortisol is correlated with when you took it; there should be different reference ranges for AM, PM, noon, etc. but most labs don't bother. If you've been low-carbing, your cortisol will be high whether AM/PM. That's the unfortunate truth.

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on February 18, 2014
at 12:59 PM

I was afraid to eat, because after reading too much there seemed to be few safe options. So I'd have coffee w/heavy cream (and sometimes coconut oil) for breakfast, meat for lunch, and meat and veg for dinner (like lettuce wraps) or soup. Now I'm eating freely, including fast food (I KNOW) and pretzels and ice cream and pizza. I know it sounds crazy. But my blood sugar is more stable now and I'm feeling clearer and more optimistic and food is not a rock on my stomach. I was spending a lot of time in bed while on Paleo, cold and tired and sick. I've read similar stories from others.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 18, 2014
at 07:46 AM

How much carbs and calories had you been consuming ? And what sources of sugar and starch do you use ?

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 17, 2014
at 08:59 PM

Tried GLA for cold hands and feet ? Gamma linolenic acid is an omega-6 fatty acid that is found in evening primrose oil, hemp seeds and other sources and it increases prostacyclins which is decreased with omega-3s, and prostacyclins increase circulation in hands and feet and thus helps with the cold. In my opinion best options for GLA are EPO capsules, fresh EPO oil with added antioxidants to extend its freshness and hemp seeds and maybe hemp hearts. I use hemp seeds myself and they help for cold hands and feet.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 17, 2014
at 08:05 PM

I highly recommend Sarah Ballantyne's autoimmune protocol. She recently released The Paleo Approach: Reverse Autoimmune Disease and Heal Your Body and it's available for electronic e-book readers also. I don't have the time to read it yet but it must be one of the best health books of all time. You can start the protocol without the book by reading it on thepaleomom.com, though it may be better to read the book also. There are messages of people in remission with the protocol alone, without meds and I don't think that's a marketing scam.

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on February 16, 2014
at 08:18 PM

It's not easy to diagnose autoimmune issues. If your symptoms aren't overt, there is no way to tell. Tell me what you've tested. These food allergies and dry-out symptoms that arise when Paleoing are usually immune-related. Your cortisol is also meaningless unless it was a sequential saliva test. That carb reefed isn't going to work unless you give it the time of the day. It's your health. Do you really think it's likely that' you've been dehydrated for 5 years? I'd look past incidental reasons and start looking into pathogenic etiology if serious.

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on February 16, 2014
at 03:58 AM

Dr. Kruse? Seriously, Eugenia, would you buy a used car from him? This guy has jumped on cold thermogenesis, EMF and now Vitamin E. He doesn't even understand leptin correctly and ripped off the whole idea from a book that came out 11 years ago.

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on February 18, 2014
at 09:12 PM

Whoever mentioned hypothyroidism might be on the right track. When I searched the symptoms - all defined me! Feeling tired, weak, depressed - dry skin - can't stand the cold - constipation - not being able to think clearly - irregular menstrual periods - I HAVE THEM ALL!! However, whenever tested, my levels are always in the normal range according to doctors. I have had it tested for several years, but not in the past year. I am also wondering if my thyroid might be inflamed. When I lay down in bed at night, my throat gets dry and I feel like I have something in my throat. That is what got me concerned years ago because I always needed water by the bedside and never needed it before. The endocrinologist is the one doctor that I have not been too. A naturopath suggested to me that most doctors don't consider thyroid levels to be abnormal, when in fact they very well could be. After all of this discussion with several of you (thank you), maybe I need to investigate the thyroid further. My mother has nodules on hers and takes daily medicine, and my paternal grandmother had thyroid issues as well. It just has to be something!

Medium avatar

on February 19, 2014
at 05:55 AM

If you've been low-carbing, it might just show up as low T3. But how it will progress is anybody's guess. You might become subclinically hypothyroid before becoming fully hypo. Could be Raynaud's and hypo-T3 syndrome. A conventional endo will not treat unless your TSH moves out of the ref range and T4 is low. A naturopath might but going on T3 med is not always the answer. Dry skin could result from low T3 but also other issues. Other hypo symptoms might overlap with hormone issues. If you have dry mouth, eyes and a problem swallowing, ask for a rheumatologist referral.

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on February 17, 2014
at 09:02 PM

I have been reading some stuff that has gotten my hands and feet warm this past week. It's quite counter-intuitive, but I think is exactly what my depleted adrenals needed. Basically, it's getting this five things:

salt

sugar

sleep

sun

starch

...as if you're giving yourself a vacation. My temperature is normal today for the first time in...years? I've been giving myself what I crave for the past week.

I've been starving myself with paleo, and I think an imbalance in any diet is dangerous.

Medium avatar

on February 18, 2014
at 04:47 PM

Beth, that's the unfortunate result most Paleo dieters arrive at. Strict hypocaloric/low carb diets adversely affect your adreneals and wreak havoc on your hormones. But there is a lagtime of 6-24 months so you will not be on your toes while losing weight and feeling exhilarated. Cold extremeties are usually low T3 and Raynaud's. If Raynaud's, your issue could multiply when you start developing autoimmune issues. In the beginning you can reverse those symptoms by upping carbs and calories. But after a while, if Raynaud's sets in, it's very hard to get rid of cold extremeties.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 18, 2014
at 07:46 AM

How much carbs and calories had you been consuming ? And what sources of sugar and starch do you use ?

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on February 17, 2014
at 08:52 PM

Yes - I live in the North and always have severe cold hands and feet. I am always cold. My temperature always runs below 98.6. I crave heat!! I have low blood pressure. I should note too, that when I eat salty foods, it makes me even more thirsty right away! Milk and melted cheese give me bad stomach aches, but other dairy products can be OK. My previous doctor thought that it could be stress.... I was on Lexapro for a long time, but that had no effect... The list goes on and on... I swear, I have explored most options.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 17, 2014
at 08:59 PM

Tried GLA for cold hands and feet ? Gamma linolenic acid is an omega-6 fatty acid that is found in evening primrose oil, hemp seeds and other sources and it increases prostacyclins which is decreased with omega-3s, and prostacyclins increase circulation in hands and feet and thus helps with the cold. In my opinion best options for GLA are EPO capsules, fresh EPO oil with added antioxidants to extend its freshness and hemp seeds and maybe hemp hearts. I use hemp seeds myself and they help for cold hands and feet.

Medium avatar

on February 18, 2014
at 04:39 PM

Rybin, those are immune issues. You're being led astray by people who share your symptoms to some degree but do not understand the underlying pathology. Those adrenal issues usually surface after 6-24 months of strict Paleo. By all means, try anything that will allay cold extremeties. But you may have Raynaud's or hypothyroidism and that greatly increases the likelihood of autoimmunity. Tell your rheumatologist that you think you have Raynaud's and it may be in conjunction with throat-related dry-out symptoms. Mention Sjogren's/CREST. She might take you more seriously this time.

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on February 17, 2014
at 06:43 PM

I totally get this--I had a constant "thirst" that turned out to be too much water, not enough salt, etc. I have been so overhydrated for the past few years that I had very few electrolytes left, apparently. I've upped my salt and carbs and get my fluids from soups and vegetable broths, etc.

Do you have cold hands/feet?

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on February 17, 2014
at 04:23 PM

I don't know what it might be. It could be any of the things the others are saying. Or it might be that you are dehydrated from drinking too much water. If you are drinking so much water that you are washing out your electrolytes (minerals) thus not allowing your body to keep the water it needs. It very well could be that you need to add some salt and some sort of mineral supplementation to your diet and perhaps drink some non-purified water.

RO water demands minerals from the body as it goes through it for chemistry reasons.

Just an idea. I know that when I've been drinking a ton of water. I get really thirsty and I get a really dry mouth and throat. So I drink some broth and a multi-vitamin and back off the water a bit, and it straightens me out.

We are fearfully and wonderfully made--it's just strange that too much water can dehydrate you.

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on February 17, 2014
at 03:15 PM

Thyroiditis - I had blood tested at the rheumo and they found that I may be at risk for an autoimmune disease, but they could not pinpoint anything. One of the factors was positive, so to speak. I do have interstitial cystitis, so it could be pointing to that. However, my IC symptoms started many years ago, and the throat thing has been over the past 5 years or so. I tried allergy shots too. That didn't help! My general physician tested the cortisol levels with a blood test. It was not the saliva test. How does one go about getting the saliva test? I am not a doctor, so I am not fully educated on what to look for on blood tests. I just know that in the eyes of the medical profession, the blood tests do not indicate anything and my electrolyte levels always appear to be in the normal range (whatever that is). I live in Michigan and do not know where to turn for some respected natural opinions. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Medium avatar

on February 18, 2014
at 04:32 PM

That's exactly what I suspected. Your doc probably found that ANA is + but failed to do further testing. Ask her if she tested you for Sjogren's, early Scleroderma or CREST. Unless she's on the ball, she probably missed them. These autoimmune issues have distinct throat-related dry out symptoms, although they're among many so they fail to zero in. Cortisol is correlated with when you took it; there should be different reference ranges for AM, PM, noon, etc. but most labs don't bother. If you've been low-carbing, your cortisol will be high whether AM/PM. That's the unfortunate truth.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 17, 2014
at 08:05 PM

I highly recommend Sarah Ballantyne's autoimmune protocol. She recently released The Paleo Approach: Reverse Autoimmune Disease and Heal Your Body and it's available for electronic e-book readers also. I don't have the time to read it yet but it must be one of the best health books of all time. You can start the protocol without the book by reading it on thepaleomom.com, though it may be better to read the book also. There are messages of people in remission with the protocol alone, without meds and I don't think that's a marketing scam.

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on February 16, 2014
at 04:38 PM

Thyroiditis - I have been to the rheumatologist and they did not feel it was an autoimmune disease. A scope down my throat by the gastroenterologist was mute as well. I have had numerous blood tests done, and nothing shows up. I specifically had tests for my cortisol levels too. As for carbs, I just ate some quinoa and low glycemic rice, and constipation set in. If I drink alcohol, then the problem worsens dramatically. It just seems that my hydration/adrenal system is not functioning normally.... I am not a firm believer in supplements, and I just don't know where to turn.

Medium avatar

on February 16, 2014
at 08:18 PM

It's not easy to diagnose autoimmune issues. If your symptoms aren't overt, there is no way to tell. Tell me what you've tested. These food allergies and dry-out symptoms that arise when Paleoing are usually immune-related. Your cortisol is also meaningless unless it was a sequential saliva test. That carb reefed isn't going to work unless you give it the time of the day. It's your health. Do you really think it's likely that' you've been dehydrated for 5 years? I'd look past incidental reasons and start looking into pathogenic etiology if serious.

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47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on February 16, 2014
at 09:53 AM

I remember popcorn made with extra-virgin olive oil giving me dry throat.

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on February 16, 2014
at 04:01 AM

Your dry throat could be a sign of autoimmunity. If you also have dry mouth and eyes, go check your antinuclear antibodies to see if you have Sjogren's or related autoimmune issues. Alternatively, it could be related to you going to low on carbs. Dry eyes, oral and nasal cavities as well as constipation due to dry colon walls all result from insufficient amount of carbs. Do a simple experiment. Add back some starchy carbs and see if these problems go away. It will only take 2 days of adding back about 80 grams of carbs.

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on February 12, 2014
at 06:36 PM

I think it's a matter of dehydration. My throat is dry and I cough at night, when I haven't drank water for hours. According to Dr Kruse, tap water with added fluoride never quenches your thirst. So, try MORE spring water, and see if that helps.

Medium avatar

on February 16, 2014
at 03:58 AM

Dr. Kruse? Seriously, Eugenia, would you buy a used car from him? This guy has jumped on cold thermogenesis, EMF and now Vitamin E. He doesn't even understand leptin correctly and ripped off the whole idea from a book that came out 11 years ago.

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