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Ever get the feeling your drugs aren't working at all?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 13, 2011 at 6:27 AM

Ever get the feeling those drugs they are giving you aren't doing a darned thing? Maybe that's because more often then not, they aren't and now they are even admitting it! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/glaxo-chief-our-drugs-do-not-work-on-most-patients-575942.html So is this them finally coming clean and admitting the truth, or is it just them changing tactics and getting ready to start selling hoards of genetic tests instead?

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on February 13, 2011
at 08:23 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself. :D

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on February 13, 2011
at 05:28 PM

Your question asked whether drug companies were admitting these facts for the first time. That was your question. I answered, no, drug companies have always admitted these facts and they don't have any reason to conceal them. Now you say that *doctors* don't tell these things to patients. What doctors say has nothing to do with what drug companies say. Doctors are not drug companies. If you want to talk now about doctors, that's fine, let's talk about doctors, but let's also notice that we're changing the subject.

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on February 13, 2011
at 04:49 PM

Many of my friends on statins are told things by the doctors like, "You have to take this. That's what's keeping you alive." (statins). Or "YOu will get very ill if you stop." That's not really the same thing as admitting that they drugs have side effects and may not be working at all. Most people just listen to the verbal commands of doctors. They do not read package inserts. Most people are not like paleo eaters. I can try to tell them this stuff, but mostly they just tell me, "My doctor said." and that is end of argument for them.

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on February 13, 2011
at 10:09 PM

Drugs are meant to treat symptoms not really cure anything for the most part. Realising that and taking steps that actually fix something rather than covering it up and likely causing more symptoms to treat with other medications will be a much more positive step to good health.

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on February 13, 2011
at 07:10 AM

When did the drug companies ever conceal or deny this information? They often print it on the insert that comes inside the package.

If they were trying to hide these facts, the package insert was a funny place to hide them. :)

Seriously, there's no reason for them to be ashamed that any given drug works only 30 to 50 percent of the time. That's why doctors often try several drugs. 30 to 50 is a lot better than zero!

The real problem with drugs, in my opinion, is that even when they work (have their intended effect), they frequently aren't the best way to restore people to health.

Statins are an example. Even when they work (in other words, even when they make cholesterol levels lower), they have many harmful side effects, they have very little effect on heart disease, and they do not reduce overall mortality.

As an example of a package insert that gives effectiveness percentages, here's what this same company (GlaxoSmithKline) has said for years about Imitrex on the insert:

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Reference: GlaxoSmithKline. Imitrex package insert (2004).

82166cc32b6cf26de33b69f58fb583b1

on February 13, 2011
at 05:28 PM

Your question asked whether drug companies were admitting these facts for the first time. That was your question. I answered, no, drug companies have always admitted these facts and they don't have any reason to conceal them. Now you say that *doctors* don't tell these things to patients. What doctors say has nothing to do with what drug companies say. Doctors are not drug companies. If you want to talk now about doctors, that's fine, let's talk about doctors, but let's also notice that we're changing the subject.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on February 13, 2011
at 04:49 PM

Many of my friends on statins are told things by the doctors like, "You have to take this. That's what's keeping you alive." (statins). Or "YOu will get very ill if you stop." That's not really the same thing as admitting that they drugs have side effects and may not be working at all. Most people just listen to the verbal commands of doctors. They do not read package inserts. Most people are not like paleo eaters. I can try to tell them this stuff, but mostly they just tell me, "My doctor said." and that is end of argument for them.

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on February 13, 2011
at 07:48 AM

Yes, that's the magic of medicine. People Our bodies are stochastic systems - somewhat predictable - and drugs, vaccines and antibiotics work (or don't work) statistically.

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on February 13, 2011
at 08:23 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself. :D

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on February 13, 2011
at 05:25 PM

No.

I am on two medications (one I'm weening off of, under doctor care): Advair for my asthma and Paxil for my OCD.

I recently ran out of Advair and have been off it for 4 days -- my asthma is back. Advair is a great twice-daily inhaler. Unfortunately, Paleo has not yet done for my asthma what Advair has.

Paxil -- whether or not it still "works" -- still has an effect on my body. If I forget a dose, boy do I go through some serious withdrawals. This is why I'm coming up with a plan to ween off it with my doctor. It may not "work" but it still effects my body.

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