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Are Psych Drugs Safe?

Commented on September 17, 2013
Created September 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

What are your thoughts on using certain psych drugs to help a condition of social anxiety and stuttering?

I've heard of some people who have had their stuttering reduce considerably (even dissapear) using a beta blocker such as Propranolol and I'm very curious to try it out, even just for short term use.

Are there any real dangers of these kinds of drugs?

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on September 17, 2013
at 12:53 AM

It's paleo diet. A GI tract question makes sense. Off-label use of pharmaceuticals? Ehhhhhhh, that's out of place. Just voicing my "vote" that this is potentially off topic. I voted to close a lot of questions on the old site, and now that a single person can do it, I want to express my votes in another way.

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on September 16, 2013
at 10:52 PM

As someone with social anxiety and a metric butt-load of confidence, I heartily disagree that all social anxiety is caused by low self-esteem. :P It's over-diagnosed, like depression and ADHD, but chemical reactions are cause enough for social anxiety regardless of self-esteem levels.

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on September 16, 2013
at 10:41 PM

I agree there is a strong correlation between social anxiety and low self esteem.

I read from some people using the drug i mentioned that reducing their anxiety enabled them to tap into their self-confidence with a lot more ease and after some time they stopped taking the drug and their confident state of being became their new norm.

I totally understand where you're coming from with the Maxwell Maltz reference and your thoughts in general though.

Thanks for your comment.

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on September 16, 2013
at 10:37 PM

I was interested in getting a perspective on particular medical drug safety from smart, intelligent people who view health - physical, mental, emotional, etc - from an evolutionary perspective.

If someone asked about fecal transplants you probably wouldn't oppose that topic here on PaleoHacks. One could contest "what does this 'medical' procedure have to do with paleo?". ...but they don't.

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There may or may not be an underlying issue to address. In the case where there is none, medication is the long-term treatment.

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on September 16, 2013
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It's not insensitive, it's just a wee bit ignorant. The mind exists amidst the physical body (i.e. mostly in the brain), and behavioral issues can be fixed with behavioral therapy, as well as possibly including mind altering drugs. As a "previous" stutterer, behavioral therapy when I was young worked well, without the use of substances. Finally: damn the person who made the word stutter inherently onomatopoeic. Seriously - that's just mean.

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How does this relate to paleo? There's no more votes to close questions, so take this as a vote to close as off topic.

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on September 16, 2013
at 02:28 PM

In cases of mental illness; for example bipolar, depression, anxiety which rise to the level of interfering with daily activities the benefits of taking psychotropic meds far outweighs any downside. Anxiety in people who struggle with it daily is not caused by low self-esteem in many cases. While it may be over-diagnosed and meds for it over-prescribed the general definition of it being caused by low self-esteem went by the wayside years ago. Psychotropic meds are not addictive in the least except for benzodiapenes.

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on September 16, 2013
at 12:38 PM

Psych drugs work by modifying the chemistry processes within your brain. This may be necessary on a short term for people who are in severe emotional distress, but on a long term, they pose a lot of problems, including addiction, modification of brain activity, and so on (look at the HUGE list of side-effects for Propranolol).

It is actually akin to taking aspirin for back pain every day for several years: you may be succesful in hiding the pain, but the underlying issue is still there, left uncured.

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on September 16, 2013
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There may or may not be an underlying issue to address. In the case where there is none, medication is the long-term treatment.

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on September 16, 2013
at 11:55 AM

No, they're not safe.

I firmly believe social anxiety is caused by low self-esteem. I recommend you read Maxwell Malts - Psycho Cybernetics.

As for stuttering, I don't know. I'm inclined to say it might be all in your head. I'm sure someone here will call me an insensitive asshole but I'd rather be called that than a mainstream following, big pharma sponsored shit talker.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on September 16, 2013
at 02:56 PM

It's not insensitive, it's just a wee bit ignorant. The mind exists amidst the physical body (i.e. mostly in the brain), and behavioral issues can be fixed with behavioral therapy, as well as possibly including mind altering drugs. As a "previous" stutterer, behavioral therapy when I was young worked well, without the use of substances. Finally: damn the person who made the word stutter inherently onomatopoeic. Seriously - that's just mean.

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on September 16, 2013
at 10:41 PM

I agree there is a strong correlation between social anxiety and low self esteem.

I read from some people using the drug i mentioned that reducing their anxiety enabled them to tap into their self-confidence with a lot more ease and after some time they stopped taking the drug and their confident state of being became their new norm.

I totally understand where you're coming from with the Maxwell Maltz reference and your thoughts in general though.

Thanks for your comment.

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on September 16, 2013
at 10:52 PM

As someone with social anxiety and a metric butt-load of confidence, I heartily disagree that all social anxiety is caused by low self-esteem. :P It's over-diagnosed, like depression and ADHD, but chemical reactions are cause enough for social anxiety regardless of self-esteem levels.

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