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Thoughts on Dr. Mercola...

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 20, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Have any of you checked out Dr. Mercola's site? I saw some of his videos and like the msg he is trying to get across (pro-paleo, food can cure, anti-sugar and wheat). I signed up for an email subscription and ended up getting bombarded with sensationalist emails that try to get me to buy his supplements. Needless to say, I unsubscribed after a few days.

Mark Sisson sells supplements and books, but I'm glad that he doesn't overwhelm me with spam when I go on his website or in his emails.

Mercola isn't talked about much on this website, but from what I've read so far, P-Hackers don't seem to like him so much. Why? What is your opinion of Dr. Mercola in regards to his website and his message? What are his credentials and why isn't he talked about more in the paleo community?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on April 07, 2012
at 04:17 PM

More reason to think the guy is a bit slimy: http://www.bulletproofexec.com/its-official-dr-mercola-just-copied-the-bulletproof-diet/

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 22, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Vaccination is not medication, it's a prevention method. It's not treating a useless ailment, it is protecting individuals and populations. I think this conversation is not going anywhere, so I while I am glad you applied your critical eye to the science of nutrition, I'm sad that you didn't manage to apply it properly to vaccination to discover the low risk and effectiveness that prevention has over treatment-after-sickness.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on March 22, 2012
at 05:39 AM

On top of everything it gets injected with chemicals every other week.Then it is fed chix fingers and fries and given apple juice and pasteurized choco milk and treated to fast food all the time.So it grows to be a cronically sick adult,and you want me to care,no thanks.Until the government shows me they care about me I will continue "putting people @risk by not vaccinating"instead of making my son be a guinea pig for some greedy monopolist like Merck.More people die from taking medication than anything else,but nobody seems to care about that,they just continue to push it to make money

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on March 22, 2012
at 05:25 AM

People die here cause they are chronically sick.They eat crap,drink diet coke,take unnecessary meds including antidepressants.Everybody I know takes some sort of medication and is popping Advil like it's candy.They don't take care of themselves,so why should I worry about them.Pregnant women are prescribed antidepressants to prevent the baby blues and you expect healthy babies.No,I have no compassion for that.Then when the baby is born they feed him crappy formula and start rice [email protected] 4 months cause the baby"is hungry".No it isn't hungry for processed junk,it's hungry for breast milk.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:42 PM

Paralization and "associated deaths" were investigated and was completely unrelated to the Gardisol vaccination. The one girls who's mom was really upset saying that she was killed by the vaccine, had a heart defect that had been undiagnosed. Doctors were surprised she lived as long as she did with such a structural defect. Some people sue, sad as it sounds, when they think they'll make some money.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:36 PM

Also, because this makes me cringe hard when people say they didn't vaccinate their decision, I know that it's your personal choice but please a tip: don't bring your child into a retirement home or an long term care facility, please. My boyfriend's grandma passed away last year from the flu, and because children that are unvaccinated are more likely to get it (and therefore have it dormant, even if it never expresses into a full blown illness in them) it really can change lives irreversibly. Avoid newborns too, and pregnant friends. Seriously, it is more important than people think.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:33 PM

With one of the most thoroughly researched, best proven methods of prevention that is based on the model of natural herd immunity, we have managed to drastically increase our life span and decrease the number of dead and invalid children. How often do you hear of kids dying from viruses these days? Do you want that to change? No, of course not, no one does. That is why we vaccinate- for now, and for the future generation to be able to support each other and create a maximum health in society.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:31 PM

"There are countries that don't vax until 2, nobody's dying there". Okay, maybe google. We vaccinate starting at birth, and people are dying HERE. Last year we had a woman miscarry a 7 month pregnancy because of a virus she picked up from a local alternative school that is infamous for not vaccinating. My friend's baby got whooping cough and was in the hospital for months, it was a horrible experience. We are having babies die of whooping cough, vulnerable kids getting carried off by measles, and old people dying ALL THE TIME from standard influenza. It is a problem HERE.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:28 PM

To quote Seth Mnookin: "Choosing to not vaccinate your children is like choosing to drink and drive. Sure, you can do it, but it has the ability to affect everyone around you". Maybe an extreme quote, but I think it accurately illustrates the importance that people are missing- it's not just about you, and your child (though who would not want to protect their child??? that is beyond me), it's about the vulnerable members of society and protecting them. That is the big picture- if you vaccinate, not only does your chance of mortality decrease, but everyone around you does as well.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:26 PM

The concept of herd immunity is integral to vaccination. If a majority of the population is not vaccinated, then you are wasting your time and might as well give up, because the people who were going to get sick and die in the first place, are still possibly going to get sick, so aren't very well protected without a buffer around them. I do believe vaccination should be mandatory for everyone, on schedule. Otherwise, we aren't protecting the most vulnerable members of society, which we should all have a responsibility towards. Perfect prevention- again theory has been around for YEARS.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:23 PM

Big problem: targeting the immuno-suppressed does not work very well. Crash microbiology lesson: the concept of "primed" really just means "have antibodies on hand so when you do get infected, you can launch an attack immediately". The key thing, though, is your immune system HAS to be able to even launch that attack- if you are elderly, or a baby, or pregnant, or sick, even if you are vaccinated and have those antibodies on hand, if your immune system is disable and weak, the virus can multiply faster than you can defend yourself. This gets dangerous very fast.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on March 21, 2012
at 02:28 PM

I also happen to differentiate virus and bacterium,cause I read a lot and eventually want to pursue a naturopatic career.And I believe that the early vaccine researchers had the best intentions,but as with most things that has turned into a profitting business.Just like the food pyramid that's being pushed on us,eat like this so you get sick,stay sick and buy medication,brilliant if you ask me.But people don't get it,they trust their doctor100%.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 21, 2012
at 02:15 PM

Also the human body,given it's healthy,has it's own mechanisms to fight disease.So we don't need to "prime" it,but rather let it strengthen with nutrition and a supplement here and there.Just like when you get a fever you shouldn't run for the Tylenol,but let it fise so it can kill the infection,the body knows what to do.Yes,there are people that are immunocompromised,but they are the most targeted by the vaccine manufacturers,I don't understand it.Babies,pregnant women and the elderly are most encouraged to get their shots.Heck,there are countries that don't vax until 2,nobody's dying there

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on March 21, 2012
at 01:46 PM

I wonder how many males get the type of cancer that Gardasil supposedly prevents,and how many deaths there are from that particular strain.I bet not many,not enough to inject every boy.I have read about girls paralyzed after getting Gardasil,not cool.Thank god there are still religious exempts almost everywhere.Do you think vaccines should be mandatory

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 21, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I like your reasoning,but don't agree with it.Anyway,I don't know if you have children,but for a mother is very hard to make a decision,especially when nobody really knows what the right answer is.I too have thought long and hard and wondered if not vaccinating was the right choice,but watching my son thrive has convinced me that not vaccinating also works....for now.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:39 PM

And multiple injections at one time- you are literally exposed to more "toxins" as by products of daily body metabolism than a multi dose vaccination. And the virus particulate- again, you are exposed to more different viruses when you sit in the dirt than are contained in a vaccination. In terms of the body, a vaccine is like a tiny drop in the bucket, has very little effect. Small price to pay for immunity.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:36 PM

Also, they inject boys with Gardisol to add a double protection for girls AND to protect boys against penile, oral, and possibly anal cancers. This vaccine literally can stop cancer from forming- that is VERY powerful, and we all know that prevention is better than treatment. This is a vaccination that should be available to all young people who want to protect themselves and future partners from cancer.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:34 PM

Also, you're question about allergies: look up the "hygiene hypothesis". Basically, most kids in developed countries do not live around the equator, and get very little exposure to parasitic worms. This lack of exposure to tropical parasites means that IgE is never "primed" to respond correctly to a parasitic worm, so it acts inappropriately to harmless materials and creates a histamine response in the body. Most microbiologists have thrown their weight behind this theory, and there are positive trials in Europe going on right now.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:31 PM

PS: history on me. I finished half a degree in immunology and microbiology before switching into a dietetics program. My minor is in statistics (and let me tell you, there is a VERY significant correlation between healthy populations and vaccines). I got whooping cough after a heart surgery (therefore immunocompramised) from an unvaxinated child in my area and broke 3 ribs, had to spend several months in hospital "teetering". Since then, I've been passionate about educating people of the importance and benefits of vaccines. Again, prevention is always the best thing.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:29 PM

Also "most research is sponsored by the vaccine companies themselves"- like all things, this can be a complication. But the original development of vaccines was done through universities in a massive effort to combat infectious childhood disease. It was a wonderful coming together of brilliant minds, often experimenting on themselves and family members when they didn't have the funding. Amazing history, and a passionate story of scientists coming together to better the whole world with their combined knowledge. Truly, one of the greatest accomplishments ever.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:27 PM

We are not "suppressing" or "sterilizing kids" (again, this would be obvious to those who know what a virus is versus a bacterium)- we are simply priming their immune system so they will have a faster, stronger response if they are exposed to a virus, making the benefits of a virus two-fold: a) you are less likely to get sick in the first place b) if you do get sick, you will be able to have a "head start" at protecting yourself, so you will get a decrease in secondary symptoms (like infections) and a decrease in duration (again, decreases secondary symptoms too).

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:24 PM

Yes, they are not 100%- for most people protection is close to 80%, but if you are immunocomprimised then it is maybe 50-60%, which is why we need EVERYONE to get vaccinated- if only a handful of people get vaccinated, we are still exposing vulnerable people who cannot launch an immune system response to a virus that could kill them. If everyone get vaccinated, we can effectively eliminate the virus from the population (think of how well that worked with polio and small pox- don't see whole generations carried off by that anymore). Also, I agree, we are way under vaccinated for the flu.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 10:22 PM

Okay, since you don't know what viruses are (they are NOT bacteria, getting a vaccination is absolutely NOTHING like taking an antibiotic or using antibiotic hand soap) this is kind of a pointless conversation to have. So you don't want to vaccinate your kids- it would be fine if it didn't have the power to impact everyone around you. I don't question the credibility of vaccines because I've studied them, and they are a brilliant model for building immunity, it changed the course of history when they were invented.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on March 20, 2012
at 09:59 PM

@Jenny,I was wondering,you don't believe mainstream medical research and advise on lowfat,cholesterol,etc. Right?On the contrary,you do exactly the opposite of what they say.And believe me,there is a lot of "scientific research" on their crap,or so we're told.But you load up on sat fat and evil beef and you feel great.How come you don't question their credibility about the vaccines also.You seem to pick and choose what to believe I just wonder based on what.Research?Most researches are sponsored by the vaccine companies themselves

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

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on March 20, 2012
at 09:23 PM

A young child receives 30 or so shots in his first years of life.Really?You don't think it extreme.Can we let our kids get sick from time to time instead of surpressing and sterilizing them.This is a germophobe world we live in.When we were growing up we only got couple of shots and I don't remember anybody dying or with allergies for that matter.Now they want to inject boys with Gardasil,are you serious,and you say they are not after the money

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 09:10 PM

The way the vaccines are introduced to the body is not natural,it is unlike the course of a disease.I try to build my child's immune system,so that he is strong to fight diseases and not compromise it by injecting him with 5shots at a time,so it saves doctors visits.If you ask me,this is a crime,giving multiple shots to save time,poor little things.And don't start me on the swine flu epidemic that never materialized.Also if vaccines save lives how come for the last 10 years,the death toll from flu is still the same,you would think it would go down

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 08:59 PM

The only way to get 100%immunity is to survive the illness,and I'm not saying we should get sick.How do you explain vaccinated kids getting sick despite the fact that they got vaccinated.Vaccines do not protect 100%.To me it,s not worth the risk.Look at all the allergies nowadays,you don,t think that has something to do with the way the vaccines are developed.Every other kid is allergic to something.And yes,I let my child play in the dirt,as a matter of fact he is not allowed to use hand Sanitizer or any poisonous soap in school,just water,period.And like I said he never gets sick

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 05:19 PM

And @desi , I broke down some of the ingredients here: http://paleohacks.com/questions/94899/im-going-to-haiti-the-vaccine-shots-are-being-pushed-on-me-what-do-i-do/95040#95040

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 05:18 PM

Vaccines have been used since the dawn of time- admittedly the dangerous, uncontrolled kind, which would be "pox parties" and usually mothers that saved scabs from people that would survive different kids of pox. By making their children sick now, they could save them later from a more virulent strain. Vaccines are a streamlined, way less dangerous version of that. Excellent preventative medicine, that has made it way safer to be pregnant, an infant, elderly, or sick for other reasons.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 05:15 PM

Paleo is based on scientific validity. The concept of herd immunity is very paleo, and that is the basis of immunization. By creating a herd that is resistant to viruses, we can protect the vulnerable (elderly, babies, pregnant) who cannot be vaccinated effectively. If you think you are "poisoning" you baby by giving them a vaccine, don't let them sit in the dirt- contains many orders of magnitude more virus particulate, not to mention bacteria on top of that. If anyone gets one of the diseases vaccines protect against they will be exposed to WAYY more chemicals to save their life.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 20, 2012
at 05:13 PM

Mercola is telling lies to scare people out of vaccinating. He believes that vaccines cause mercury poisoning, which really just goes to show how much he knows about chemistry and the massive (MASSIVE) difference between ethyl and methyl mercury. He also believes vaccines cause autism, which is a shoddy claim based on shoddy assumptions of the underlying cause of autism. He believes that vaccines shed, which is scientifically impossible. He believes vaccines cause resistant strains, which is SO bad, he doesn't even know what a virus is in that case.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 02:09 PM

I think the mainstream doctors are putting children in danger by not disclosing the harmful side effects of vaccinations.What Mercola is doing is giving you info,something you'll never get in a doctor's office.What you do with that info is up to the individual.Also every paleo guru sells stuff,so I don't see how that's wrong.They are just trying to make a living.It's called a free market.If you look up the ingredient list of the vaxes you'll be stunned.I can't imagine anyone willing to inject their baby with that poison.Considering the purity of paleo and all

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 19, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Playing on peoples fear = not cool. Prying at peoples wallets = not cool. Maybe he's a neat dude in real life, but I'm not a fan at all of his business. There are so many other stand-up physicians who are out for paleo, I'd rather just ignore this guy and his complete misunderstanding of basic immunology (not to mention the difference between bacteria and viruses, he mixes them up ALL the time and seems to have no idea how they reproduce and infect..)

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 19, 2012
at 03:04 AM

There is very little money in vaccines for big pharma (enormously expensive to development, forced to sell them cheap so they can be used on the whole population) and I think most paleohackers would agree with me that vaccines are the best preventative medicine ever provided by conventional medicine. I think that telling people how to avoid vaccination is horribly dangerous and irresponsible, playing on people fears and putting their children at risk. Anyone who does that is not cool by me. Hence, I think he's a quack.

3acfdc99c70629cee7c670327cc45eab

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on March 19, 2012
at 01:28 AM

He doesn't sell alternatives to vaccines,just your basic supplements.What he offers is a source for the negative effects of vaccines and how to legally avoid them if one chooses to do so.As for him supplying dangerous info,it is up to the individual to consider his sources and those of Big Pharma and make their decision whom to believe.I personally think the vaccine companies are after the money,but this is just my opinion

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 18, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Of course he's going to have to sell things to keep providing information, but if that information is untrue and dangerous, it makes the supplements look like the main goal.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 08:24 PM

Why would anyone want to avoid vaccinations though? Why supply dangerous information to the public? He sells supplements and therapies as "alternatives" to vaccination, plus the anti-vax community takes care of the gurus that support them by buying everything they sell. There's money to be made by not supporting vaccination, which is dangerous and dishonest.

3acfdc99c70629cee7c670327cc45eab

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on March 18, 2012
at 07:20 PM

There is no money in the anti vax business.He is not profitting from that.There is a lot of free info on his website about avoiding vaxes and dealing with the law.He has to make money to keep sharing his info for free.How is one supposed to do that without selling supplements.At least his are tested and pure.

7d01d86c539003eed77cf901bf037412

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on March 18, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Yup, the anti-immunisation crap is exactly the kind of woo I was referring to in my own answer.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 12:24 AM

Right on the money with nutrition- waaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaay waaaaaaay off the money on most other things. He gets sued because he thinks that Dr. Wakefield is a stand up guy, and is willing to throw his weight behind any therapy to make a little money.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 18, 2012
at 12:12 AM

Yeah, his stuff on virology is SUCH quackery, it's hard to look past it. Seriously, I learned more about viruses and bacteria in grade 12 biology than he must have learned through his whole medical degree.

F1b82cc7e6d90384ad30007dd6c1b9e3

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on September 09, 2011
at 12:39 AM

I disagree, he is not a snake oil salesman. He is right on the money with scientifically researched nutrition.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 03, 2011
at 08:48 PM

hahaha make it simple stay simple:)

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on September 03, 2011
at 03:04 PM

Really? I cleared my lifelong asthma (and helped many other folks) with EFT. http://www.eftuniverse.com. Gosh, there must be millions of us who are doing that crazy "tapping" thing...

7592b3be70f189f30108046071f57266

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on September 03, 2011
at 01:05 PM

I agree. There were too many emails daily and I just got fed up with dissecting it to find anything useful. As ling as I get my Daily Apple I'm good

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on September 03, 2011
at 11:43 AM

He gets sued because he's a snake oil salesman and his "nutritional truth" is complete nonsense.

F5698e16f1793c0bb00daea6a2e222a4

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on June 21, 2011
at 06:39 PM

@Aravind - I wasn't responding to you, but to Kirill

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on June 21, 2011
at 03:10 PM

@xjhues - my comment of "recent insanity" of Don was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I also wrote that he has something to offer even if I disagree with some/most of his writings. Having said that, I disagree with your comment that paleo does not work for some people. By adopting a provincial definition of paleo, this is tautological. There have been many posts here that discuss the concept of "what is paleo". If eating seafood causes you to go into anaphylactic shock, does this mean paleo does not work? I could on but will need to take this up later

F5698e16f1793c0bb00daea6a2e222a4

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on June 21, 2011
at 02:24 PM

The notion that Don "went nuts" is laughable. Not everyone is the same. For example, the paleo-based diet that works for me does not work for my wife. If we both were to blog our experiences we would have separate narratives, and each of us would appear "insane" to a differenet faction of dietary militants. I'm not saying I'm behind eveything he writes, but I do believe he's both reasonable and honest.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 21, 2011
at 12:58 PM

holy hell, i forgot about his whole EFT thing. For the birds.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 21, 2011
at 12:57 PM

I'd agree. He was on Krill Oil straight up years ago. In fact, I got it from him and took it for quite some time. And he went into detail about the quality and sourcing of his product years before it was de rigor to do so.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 06:43 AM

I think Mercola has good intentions as well. After all you don't have to buy his products if you don't want to, you can filter out what you want to hear just as people filter out their beliefs that disagree with their own "religions". Folks like to marginalize people who do their own thing. It's natural. But as so seemingly evolved as we are... unfortunate. I don't supplement but I think he brings interesting information to the table. I wonder if he gave his supplements away for free if people would change their opinion. The Burzynski film was excellent.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 05:58 AM

I'd like to feed an Eskimo a potato and see what happens long term when you take them of their native diet.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 05:56 AM

Evolution is a usually slow process and those foods we've spent the most time with are failsafes, but if evolution cannot act quickly some populations would go extinct. And indeed some do. An environment change can rapidly produce selections for new traits and new species e.g. Cambrian explosion. In reality there are differences in what diets are sustainable for certain populations of people.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 05:46 AM

Don't want to be obvious, but doesn't reality indicate that some people do well on dairy and others not, and even some do better with A2 vs. A1 cows and some do better with starches and some without support the idea of nutritional or metabolic typing?

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:49 AM

I wish he was right about that stuff. It sounds neat! Also with regards to his supplements and products, he delivers pretty much the highest quality stuff you can imagine and he isn't selling very many useless supplements. Some supplements are pretty useless but if you look at the literature behind the ones he endorses you find that they are pretty darn good. Yes he makes money, but I do think that he is genuinely interested in helping people create vibrant health.

55dbaa499be7740b1cf5a0b5adf188f1

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:27 AM

Emotional freedom tapping or (EFT) I used it while I was in a waiting room before an interview, I was feeling very anxious. I calmed down, nailed the interview and got the job!

2d5221fa80d04a3d8ac6f471f9feae81

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on June 21, 2011
at 02:44 AM

Yeah, Don went nuts. There are many things to be corrected on the general paleo meme. But he's become very irrational. I see this same type of thought pattern in Mercola and Jaminet - they find data that gives their presuppositions an ambiguous nod, and then build a gigantic strawman argument with lots of hasty conclusions derived from it. Bizzare.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 21, 2011
at 02:40 AM

That's right he did go on about photons for a while:) star trek style.

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

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on June 21, 2011
at 01:27 AM

what do you think about the tapping "method" he advocates. I can't remember the term right now, but that is what originally turned me off..as well as all the sales hype

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

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on June 21, 2011
at 01:24 AM

what so you think about that tapping business???

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on June 20, 2011
at 11:42 PM

@Sophia - Yes it's the correct link. read the comments following the article. Regardless, I copied/pasted the comments from Dr Harris just in case people thought I was lobbing a hand grenade based on hearsay. Regarding Don, I'm not sure what his new method is. Not only is he condemning significant animal and fat consumption, his latest post is questioning the condemnation of grains (http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2011/06/gathering-wild-grains.html). All I can say is WTF???

D5e5788865a3d9a17a729097186e465f

on June 20, 2011
at 11:42 PM

Exactly what I was going to say! I hate how he tells you really GREAT information, but then says things like "Now, go and buy my fish oil supplements because mine are the best." Really turned me off from that guy.

E2456a3b347d37b526a6b8293faae77b

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on June 20, 2011
at 11:38 PM

Thanks Aravind! The link you posted was about Vit D and I didn't see anything on Mercola. Is that the right link? Also, I read some Primal Wisdom posts and it seems that now Don is doing a more Perfect Diet type paleo. Although I am big on meat and fat, I find that I run better off of moderate carbs than LC. I was doing VLC when I started paleo. Although I lost weight, I was always cold, lethargic and didn't perform as well in my workouts. When I incorporated some carbs back, all my VLC problems disappeared over night. I also heard that Asians (ie. me) do better with some carbs.

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(5147)

on June 20, 2011
at 11:29 PM

Actually, I was beginning to think that the recent insanity of Don has to do with metabolical typing. I believe what Don's going through. And I perhaps think we've not accorded credence to metabolic typing and the existence of individual differences.

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on June 20, 2011
at 11:13 PM

I like the content of his website very much, I didn't know you had to pay for his newsletter now, as I signed up a couple of years ago for free. I have tried some of his items, like the whey protein, sunscreen and krill oil, I agree he tries to sell his stuff but the content of his letters make it worth it to me. I recently watch a movie he had on about cancer called The Burzinski Movie, Cancer is Serious Business, it was incredible....so much so that I bought the movie to share with family and friends.

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D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on June 20, 2011
at 11:18 PM

Dr Mercola's site was my initial introduction to the problems with SAD and my initial source of information until I discovered the likes of Kurt Harris, Stephan Guyenet, and Peter at Hyperlipid. Much of Mercola's message is consistent with Paleo - anti grains, sugar/fructose, PUFA consumption, etc. I too have subscribed to his newsletter and I have just been too lazy to unsubscribe. He definitely pushes supplements and has some cheesy marketing.

Since I am a big fan of Kurt Harris, here is what he wrote about Mercola - http://www.archevore.com/panu-weblog/2009/10/28/vitamin-d-via-insolation-the-natural-route-in-the-north.html

"Does "Doctor" Mercola wear a red nose and have big floppy feet? A cursory review of his website shows he sells lots of nutrional supplements and promotes the totally bullshit idea of "nutritional typing" - some of us are designed to eat carbs! I guess I have my answer. Sorry to be so harsh. I hate scam artists like that."

Having said that, here's my take - there are some people that you come to trust and they are your "go-to" people in this community. Then there are people that you partially or mostly disagree with, but they still have something to offer vis-a-vis conventional wisdom (I put Mercola in this category. The recent insanity of Don at Primal Wisdom falls here too).

Since you are a member of this community and because you are a thinker, experimenter, and someone that takes their health into their own hands (presumably), you learn to take the good with the bad subject to your bandwidth to sift through the information (overload).

Anyway, not sure if that helps. Take care!

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 05:58 AM

I'd like to feed an Eskimo a potato and see what happens long term when you take them of their native diet.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on June 21, 2011
at 03:10 PM

@xjhues - my comment of "recent insanity" of Don was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I also wrote that he has something to offer even if I disagree with some/most of his writings. Having said that, I disagree with your comment that paleo does not work for some people. By adopting a provincial definition of paleo, this is tautological. There have been many posts here that discuss the concept of "what is paleo". If eating seafood causes you to go into anaphylactic shock, does this mean paleo does not work? I could on but will need to take this up later

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 05:56 AM

Evolution is a usually slow process and those foods we've spent the most time with are failsafes, but if evolution cannot act quickly some populations would go extinct. And indeed some do. An environment change can rapidly produce selections for new traits and new species e.g. Cambrian explosion. In reality there are differences in what diets are sustainable for certain populations of people.

E2456a3b347d37b526a6b8293faae77b

(758)

on June 20, 2011
at 11:38 PM

Thanks Aravind! The link you posted was about Vit D and I didn't see anything on Mercola. Is that the right link? Also, I read some Primal Wisdom posts and it seems that now Don is doing a more Perfect Diet type paleo. Although I am big on meat and fat, I find that I run better off of moderate carbs than LC. I was doing VLC when I started paleo. Although I lost weight, I was always cold, lethargic and didn't perform as well in my workouts. When I incorporated some carbs back, all my VLC problems disappeared over night. I also heard that Asians (ie. me) do better with some carbs.

F5698e16f1793c0bb00daea6a2e222a4

(678)

on June 21, 2011
at 02:24 PM

The notion that Don "went nuts" is laughable. Not everyone is the same. For example, the paleo-based diet that works for me does not work for my wife. If we both were to blog our experiences we would have separate narratives, and each of us would appear "insane" to a differenet faction of dietary militants. I'm not saying I'm behind eveything he writes, but I do believe he's both reasonable and honest.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on June 20, 2011
at 11:42 PM

@Sophia - Yes it's the correct link. read the comments following the article. Regardless, I copied/pasted the comments from Dr Harris just in case people thought I was lobbing a hand grenade based on hearsay. Regarding Don, I'm not sure what his new method is. Not only is he condemning significant animal and fat consumption, his latest post is questioning the condemnation of grains (http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2011/06/gathering-wild-grains.html). All I can say is WTF???

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5147)

on June 20, 2011
at 11:29 PM

Actually, I was beginning to think that the recent insanity of Don has to do with metabolical typing. I believe what Don's going through. And I perhaps think we've not accorded credence to metabolic typing and the existence of individual differences.

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on June 21, 2011
at 02:44 AM

Yeah, Don went nuts. There are many things to be corrected on the general paleo meme. But he's become very irrational. I see this same type of thought pattern in Mercola and Jaminet - they find data that gives their presuppositions an ambiguous nod, and then build a gigantic strawman argument with lots of hasty conclusions derived from it. Bizzare.

D5e5788865a3d9a17a729097186e465f

on June 20, 2011
at 11:42 PM

Exactly what I was going to say! I hate how he tells you really GREAT information, but then says things like "Now, go and buy my fish oil supplements because mine are the best." Really turned me off from that guy.

F5698e16f1793c0bb00daea6a2e222a4

(678)

on June 21, 2011
at 06:39 PM

@Aravind - I wasn't responding to you, but to Kirill

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 05:46 AM

Don't want to be obvious, but doesn't reality indicate that some people do well on dairy and others not, and even some do better with A2 vs. A1 cows and some do better with starches and some without support the idea of nutritional or metabolic typing?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 21, 2011
at 12:16 AM

Chairman Mao's appraisal of Stalin was that he was 80 percent good, 20 percent bad. My appraisal of Mercola is that he's 20 percent good, 80 percent bad. Just my opinion, but I think he's a supplement pimp and is representative of the greed one finds in the Alternative Health field. I have the feeling he is ready to jump on any bandwagon, if he can profit from it. People are cynical (rightfully so) towards mainstream health care. They can easily swing to the opposite extreme and follow folks like Mercola who offer them some tidbits of truth and then sell them snake oil. Better to go to Earthclinic At least there you won't have your last dollar sucked from your wallet, like you will over at Mercola's website.

55dbaa499be7740b1cf5a0b5adf188f1

(198)

on June 21, 2011
at 03:27 AM

Emotional freedom tapping or (EFT) I used it while I was in a waiting room before an interview, I was feeling very anxious. I calmed down, nailed the interview and got the job!

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

(1112)

on June 21, 2011
at 01:27 AM

what do you think about the tapping "method" he advocates. I can't remember the term right now, but that is what originally turned me off..as well as all the sales hype

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 21, 2011
at 12:58 PM

holy hell, i forgot about his whole EFT thing. For the birds.

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

(1112)

on June 21, 2011
at 01:24 AM

what so you think about that tapping business???

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on September 03, 2011
at 03:04 PM

Really? I cleared my lifelong asthma (and helped many other folks) with EFT. http://www.eftuniverse.com. Gosh, there must be millions of us who are doing that crazy "tapping" thing...

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 12:12 AM

Yeah, his stuff on virology is SUCH quackery, it's hard to look past it. Seriously, I learned more about viruses and bacteria in grade 12 biology than he must have learned through his whole medical degree.

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on June 20, 2011
at 11:39 PM

He's got quite a business going, but that doesn't keep me from reading his newsletter and checking out his interviews. He seems to spend quite a bit of time with "Life Extentioners" who want to live forever or freeze their bodies to be reanimated sometime in the future (Zombies! Vampires! - They freak me out a little).

But, I appreciate where he's coming from. He used to run marathons and eat lots of carbs multiple times a day. Now he's gone over to IF, intervals, weight training and a paleo type eating plan. He admits that he once had it all wrong and I like that.

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667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 21, 2011
at 01:26 AM

He does indeed have a lot of space cadet talk. Bit of tin foil wrapped around the head stuff for sure.

He does sell a lot of stuff. A LOT.

Bit ill say this: he's been anti-grain forever. I mean WAY before all this paleo talk. I found Mercola's even before I found WAP. At the time he was essentially just saying don't eat sugar, don't eat grains, and if you do dairy make it raw. This I would say is what the bulk of people here would do.

I personally credit him for setting me on the right path towards health. I stopped eating grains when I first read him, that was prolly seven years ago. Just that one change changed my life. That's prolly why I find paleo pretty easy.

I would def agree with others that everyone should UNsubscribe from his emails, though:)

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on June 21, 2011
at 02:30 AM

I simply don't need Mercola to tell me about nutrition anymore, and as has been mentioned, between the nutritional typing and weird stuff like "biophotons" in raw food creating enzyme-regulating energy fields (I don't know if he believes that anymore but he hasn't formally renounced it) I really don't see it as a good idea to view him as some nutritional guru, although we tend to agree on more than we disagree. That being said he is an excellent resource when he decided to cite his sources sufficiently. He is good for ideas and that is what we should use people for - just a source of ideas that we can go and evaluate for ourselves.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on June 21, 2011
at 03:49 AM

I wish he was right about that stuff. It sounds neat! Also with regards to his supplements and products, he delivers pretty much the highest quality stuff you can imagine and he isn't selling very many useless supplements. Some supplements are pretty useless but if you look at the literature behind the ones he endorses you find that they are pretty darn good. Yes he makes money, but I do think that he is genuinely interested in helping people create vibrant health.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 21, 2011
at 02:40 AM

That's right he did go on about photons for a while:) star trek style.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 21, 2011
at 12:57 PM

I'd agree. He was on Krill Oil straight up years ago. In fact, I got it from him and took it for quite some time. And he went into detail about the quality and sourcing of his product years before it was de rigor to do so.

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695b82d856d4bd9314b865864ff6df5e

on September 03, 2011
at 12:02 PM

No COLA on Paleo, even MerCOLA, lol

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55dbaa499be7740b1cf5a0b5adf188f1

(198)

on June 20, 2011
at 11:21 PM

I am a fan of Dr. Mercola's newsletters, I think they have a lot of good information however, when I signed up a couple of years ago, the newsletter was free. I have purchased some of his items and was happy with them, like the grass fed whey protein (very tasty), all natural sunscreen and krill oil. I just watched a compelling movie that linked from his website called the Burzynski movie, Cancer is Serious Business, I was so impressed with the movie that I bought it to share with my family and friends. I think he has great intentions and I do not think he is a quack, and I believe he is some kind of holistic doctor based in Chicago with a very successful clinic.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on June 21, 2011
at 06:43 AM

I think Mercola has good intentions as well. After all you don't have to buy his products if you don't want to, you can filter out what you want to hear just as people filter out their beliefs that disagree with their own "religions". Folks like to marginalize people who do their own thing. It's natural. But as so seemingly evolved as we are... unfortunate. I don't supplement but I think he brings interesting information to the table. I wonder if he gave his supplements away for free if people would change their opinion. The Burzynski film was excellent.

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41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on June 20, 2011
at 11:50 PM

I follow him on twitter. I don't find him as pushy via twitter as you guys seem to with his newsletters. I don't hang on every word that he says, but he does post some interesting things once in a while. I'm pretty sure he was the first person I heard mentioning that DIM can help women with endometriosis. After that I had seen a number of n=1 stories about women with endometriosis experimenting with DIM with at least some success (reduction of symptoms and whatnot), so maybe he was on to something.

He is like everyone else. Learn from him what you can, leave the rest.

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(195)

on June 20, 2011
at 11:27 PM

He is hit and miss. He markets himself well, but if you looked back over the years, he's far from consistent.

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 12:20 AM

His nutritional advice may be good (he has been on the low carb, anti-grain for an awfully long time), but I just can't get passed his virology/immunology. He is such an anti-vaxer, in the face of all valid medical research, and it is outright dangerous to push such anti-science opinions in relation to viruses. He jumped on the "viruses cause autism, and I think they might shed, and let's throw in a sentence in about resistance for those that don't know the difference between bacteria and viruses, and more people die from vaccine-preventable illnesses than ever before, and those babies that die from whooping cough are totally the minority so who even cares" band wagon YEARS ago, and has been the bane of every vaguely skeptical and science literate person ever since. Because of that, I think we can safely label him as what he is: a quack. A quack that knows how to eat, but should probably stop throwing his weight behind every alternative treatment thought up just to make money.

He is out for the money, and doesn't really care what he throws his weight behind. If you take enough shots, eventually you'll hit the truth, but I have to say that he has done quite a bit of damage getting there. I don't like the thought of paleo and the ancestral eating movement being tied so closely to such a quack.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 19, 2012
at 03:04 AM

There is very little money in vaccines for big pharma (enormously expensive to development, forced to sell them cheap so they can be used on the whole population) and I think most paleohackers would agree with me that vaccines are the best preventative medicine ever provided by conventional medicine. I think that telling people how to avoid vaccination is horribly dangerous and irresponsible, playing on people fears and putting their children at risk. Anyone who does that is not cool by me. Hence, I think he's a quack.

3acfdc99c70629cee7c670327cc45eab

(10)

on March 18, 2012
at 07:20 PM

There is no money in the anti vax business.He is not profitting from that.There is a lot of free info on his website about avoiding vaxes and dealing with the law.He has to make money to keep sharing his info for free.How is one supposed to do that without selling supplements.At least his are tested and pure.

7d01d86c539003eed77cf901bf037412

(1076)

on March 18, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Yup, the anti-immunisation crap is exactly the kind of woo I was referring to in my own answer.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 08:24 PM

Why would anyone want to avoid vaccinations though? Why supply dangerous information to the public? He sells supplements and therapies as "alternatives" to vaccination, plus the anti-vax community takes care of the gurus that support them by buying everything they sell. There's money to be made by not supporting vaccination, which is dangerous and dishonest.

3acfdc99c70629cee7c670327cc45eab

(10)

on March 19, 2012
at 01:28 AM

He doesn't sell alternatives to vaccines,just your basic supplements.What he offers is a source for the negative effects of vaccines and how to legally avoid them if one chooses to do so.As for him supplying dangerous info,it is up to the individual to consider his sources and those of Big Pharma and make their decision whom to believe.I personally think the vaccine companies are after the money,but this is just my opinion

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 05:18 PM

Vaccines have been used since the dawn of time- admittedly the dangerous, uncontrolled kind, which would be "pox parties" and usually mothers that saved scabs from people that would survive different kids of pox. By making their children sick now, they could save them later from a more virulent strain. Vaccines are a streamlined, way less dangerous version of that. Excellent preventative medicine, that has made it way safer to be pregnant, an infant, elderly, or sick for other reasons.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 02:09 PM

I think the mainstream doctors are putting children in danger by not disclosing the harmful side effects of vaccinations.What Mercola is doing is giving you info,something you'll never get in a doctor's office.What you do with that info is up to the individual.Also every paleo guru sells stuff,so I don't see how that's wrong.They are just trying to make a living.It's called a free market.If you look up the ingredient list of the vaxes you'll be stunned.I can't imagine anyone willing to inject their baby with that poison.Considering the purity of paleo and all

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Of course he's going to have to sell things to keep providing information, but if that information is untrue and dangerous, it makes the supplements look like the main goal.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:22 PM

Okay, since you don't know what viruses are (they are NOT bacteria, getting a vaccination is absolutely NOTHING like taking an antibiotic or using antibiotic hand soap) this is kind of a pointless conversation to have. So you don't want to vaccinate your kids- it would be fine if it didn't have the power to impact everyone around you. I don't question the credibility of vaccines because I've studied them, and they are a brilliant model for building immunity, it changed the course of history when they were invented.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 19, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Playing on peoples fear = not cool. Prying at peoples wallets = not cool. Maybe he's a neat dude in real life, but I'm not a fan at all of his business. There are so many other stand-up physicians who are out for paleo, I'd rather just ignore this guy and his complete misunderstanding of basic immunology (not to mention the difference between bacteria and viruses, he mixes them up ALL the time and seems to have no idea how they reproduce and infect..)

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 05:13 PM

Mercola is telling lies to scare people out of vaccinating. He believes that vaccines cause mercury poisoning, which really just goes to show how much he knows about chemistry and the massive (MASSIVE) difference between ethyl and methyl mercury. He also believes vaccines cause autism, which is a shoddy claim based on shoddy assumptions of the underlying cause of autism. He believes that vaccines shed, which is scientifically impossible. He believes vaccines cause resistant strains, which is SO bad, he doesn't even know what a virus is in that case.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:24 PM

Yes, they are not 100%- for most people protection is close to 80%, but if you are immunocomprimised then it is maybe 50-60%, which is why we need EVERYONE to get vaccinated- if only a handful of people get vaccinated, we are still exposing vulnerable people who cannot launch an immune system response to a virus that could kill them. If everyone get vaccinated, we can effectively eliminate the virus from the population (think of how well that worked with polio and small pox- don't see whole generations carried off by that anymore). Also, I agree, we are way under vaccinated for the flu.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:36 PM

Also, they inject boys with Gardisol to add a double protection for girls AND to protect boys against penile, oral, and possibly anal cancers. This vaccine literally can stop cancer from forming- that is VERY powerful, and we all know that prevention is better than treatment. This is a vaccination that should be available to all young people who want to protect themselves and future partners from cancer.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 21, 2012
at 05:23 PM

Big problem: targeting the immuno-suppressed does not work very well. Crash microbiology lesson: the concept of "primed" really just means "have antibodies on hand so when you do get infected, you can launch an attack immediately". The key thing, though, is your immune system HAS to be able to even launch that attack- if you are elderly, or a baby, or pregnant, or sick, even if you are vaccinated and have those antibodies on hand, if your immune system is disable and weak, the virus can multiply faster than you can defend yourself. This gets dangerous very fast.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:34 PM

Also, you're question about allergies: look up the "hygiene hypothesis". Basically, most kids in developed countries do not live around the equator, and get very little exposure to parasitic worms. This lack of exposure to tropical parasites means that IgE is never "primed" to respond correctly to a parasitic worm, so it acts inappropriately to harmless materials and creates a histamine response in the body. Most microbiologists have thrown their weight behind this theory, and there are positive trials in Europe going on right now.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 09:59 PM

@Jenny,I was wondering,you don't believe mainstream medical research and advise on lowfat,cholesterol,etc. Right?On the contrary,you do exactly the opposite of what they say.And believe me,there is a lot of "scientific research" on their crap,or so we're told.But you load up on sat fat and evil beef and you feel great.How come you don't question their credibility about the vaccines also.You seem to pick and choose what to believe I just wonder based on what.Research?Most researches are sponsored by the vaccine companies themselves

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 05:19 PM

And @desi , I broke down some of the ingredients here: http://paleohacks.com/questions/94899/im-going-to-haiti-the-vaccine-shots-are-being-pushed-on-me-what-do-i-do/95040#95040

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:27 PM

We are not "suppressing" or "sterilizing kids" (again, this would be obvious to those who know what a virus is versus a bacterium)- we are simply priming their immune system so they will have a faster, stronger response if they are exposed to a virus, making the benefits of a virus two-fold: a) you are less likely to get sick in the first place b) if you do get sick, you will be able to have a "head start" at protecting yourself, so you will get a decrease in secondary symptoms (like infections) and a decrease in duration (again, decreases secondary symptoms too).

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:39 PM

And multiple injections at one time- you are literally exposed to more "toxins" as by products of daily body metabolism than a multi dose vaccination. And the virus particulate- again, you are exposed to more different viruses when you sit in the dirt than are contained in a vaccination. In terms of the body, a vaccine is like a tiny drop in the bucket, has very little effect. Small price to pay for immunity.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 21, 2012
at 02:28 PM

I also happen to differentiate virus and bacterium,cause I read a lot and eventually want to pursue a naturopatic career.And I believe that the early vaccine researchers had the best intentions,but as with most things that has turned into a profitting business.Just like the food pyramid that's being pushed on us,eat like this so you get sick,stay sick and buy medication,brilliant if you ask me.But people don't get it,they trust their doctor100%.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 08:59 PM

The only way to get 100%immunity is to survive the illness,and I'm not saying we should get sick.How do you explain vaccinated kids getting sick despite the fact that they got vaccinated.Vaccines do not protect 100%.To me it,s not worth the risk.Look at all the allergies nowadays,you don,t think that has something to do with the way the vaccines are developed.Every other kid is allergic to something.And yes,I let my child play in the dirt,as a matter of fact he is not allowed to use hand Sanitizer or any poisonous soap in school,just water,period.And like I said he never gets sick

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:29 PM

Also "most research is sponsored by the vaccine companies themselves"- like all things, this can be a complication. But the original development of vaccines was done through universities in a massive effort to combat infectious childhood disease. It was a wonderful coming together of brilliant minds, often experimenting on themselves and family members when they didn't have the funding. Amazing history, and a passionate story of scientists coming together to better the whole world with their combined knowledge. Truly, one of the greatest accomplishments ever.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 09:23 PM

A young child receives 30 or so shots in his first years of life.Really?You don't think it extreme.Can we let our kids get sick from time to time instead of surpressing and sterilizing them.This is a germophobe world we live in.When we were growing up we only got couple of shots and I don't remember anybody dying or with allergies for that matter.Now they want to inject boys with Gardasil,are you serious,and you say they are not after the money

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 21, 2012
at 02:15 PM

Also the human body,given it's healthy,has it's own mechanisms to fight disease.So we don't need to "prime" it,but rather let it strengthen with nutrition and a supplement here and there.Just like when you get a fever you shouldn't run for the Tylenol,but let it fise so it can kill the infection,the body knows what to do.Yes,there are people that are immunocompromised,but they are the most targeted by the vaccine manufacturers,I don't understand it.Babies,pregnant women and the elderly are most encouraged to get their shots.Heck,there are countries that don't vax until 2,nobody's dying there

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 21, 2012
at 01:46 PM

I wonder how many males get the type of cancer that Gardasil supposedly prevents,and how many deaths there are from that particular strain.I bet not many,not enough to inject every boy.I have read about girls paralyzed after getting Gardasil,not cool.Thank god there are still religious exempts almost everywhere.Do you think vaccines should be mandatory

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 20, 2012
at 09:10 PM

The way the vaccines are introduced to the body is not natural,it is unlike the course of a disease.I try to build my child's immune system,so that he is strong to fight diseases and not compromise it by injecting him with 5shots at a time,so it saves doctors visits.If you ask me,this is a crime,giving multiple shots to save time,poor little things.And don't start me on the swine flu epidemic that never materialized.Also if vaccines save lives how come for the last 10 years,the death toll from flu is still the same,you would think it would go down

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 21, 2012
at 05:33 PM

With one of the most thoroughly researched, best proven methods of prevention that is based on the model of natural herd immunity, we have managed to drastically increase our life span and decrease the number of dead and invalid children. How often do you hear of kids dying from viruses these days? Do you want that to change? No, of course not, no one does. That is why we vaccinate- for now, and for the future generation to be able to support each other and create a maximum health in society.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 05:15 PM

Paleo is based on scientific validity. The concept of herd immunity is very paleo, and that is the basis of immunization. By creating a herd that is resistant to viruses, we can protect the vulnerable (elderly, babies, pregnant) who cannot be vaccinated effectively. If you think you are "poisoning" you baby by giving them a vaccine, don't let them sit in the dirt- contains many orders of magnitude more virus particulate, not to mention bacteria on top of that. If anyone gets one of the diseases vaccines protect against they will be exposed to WAYY more chemicals to save their life.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 21, 2012
at 05:28 PM

To quote Seth Mnookin: "Choosing to not vaccinate your children is like choosing to drink and drive. Sure, you can do it, but it has the ability to affect everyone around you". Maybe an extreme quote, but I think it accurately illustrates the importance that people are missing- it's not just about you, and your child (though who would not want to protect their child??? that is beyond me), it's about the vulnerable members of society and protecting them. That is the big picture- if you vaccinate, not only does your chance of mortality decrease, but everyone around you does as well.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 21, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I like your reasoning,but don't agree with it.Anyway,I don't know if you have children,but for a mother is very hard to make a decision,especially when nobody really knows what the right answer is.I too have thought long and hard and wondered if not vaccinating was the right choice,but watching my son thrive has convinced me that not vaccinating also works....for now.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 20, 2012
at 10:31 PM

PS: history on me. I finished half a degree in immunology and microbiology before switching into a dietetics program. My minor is in statistics (and let me tell you, there is a VERY significant correlation between healthy populations and vaccines). I got whooping cough after a heart surgery (therefore immunocompramised) from an unvaxinated child in my area and broke 3 ribs, had to spend several months in hospital "teetering". Since then, I've been passionate about educating people of the importance and benefits of vaccines. Again, prevention is always the best thing.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 22, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Vaccination is not medication, it's a prevention method. It's not treating a useless ailment, it is protecting individuals and populations. I think this conversation is not going anywhere, so I while I am glad you applied your critical eye to the science of nutrition, I'm sad that you didn't manage to apply it properly to vaccination to discover the low risk and effectiveness that prevention has over treatment-after-sickness.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 21, 2012
at 05:31 PM

"There are countries that don't vax until 2, nobody's dying there". Okay, maybe google. We vaccinate starting at birth, and people are dying HERE. Last year we had a woman miscarry a 7 month pregnancy because of a virus she picked up from a local alternative school that is infamous for not vaccinating. My friend's baby got whooping cough and was in the hospital for months, it was a horrible experience. We are having babies die of whooping cough, vulnerable kids getting carried off by measles, and old people dying ALL THE TIME from standard influenza. It is a problem HERE.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 21, 2012
at 05:26 PM

The concept of herd immunity is integral to vaccination. If a majority of the population is not vaccinated, then you are wasting your time and might as well give up, because the people who were going to get sick and die in the first place, are still possibly going to get sick, so aren't very well protected without a buffer around them. I do believe vaccination should be mandatory for everyone, on schedule. Otherwise, we aren't protecting the most vulnerable members of society, which we should all have a responsibility towards. Perfect prevention- again theory has been around for YEARS.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 21, 2012
at 05:42 PM

Paralization and "associated deaths" were investigated and was completely unrelated to the Gardisol vaccination. The one girls who's mom was really upset saying that she was killed by the vaccine, had a heart defect that had been undiagnosed. Doctors were surprised she lived as long as she did with such a structural defect. Some people sue, sad as it sounds, when they think they'll make some money.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 21, 2012
at 05:36 PM

Also, because this makes me cringe hard when people say they didn't vaccinate their decision, I know that it's your personal choice but please a tip: don't bring your child into a retirement home or an long term care facility, please. My boyfriend's grandma passed away last year from the flu, and because children that are unvaccinated are more likely to get it (and therefore have it dormant, even if it never expresses into a full blown illness in them) it really can change lives irreversibly. Avoid newborns too, and pregnant friends. Seriously, it is more important than people think.

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 22, 2012
at 05:39 AM

On top of everything it gets injected with chemicals every other week.Then it is fed chix fingers and fries and given apple juice and pasteurized choco milk and treated to fast food all the time.So it grows to be a cronically sick adult,and you want me to care,no thanks.Until the government shows me they care about me I will continue "putting people @risk by not vaccinating"instead of making my son be a guinea pig for some greedy monopolist like Merck.More people die from taking medication than anything else,but nobody seems to care about that,they just continue to push it to make money

Fd1c5e35538fbe2ea5eccb8acd7ae546

(496)

on March 22, 2012
at 05:25 AM

People die here cause they are chronically sick.They eat crap,drink diet coke,take unnecessary meds including antidepressants.Everybody I know takes some sort of medication and is popping Advil like it's candy.They don't take care of themselves,so why should I worry about them.Pregnant women are prescribed antidepressants to prevent the baby blues and you expect healthy babies.No,I have no compassion for that.Then when the baby is born they feed him crappy formula and start rice [email protected] 4 months cause the baby"is hungry".No it isn't hungry for processed junk,it's hungry for breast milk.

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7d01d86c539003eed77cf901bf037412

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on March 18, 2012
at 12:10 AM

Too much into woo for me to take seriously. I see no reason to pay attention to him when there are many people out there who are better qualified and more rigorous thinkers. He may be right about some things but even a blind chicken can peck corn.

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on September 13, 2011
at 12:45 PM

FWIW I stumbled across some of his youtube vids long ago and he seemed to have his boat pointed in the right direction (even if its a carnival ride boat) his ideas on soy though, woke me up to soymilk. This was before I even knew of the multi million dollar business he runs. I watched a bunch of vids and thought - this guy gets it. O.k the guy has gotten very rich, good on him, it's sounds if the stuff he peddles is genuine and good quality though. If he has been plagiarizing ideas? then that is not cool.

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on September 03, 2011
at 12:28 PM

I can only say positive things about his advice and supplements.

For instance, I bought some of his whey protein supplement, and the attention to detail was astounding, from avoiding artificial sweetners, to the correct form of B12 (methylcobalamin), to the right protein balance, and production methods.

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on September 03, 2011
at 11:41 AM

I'm okay with Mercola. He gets sued a lot by people who don't want nutritional truth to get out there. He wins of course, but it is expensive. He sells things to support his mission of keeping the information out there. I purchased a wonderful CD series, then cancelled about a year later because I wasn't keeping up with the long interviews. I was no longer driving long distances so it was hard to listen to it all. I cancelled over the phone and never had a problem.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on September 03, 2011
at 11:43 AM

He gets sued because he's a snake oil salesman and his "nutritional truth" is complete nonsense.

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on September 03, 2011
at 08:48 PM

hahaha make it simple stay simple:)

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on September 09, 2011
at 12:39 AM

I disagree, he is not a snake oil salesman. He is right on the money with scientifically researched nutrition.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 18, 2012
at 12:24 AM

Right on the money with nutrition- waaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaay waaaaaaay off the money on most other things. He gets sued because he thinks that Dr. Wakefield is a stand up guy, and is willing to throw his weight behind any therapy to make a little money.

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on June 21, 2011
at 07:44 AM

I had to laugh when he talked about his "hardcore" workout program yesterday at the livin la vida low carb show. The guy has been promoting his products & lifestyle for such a long time and still looks skinny with a pot belly in his training videos. He's like this Josh Rubin guy who seems to know everything in his youtube clips but is still fat and angry after so many years :)

My personal experience with Mercola? I ordered some D3 from him and it took 3 months to arrive. When I emailed to the customer service they didn't even reply for a couple of weeks... When the package finally arrived I got a free-shipping coupon with it, but it had expired for 2 months, haha. Oh, and they also deleted me from their mailing list. Great company! :)

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on March 19, 2013
at 09:32 AM

I question one of his You Tube videos once, I can't remember what it was now but I didnt write anything rude (Not that I would and it wouldn't make sense to, as all comments have to be approved first anyway). My comment never made it. Then a week or so later I wanted to question the Doctor's daily raw milk breakfast regime and was told that I had been blocked from commenting!!! Obviously more important to allow gushing praise "I'm so in love with this doctor" than any debate. Then I noticed how the newsletters are constanly pushing Pills of some sort (or kitchen ware, or books... much like Kevin Gianni) - so he's much like any Doctor but just works in different fields. Don't buy those pills by these!

as a new user I am not allowed to use image tags but you can see a screen grab here (its a Jpeg)

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on June 19, 2012
at 09:28 AM

Listen to Cutting Through the Matrix with Alan Watt (you can find it on Itunes) to see how we are all fooled into thinking things promoted by our government, medical community and media are good for us when in reality it does much more harm.

Also, check this article out before calling people names using ad-hominem attacks like "quack":

  http://www.vaccinerights.com/pdf/DispellingVaccinationMythsx.pdf

We are all being activly conditioned to be agressive and against those who have concerns...

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