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dopamine and drugs question

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 08, 2012 at 5:41 PM

curious about whether cocaine use has any lingering effects on the brain, even after the activity has been stopped? Does a dopamine addiction fuel cocaine use, or does cocaine use fuel a dopamine addiction?

I am just very interested in knowing more about this.

Thanks for your input.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 08:51 PM

Good for you! If you ever want to have a dopamine spike- find something that would naturally raise it. Like love, fun, other things.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 08:09 PM

Thank you all for your responses! And, for the record, I haven't done any cocaine in about a year, so I'm more interested in the brain recovery aspect and not the relapse prevention part.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 08:00 PM

I'm always doing things to get some sort of rush from them, and I think part of the reason I was so anorexic when I was a young boy was because the endorphins that were released when strongly restricting calories compulsively exercising.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:58 PM

I've kind of always been a thrill seeker and will do pretty much anything to get my juices flowing. Have always managed to stay out of trouble aside from emotional stuff.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:57 PM

I just emailed you

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:57 PM

Will I never reset my dopamine status if I keep doing things that I like- such as exercising, having sex, and doing other stupid things like spins in an airplane at low altitude?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:55 PM

Thank you for the responses! For the record, I don't do it anymore, and haven't in close to a year. I think I am for sure an addict when it comes to a few things, but i feel like I'm just trading one vice/addiction for a less evil one(s).

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Thank you for the responses! For the record, I don't do it anymore, and haven't in close to a year. I think I am for sure an addict when it comes to a few things, but i feel like I'm just trading one vice for a less evil one.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:54 PM

OK I got your email address. thanks

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Also a product called DopaBoost by Designs for Health is very helpful for many people who need more dopamine either due to gentics or abuse. My friend has ADHD and used to do a lot of cocaine and now she takes 4 Dopaboost twice a day and is off of her Adderal! She like the Dopaboost better! Btw, that is more than the recommend dose on the bottle but its safe levels of the active ingredients according to her ND - for HER that is. I take 2 per day myself and together with Lithium orotate and 5htp, D3, diet etc its better than any Rx drug for me, for depression :)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:50 PM

Thank you so much! you can email me at [email protected] if you'd like. Also, just to note, I will delete this comment shortly so as not to leave my primary email up for the paleo world to see.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:47 PM

I forgot to mention - it is easier for your brain to go into relapse because of the way it re-wires itself.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:46 PM

REally? I swore there was a Cocaine picture. Let me investigate. If not I will ask my colleagues at the Amen Clinic here in WA. I can post it here for you or you can give me your email address.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Wow, thanks for the link. Those are some incredible images he's gathered. I couldn't find any on specifically cocaine use though, but I'm sure there's little difference between the other addiction images. Incredible stuff.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Most (or all?) addictions whether to cocaine, cigarettes, porn, gambling, sex, eating, computer, shopping etc etc are all thought to be related to issues with dopamine.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:31 PM

Most (all?) addictions wheather its to cocaine, porn, gambling, sex, eating, computer, shopping etc etc are all thought to be related to issues with dopamine.

Aacabe21bcb2c8a5a15717d60447c1f4

(144)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:14 PM

Yes, by principle the nervous system is flexible and it can re-regulate your dopamine receptors back to normal levels over time. You will have to have patience though, find healthy ways of boosting dopamine, and resist relapses. One interesting book on the topic is "The Compass of Pleasure," you should try reading more about it to gain perspective.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Great link !

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:11 PM

Yes you can. But you will have to go through a period of withdrawal. It is painful, but you can do it!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Yeah, i know it raises dopamine threshold in the short term, but what about when someone stops using it? Can you recover from being a dopamine addict?

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on June 08, 2012
at 07:29 PM

Brains heal and this has been researched by Daniel Amen, MD using high tech brain scans called SPECT. I highly recommend you go to this website, go to the SPECT Gallery,and look at cocaine addicted brains, before and after. http://www.amenclinics.com/ Good luck.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:50 PM

Thank you so much! you can email me at [email protected] if you'd like. Also, just to note, I will delete this comment shortly so as not to leave my primary email up for the paleo world to see.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:46 PM

REally? I swore there was a Cocaine picture. Let me investigate. If not I will ask my colleagues at the Amen Clinic here in WA. I can post it here for you or you can give me your email address.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:57 PM

I just emailed you

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Also a product called DopaBoost by Designs for Health is very helpful for many people who need more dopamine either due to gentics or abuse. My friend has ADHD and used to do a lot of cocaine and now she takes 4 Dopaboost twice a day and is off of her Adderal! She like the Dopaboost better! Btw, that is more than the recommend dose on the bottle but its safe levels of the active ingredients according to her ND - for HER that is. I take 2 per day myself and together with Lithium orotate and 5htp, D3, diet etc its better than any Rx drug for me, for depression :)

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:54 PM

OK I got your email address. thanks

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Wow, thanks for the link. Those are some incredible images he's gathered. I couldn't find any on specifically cocaine use though, but I'm sure there's little difference between the other addiction images. Incredible stuff.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 06:51 PM

Good question, and it does... but I am too tired and too lazy to answer your question right now. The point is that drugs re-wire your brain and raise your threshold for dopamine levels, so you need more and more cocaine to achieve the same level of dopamine high.

The best website I found about addictions and how they form is the one about addiction to porn. I watched Your Brain on Porn series http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Yeah, i know it raises dopamine threshold in the short term, but what about when someone stops using it? Can you recover from being a dopamine addict?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:11 PM

Yes you can. But you will have to go through a period of withdrawal. It is painful, but you can do it!

Aacabe21bcb2c8a5a15717d60447c1f4

(144)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:14 PM

Yes, by principle the nervous system is flexible and it can re-regulate your dopamine receptors back to normal levels over time. You will have to have patience though, find healthy ways of boosting dopamine, and resist relapses. One interesting book on the topic is "The Compass of Pleasure," you should try reading more about it to gain perspective.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Most (or all?) addictions whether to cocaine, cigarettes, porn, gambling, sex, eating, computer, shopping etc etc are all thought to be related to issues with dopamine.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:58 PM

I've kind of always been a thrill seeker and will do pretty much anything to get my juices flowing. Have always managed to stay out of trouble aside from emotional stuff.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 08:09 PM

Thank you all for your responses! And, for the record, I haven't done any cocaine in about a year, so I'm more interested in the brain recovery aspect and not the relapse prevention part.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:47 PM

I forgot to mention - it is easier for your brain to go into relapse because of the way it re-wires itself.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:57 PM

Will I never reset my dopamine status if I keep doing things that I like- such as exercising, having sex, and doing other stupid things like spins in an airplane at low altitude?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Great link !

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Thank you for the responses! For the record, I don't do it anymore, and haven't in close to a year. I think I am for sure an addict when it comes to a few things, but i feel like I'm just trading one vice for a less evil one.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:31 PM

Most (all?) addictions wheather its to cocaine, porn, gambling, sex, eating, computer, shopping etc etc are all thought to be related to issues with dopamine.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 08, 2012
at 08:51 PM

Good for you! If you ever want to have a dopamine spike- find something that would naturally raise it. Like love, fun, other things.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 07:55 PM

Thank you for the responses! For the record, I don't do it anymore, and haven't in close to a year. I think I am for sure an addict when it comes to a few things, but i feel like I'm just trading one vice/addiction for a less evil one(s).

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on June 08, 2012
at 08:00 PM

I'm always doing things to get some sort of rush from them, and I think part of the reason I was so anorexic when I was a young boy was because the endorphins that were released when strongly restricting calories compulsively exercising.

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