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Have you changed or eliminated treatment from Doctors and Dentists for you and your family since Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 01, 2012 at 4:42 PM

I've always researched the shots my children get and try to limit their exposure to antibiotics for example--but now I find myself questioning flouride treatments at the Dentist, meds, suggested care and of course diet suggestions. Has anybody here changed providers, type of provider or eschewed conventional medicine since reaping the benefits of paleo eating and education? How far have you gone to question and challenge prescribed care?

I'm hoping the Paleo Physicians Network takes off and gathers a lot of providers to choose from. Anybody use it yet?

(note) I am in no way suggested not to go to the Doctor.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

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on January 02, 2012
at 12:28 AM

good for you, im going solar distilled water next summer. i have bought most everything i need now. if i need ions in my water i will add salt. i dont need fluoride and mercury, lead or halogenated hydrocarbons. did your teacher really think water dissolves bone? drink a hot soda pop and feel your teeth dissolve.the companies make sure you drink it cold so you wont figure that out.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on January 02, 2012
at 12:14 AM

Don't you know gluten-free people don't get sick? Noob.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

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on January 01, 2012
at 11:58 PM

scientifically, cholesterol is an acute phase reactant. i should win a Nobel Prize in Medicine for saying that.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on January 01, 2012
at 11:16 PM

I get you! I just hate the idea that just because everyone does it, it is considered "rebellion" to be true to oneself, KWIM? And I would NOT do chemo/radiation--I'd do super high dose Vitamin D, ketogenic diet and lots of laughter!

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

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on January 01, 2012
at 09:13 PM

@Dragonfly, I mean it more in the sense of what is commonly accepted. It's not just doctors/dentists, but family, friends, schools, etc. that we end up going against. Every decision can feel like a swim upstream. And it's undeniable that modern medicine has some answers to some things. The challenge lies in figuring out what those things are under which circumstances. For example, if I had cancer, would I get radiation and chemo? Possibly.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on January 01, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Why does it have to be "rebellion"? Mainstream medicine has not been around that long, in the scheme of things--I have never seen docs as gods. I prefer to consider doctors of any type as consultants and take full responsibility for my health.

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on January 01, 2012
at 07:36 PM

Actually they are now finding higher cholesterol in women is a good thing! http://www.drbriffa.com/2011/10/06/why-a-raised-cholesterol-level-may-be-a-cause-for-celebration/

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on January 01, 2012
at 05:06 PM

This is what Paleo fixed for me: http://eugenia.queru.com/2011/10/14/6-weeks-with-scdpaleo/#health and this is an update on it that I posted just a few days ago: http://eugenia.queru.com/2011/12/30/four-months-with-paleo/ As you can see, I have plenty of reasons to trust Paleo than 10 years of sickness and medication that never worked (for IBS).

Also, a few days ago my cardiologist said that I should be eating more chicken/fish and veggies, and less beef/port/coconut-oil/offal (my cholesterol/triglycerides were high-ish). Let me just say that I will be doing the exact opposite. These people don't get it, they operate with 30 year old research. As for my numbers, they were high not because I'm eating Paleo, but because they were higher before Paleo, and Paleo is slowly brings them down. But for my doctor, which didn't have previous numbers, she put the blame to Paleo.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

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on January 01, 2012
at 11:58 PM

scientifically, cholesterol is an acute phase reactant. i should win a Nobel Prize in Medicine for saying that.

C835934198ffe146cb90eebc22c6b8d8

(844)

on January 01, 2012
at 07:36 PM

Actually they are now finding higher cholesterol in women is a good thing! http://www.drbriffa.com/2011/10/06/why-a-raised-cholesterol-level-may-be-a-cause-for-celebration/

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C835934198ffe146cb90eebc22c6b8d8

on January 01, 2012
at 07:58 PM

My husband has stopped going to a doctor altogether which is incredible considering he used to have chronic asthma and need weekly allergy shots.Since going Paleo he hasn't needed a doctor! I only go for my yearly now. As for the kids we selectively vaccinate and we don't go to those appointments that just check up on them for the heck of it. we also try to find other alternatives to antibiotics. When I had my baby who is 6 months old I tested positive for group B strep so of course during delivery they pumped me (and the baby via me) full of antibiotics. That resulted in babies gut flora being off and spitting up everything she ate all the time. The doctor was quick to give my new born Prevacid. I went home and researched since that did not sounds right. Turns out all she and I needed was a good probiotic! As for Dental my hubby goes every 4 months due to receding gums. I go once a year to make sure everything is still good. My 3 year old went for the first time and her teeth had NO plaque at all. So I wouldn't eliminate doctors or dentist completely but I do think we need to do our own research, trust our guts and be our own health advocates.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on January 01, 2012
at 08:32 PM

I don't go to allopathic docs/dentists anymore and haven't in over 3 years.

If I get in an accident, break a leg, etc, I will definitely got to the ER, but otherwise I trust myself more now around healthcare than any MD/dentist I have ever seen.

My husband's naturopath was the one who turned us on to testing our Vitamin D levels (pre-Primal) and if I needed a consult for any reason, I would call him, for sure.

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on January 01, 2012
at 07:14 PM

i have always questioned what my doctor has suggested/prescribed. if it doesn't make sense, i go with my gut. i stopped getting fluoride treatments over 20 years ago when i started drinking distilled/RO water exclusively. my teeth are fine and i still have bones inspite of what my chemistry teacher predicted.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on January 02, 2012
at 12:28 AM

good for you, im going solar distilled water next summer. i have bought most everything i need now. if i need ions in my water i will add salt. i dont need fluoride and mercury, lead or halogenated hydrocarbons. did your teacher really think water dissolves bone? drink a hot soda pop and feel your teeth dissolve.the companies make sure you drink it cold so you wont figure that out.

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Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

on January 02, 2012
at 12:10 AM

my doctor wanted to place me on lipitor, thats crazy. so i ignored him. its funny i can read all day long scientific articles about how apolipoprotein A is an acute phase reactant, but if i call cholesterol ,a molecule transported by apoA ,an acute phase reactant i get ridiculed. well one cant go up without the other now can it? Cholseterol is protective. i hope my body can make enough when i dont eat enough.

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on January 02, 2012
at 12:01 AM

I had tried for years to treat my acne with erythromycin and the pill (dianette). The antibiotics never did a whole lot and the pill improved things but by no means got rid of the acne. I finally realized nightshades cause ALL of my acne, something I am still pretty surprised by. I could get off the pill now but I stay on for other benefits.

I also have psoriasis and I am currently on day 2 of a 100% paleo diet to try to figure that out. I've been paleo for a good while but since I'm a sugar addict I've only ever been 80 or 90%. I'm also avoiding high FODMAP foods for the moment. My parents who are doctors have suggested seeing a dermatologist and getting steroid cream for the psoriasis but I have no intention of ever doing that as it will just be treating the symptom. My hypothesis at the moment is that it's gluten sensitivity that is causing the problem and there has already been some improvement so I think there's a good chance I'm right. I have also already found that it improves when I take vitamin d supplements.

If I had an actual disease I would be straight to the doctor, I don't distrust modern medicine. However if something (acne, psoriasis etc.) is clearly just a symptom then I may use the doctors to help track things (vitamin d levels for example) but I would not ask them for treatment. I respect doctors a lot but they can be pretty short sighted. My mother, a microbiologist (she prescribed the erythro), refuses to believe that diet has any effect on acne!

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F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

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on January 01, 2012
at 06:14 PM

I certainly understand the impulse. I've had the same trickle-down effect, and I'm married to a doctor! (To his credit, he believes that less medical care is better for everyone.)

There are all sorts of things I see now that I've just accepted without researching or exploring for myself. But modern life is so full and noisy, it's impossible to examine everything without losing my mind! You have to pick your battles, unless you're just totally comfortable giving the world the bird and going off-grid. Kudos to that.

But for the rest of us, some negotiation is required. My daughter is 2, which is supposed to be the age you take them to the dentist for the first time, and I'm just not interested in a hygiene lecture. Interestingly, her doctor was okay with that. Dentists (forgive me if you're a dentist) are particularly good at getting healthy people to pay for services, and the more I research into this WOE, the more I see that it's a self-sustaining cycle. So by jumping off that train, you no longer require their solutions to their manufactured problems.

And everything's fine until it's not and you have to make some heavy decisions. I recently had a mole removed and wondered what I would do if it came back as melanoma. I decided that I would try something I've seen mentioned around which involves a 10-day fast to starve the cancer, but then I would probably have to come at it with guns blazing Western-medicine styles. Luckily it was benign and I didn't have to make that decision. But we're all bound to come up against something similar in our lifetimes, either for ourselves or someone we love. It's hard to know where to rebel and where to give in.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on January 01, 2012
at 09:13 PM

@Dragonfly, I mean it more in the sense of what is commonly accepted. It's not just doctors/dentists, but family, friends, schools, etc. that we end up going against. Every decision can feel like a swim upstream. And it's undeniable that modern medicine has some answers to some things. The challenge lies in figuring out what those things are under which circumstances. For example, if I had cancer, would I get radiation and chemo? Possibly.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 01, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Why does it have to be "rebellion"? Mainstream medicine has not been around that long, in the scheme of things--I have never seen docs as gods. I prefer to consider doctors of any type as consultants and take full responsibility for my health.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 01, 2012
at 11:16 PM

I get you! I just hate the idea that just because everyone does it, it is considered "rebellion" to be true to oneself, KWIM? And I would NOT do chemo/radiation--I'd do super high dose Vitamin D, ketogenic diet and lots of laughter!

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on January 01, 2012
at 05:36 PM

I am a fan of 99% of conventional wisdom. Paleo is the 1%.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on January 02, 2012
at 12:14 AM

Don't you know gluten-free people don't get sick? Noob.

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