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Doctors...what are the most important medical things us paleos don't know about?

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Or is this forum so good that everything has been covered?

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on March 13, 2012
at 02:58 PM

Haven't been able to find any references, but throughout the Crusades and up through the Middle Ages, Islamic medicine was far more advanced than Western medicine. And a method like I mentioned would provide far more incentive for your doctor to make sure you stayed healthy and lived a long life. It would also incubate a more personal relationship between doctor and patient. It seems some Western doctors are having better luck with a similarly styled concierge service, but at the risk of charges of elitism and cutting off patients who can't afford their services ...

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on March 12, 2012
at 03:24 AM

@cerement, that's interesting--I hadn't heard that before.

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(2923)

on March 12, 2012
at 12:01 AM

I liked the idea I read somewhere of the traditional Arabic method of dealing with doctors: your doctor was effectively on retainer - he got his monthly paycheck (insurance premium) so long as you were healthy. The moment you became sick/injured/unwell, all payments stopped and did not resume until you were healthy again.

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on January 28, 2012
at 04:31 AM

as a libertarian i dont think is fare to tax someone and then not deliver also. so, while im a libertarian im also not a cheater.

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

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on May 31, 2011
at 04:06 PM

is the blog coming??? where are you a doctor at by the way i would love you to be my doctor!!!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on May 07, 2011
at 05:50 PM

It's coming. Spoke to the techinicals people to get the site up and going. I think it's going to have an added benefit to what is out there. I was hoping some of my fellow hackers would give me their best advice. You'll find out Dr k actually listens

A7ac68389a10bc99f33885e7ed0dbfe0

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on May 07, 2011
at 02:03 PM

So, what is the blog address?!?

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11488)

on May 04, 2011
at 04:48 PM

As a libertarian, I don't feel that having a medical condition should necessarily qualify someone for "compensation."

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(78467)

on May 04, 2011
at 02:45 PM

Doctors are good if you have a condition that affects work, school, and life, and you need compensation of some sorts. They are still part of a network that can help you compensating for health conditions (though I'm still waiting to get mine). Otherwise - for curing your condition, paleo is way more successful. Am I right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

535633b57c4a4940d1e913e7a12ee791

(1013)

on April 14, 2011
at 02:21 PM

we actually KNOW very little, an open mind important.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 26, 2011
at 05:18 PM

And the blog is going to happen now. I got sponsorship this past week

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 26, 2011
at 05:17 PM

To get the dose you need of l theanine you need to supplement. You can't drink that much tea and you would get caffeine toxic. Another interesting finding about l theanine to show you it's power researchers have found it changes EEG wave forms in the brain by promoting the relaxed and alert state associated with alpha waves. That makes it interesting for me as a neurosurgeon because it can sharpen mental focus and calm anxiety at the same time. Monks do this with meditation training. They are the only two ways I know to do this. Dose is 50 to 200 mgs once or twice daily

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 25, 2011
at 11:05 AM

You can supplement it directly in pill form

219ce991d8c94447870c824680de53e0

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on March 25, 2011
at 10:58 AM

Question for you Dr K, Is there a supplement for L-theanin or something one could take to help with its (and forgive me here) uptake/absorption? I have to tell you that since I no longer ingest sugar home brewed straight green tea is one of the most unappealing beverages on the planet. I would rather go wihthout then depend on that for the L-theanine. So if you have some thoughts about making the beverage more palatable please feel free to expand on that as well. By the way thanks for taking the time repsonse to what must seem like endless questions.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:39 PM

Have you read his "Treatise on Hemorrhoids" ?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 22, 2011
at 01:00 PM

my FB page is private......but that may change too. Too much personal stuff on it. I need to get another one an upload my notes to it.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:19 AM

Could you post a link to your facebook page so we can add you please :)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 22, 2011
at 03:15 AM

I may do it. It is hard to do with two practices but my patients have been asking now for three yrs. I write a ton of notes on my FB page but that would not be practical.

Aebee51dc2b93b209980a89fa4a70c1e

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on March 20, 2011
at 09:35 PM

I agree, Dr. K...I would be keenly interested in hearing more about the specific, daily applications of some of your very interesting research.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:07 PM

@ Dudley - the good Rabbi was so ahead of his time in so many ways. I never cease to be amazed at what truly expectional minds are capable of conceiving, even in the most backwards of times (something which perhaps still bears thinking about today).

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:05 PM

Great quote - sometimes I think that it would be possible write a book summing up the whole of human nature composed entirely from Shakespeare, Mark Twain and Maimonides quotations.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:01 PM

@Mari and Dr K - if a blog does get started, he's guaranteed at least 2 readers. ;)

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:00 PM

@Mari and Dr K - if a blog does get started, he's *guaranteed* at least 2 readers.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on March 20, 2011
at 08:59 PM

@ Dr K - I agree with you about the underestimation of green tea. Regarding glutamate toxicity, do you think that it's necessary to restrict so-called "natural MSG" which is found in Marmite, soy sauce, parmesan cheese e.t.c?

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on March 20, 2011
at 08:12 PM

Dr. K, some very interesting points. Have you considered starting a blog?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 08:05 PM

No eat more meat and add in seaweed or kelp.....or take a supplement. Its not just for prevention of radiation sickness! LOL

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 08:04 PM

the one side effect of drinking a ton of diet soda....is word finding issues and recall. It takes three yrs to recover. I assess it on inflammtory markers, sleep patterns,and hormonal imbalances and low to moderately vitamin D levels.

15e684f6f716f88c99f641098a6e06ca

(922)

on March 20, 2011
at 07:51 PM

Dr. K, how do you assess gut health/leakiness? Also, is N acetyl cysteine available in food sources or only via pill? I'm in my mid-30s. I drank a ton of diet soda over about a 15 year period so the warnings about long-term damage of aspartame and sucralose are a concern. Also what do you suggest re iodine conversion? Consuming less meat?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Stephen if that is how this works you should immediately head over to the hair loss thread.....I think you might be shocked at how much editting needs to be done......I went on a diatribe. LOL

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 07:43 PM

mind.....its called paleo hacks for a reason no? Its about information sharing....that is the MO no?

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on March 20, 2011
at 05:52 PM

He also spoke about the Soul being subject to health and disease, just like the body

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on March 20, 2011
at 03:50 PM

@Dr. K: hope you dont mind, I took several of your comments and added them to your answer so that people do not miss them.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:26 PM

And Kamal when you think you or your websie knows it all.......its time to close it down and go read for a while and you will find out how time in science puts alot of asphalt in your review mirror. What you thought was solid info evolves second by second. You must read and constantly swin in controversy and embrace paradox, ambiguiety and enigma. Keep an open mind and constantly challenge yourself and your beliefs. We are made stronger but challenges us. A good doctor learns more from failure than from success of his treatment, wisdom and patients.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:06 PM

glutamate toxicity = excitotxin damage = leptin resistance.......critical nodes of knowledge here. You need to understand how paleo works from a metabolic 30000 ft level. That is my life's goal.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:05 PM

There is experimental evidence that l-theanine may be protective against strokes and may protect against the glutamate toxicity associated with Alzheimer’s disease.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:05 PM

Green tea.....another very paleo thing not talked enough about here. Green tea blocks aromatase enzyme so it increases the sex steroid hormones. Moreover,L-theanine is derived from green tea and crosses the blood-brain barrier. It promotes expression of the neurotransmitter seratonin. There is evidence that l-theanine is neuroprotective, and that it supports relaxation and enhances cognitive function. It appears to decrease the transmission of stimulating neurotransmitters while promoting the transmission of calming neurotransmitters.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:28 PM

i apologize for the spelling. sticky keys. I need a new laptop. Maybe time for the ipad two.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:57 PM

Another thing I ask my younger paleo's to do is this......maximally eat to protect your brain before the age of 30.....You have to protect you NMDA channels and you must protect against glutamate toxicity in the brain. Excitotoxins destroy the real controller of our metabolism and that is the hypothalamus. Avoid aspartame MSG and sucralose and saccharin at all costs. And if you have used a ton reverse and protect what is left with N acetyl cysteine, tumeric, resveratrol in as high a doses as you can afford. Obviously this is a bigger focus in older paleos i treat but this is huge for young

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:26 PM

It must be restored because leptin resistance leads to insulin resistance then ends in you guessed it adrenal resistance and hogh cortisol levels. Stress = cortisol. High Cortisol and high insulin is what I call the grim reaper for mitochondria and telomeres

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:25 PM

The first thing you must do Bree is control your thoughts......sounds crazy but cortisol is a huge issue that flys under the radar. This is the source of the mind body connection. I usually tell patients to go buy Robin Sharma's book, The Monk who sold his ferrari" and really read it. Once you read it I think you will understand how important it is to control what you think. Once that is done then I go after the leaky gut big time.....I want to assess how "leaky" it is because that determines how aggressive I am in going after it. Then I focus on leptin resistance and leptin sensitivity.

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(12379)

on March 20, 2011
at 04:26 AM

Dr. K - how can I reduce my stress hormone levels - life is so stressful (kids, job, relationship, not to mention all the news) what do you recommend for stress reduction??

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:10 AM

So we have much to learn and that is why medicine is an art wrapped in a science.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:10 AM

But for balance my reading leads me t believe that lengthening a telomere is just one very small part in how these proteins work in our cells. For example we know there is huge differences in somatic cells and germ cell lines in humans. In non-dividing cells, other factors such as mitochondrial dysfunction, glycation and lipofuscin accumulation may be much more important for cell aging and death than replicative senescence. Mice have very long telomeres and appear to die from mitochondrial failure, cancer or other reasons not directly connected to telomere length.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:58 AM

I find it interesting that all of the major risk factors associated with cardiovascular disease (obesity, smoking, poor lipid profile, high blood pressure, diabetes and psychological stress) are associated with key markers of cellular aging (shorter telomere lengths, reduced telomerase activity and higher oxidative damage. That tells me that telomere length is a great measure of what is un paleo......in a sense. Since checking for it is too expensive I use ultra sensitive CRP as a proxy for it because we know it shortens telomeres. Cortisol is another biggie and why I am not a cross fit guy

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:44 AM

Kamal that is TA 65......from Astragalus. Geron makes it. I just wrote a big note on it for my practice on FB.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:43 AM

Tolerance is not optimization and optimization is something we should all demand because it leads to disease free states. With the food supply and chain so altered now the only way to navigate that mindfield is to test and see what you can handle and what really is optimal for you. Once optimal is sourced, then "wear" those food stuffs out.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:43 AM

Good stuff! I read an abstract about #2 recently...it was something about meditation reducing telomerase shortening (probably influenced by stress relief).

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:42 AM

Good ol' Maimonides...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on March 20, 2011
at 02:03 AM

At the moment my tongue is asking where that quote comes from :) ...

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on March 20, 2011
at 02:02 AM

At the moment my tongue is asking where that quite came from :) ...

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on March 20, 2011
at 01:58 AM

Yeah, I here ya...“Teach thy tongue to say 'I do not know,' and thou shalt progress.”

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on March 20, 2011
at 01:50 AM

Good question; we Paleos can get a bit obsessive about our pet hobby horses, whilst ignoring the known unknowns and unknown unknowns (which no doubt abound in a field as young as nutrition).

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6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11488)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:05 PM

Wow, this is the first time I've been called out to answer a question. From a doctor's perspective, I think it's important to remember:

  1. Your doctor is not the boss of you. The old school model of authoritarian medicine is dead (unless that's what you want).

  2. You (as a member of PaleoHacks) probably know much more about nutrition than your doctor. Medical training typically includes little about nutrition, much of which is wrong. The reason that luminaries such as Drs. Harris, Eades and K are so knowledgeable is because of their own personal interest and efforts beyond their training.

  3. Conventional wisdom is sometimes right, as discussed in this recent thread.The trick, of course, is figuring out when or when not to follow CW.

  4. You should be as skeptical about alternative medicine as you are of allopathic medicine. Placebo effects abound in all forms of therapy. Ask yourself whether the proposed mechanism of action makes physical sense.

  5. Medical organizations are usually late adopters of innovations. For example, I attended a Q&A at a prenatal class yesterday. The nurse who led the class, as well as all the parents-to-be, knew that 200 to 300mg per day of DHA was a good idea for pregnant and nursing mothers. Yet, neither ACOG (American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists) nor AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) has officially taken a stand on DHA supplementation during pregnancy and nursing.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11488)

on May 04, 2011
at 04:48 PM

As a libertarian, I don't feel that having a medical condition should necessarily qualify someone for "compensation."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 04, 2011
at 02:45 PM

Doctors are good if you have a condition that affects work, school, and life, and you need compensation of some sorts. They are still part of a network that can help you compensating for health conditions (though I'm still waiting to get mine). Otherwise - for curing your condition, paleo is way more successful. Am I right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on January 28, 2012
at 04:31 AM

as a libertarian i dont think is fare to tax someone and then not deliver also. so, while im a libertarian im also not a cheater.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11488)

on March 12, 2012
at 03:24 AM

@cerement, that's interesting--I hadn't heard that before.

Medium avatar

(2923)

on March 12, 2012
at 12:01 AM

I liked the idea I read somewhere of the traditional Arabic method of dealing with doctors: your doctor was effectively on retainer - he got his monthly paycheck (insurance premium) so long as you were healthy. The moment you became sick/injured/unwell, all payments stopped and did not resume until you were healthy again.

Medium avatar

(2923)

on March 13, 2012
at 02:58 PM

Haven't been able to find any references, but throughout the Crusades and up through the Middle Ages, Islamic medicine was far more advanced than Western medicine. And a method like I mentioned would provide far more incentive for your doctor to make sure you stayed healthy and lived a long life. It would also incubate a more personal relationship between doctor and patient. It seems some Western doctors are having better luck with a similarly styled concierge service, but at the risk of charges of elitism and cutting off patients who can't afford their services ...

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:34 AM

  1. The more meat you eat the more iodine you are required to have to convert T4 to T3.......a big reason for plateaus....

  2. There seems to be a strong positive correlation between high levels of stress hormones and free-radical damage, and both of these correlate negatively with level of telomerase expression and lead to serious disease states.

  3. It is not enough to avoid omega 6's grains dairy and fructose and still think this is paleo.......the situation of the host immunity and evolving gut health is always the most important thing to long term viability. If that is intact the host can get away with a lot more than one thinks.

  4. You need feedback from your body to know what paleo really means for your internal metabolic machinery and this answer does not translate to a population......it has a very custom effect. We can draw conclusions from 30000 ft view but there are no rules on what defines paleo for any one person. Context matters.

  5. Green tea.....another very paleo thing not talked enough about here. Green tea blocks aromatase enzyme so it increases the sex steroid hormones. Moreover,L-theanine is derived from green tea and crosses the blood-brain barrier. It promotes expression of the neurotransmitter seratonin. There is evidence that l-theanine is neuroprotective, and that it supports relaxation and enhances cognitive function. It appears to decrease the transmission of stimulating neurotransmitters while promoting the transmission of calming neurotransmitters.

  6. Another thing I ask my younger paleo's to do is this......maximally eat to protect your brain before the age of 30.....You have to protect you NMDA channels and you must protect against glutamate toxicity in the brain. Excitotoxins destroy the real controller of our metabolism and that is the hypothalamus. Avoid aspartame MSG and sucralose and saccharin at all costs. And if you have used a ton reverse and protect what is left with N acetyl cysteine, tumeric, resveratrol in as high a doses as you can afford. Obviously this is a bigger focus in older paleos i treat but this is huge for young

  7. I find it interesting that all of the major risk factors associated with cardiovascular disease (obesity, smoking, poor lipid profile, high blood pressure, diabetes and psychological stress) are associated with key markers of cellular aging (shorter telomere lengths, reduced telomerase activity and higher oxidative damage. That tells me that telomere length is a great measure of what is un paleo......in a sense. Since checking for it is too expensive I use ultra sensitive CRP as a proxy for it because we know it shortens telomeres. Cortisol is another biggie and why I am not a cross fit guy

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:44 AM

Kamal that is TA 65......from Astragalus. Geron makes it. I just wrote a big note on it for my practice on FB.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:00 PM

@Mari and Dr K - if a blog does get started, he's *guaranteed* at least 2 readers.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:26 PM

It must be restored because leptin resistance leads to insulin resistance then ends in you guessed it adrenal resistance and hogh cortisol levels. Stress = cortisol. High Cortisol and high insulin is what I call the grim reaper for mitochondria and telomeres

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:50 PM

@Dr. K: hope you dont mind, I took several of your comments and added them to your answer so that people do not miss them.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:06 PM

glutamate toxicity = excitotxin damage = leptin resistance.......critical nodes of knowledge here. You need to understand how paleo works from a metabolic 30000 ft level. That is my life's goal.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:25 PM

The first thing you must do Bree is control your thoughts......sounds crazy but cortisol is a huge issue that flys under the radar. This is the source of the mind body connection. I usually tell patients to go buy Robin Sharma's book, The Monk who sold his ferrari" and really read it. Once you read it I think you will understand how important it is to control what you think. Once that is done then I go after the leaky gut big time.....I want to assess how "leaky" it is because that determines how aggressive I am in going after it. Then I focus on leptin resistance and leptin sensitivity.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:43 AM

Tolerance is not optimization and optimization is something we should all demand because it leads to disease free states. With the food supply and chain so altered now the only way to navigate that mindfield is to test and see what you can handle and what really is optimal for you. Once optimal is sourced, then "wear" those food stuffs out.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:05 PM

There is experimental evidence that l-theanine may be protective against strokes and may protect against the glutamate toxicity associated with Alzheimer’s disease.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:26 PM

And Kamal when you think you or your websie knows it all.......its time to close it down and go read for a while and you will find out how time in science puts alot of asphalt in your review mirror. What you thought was solid info evolves second by second. You must read and constantly swin in controversy and embrace paradox, ambiguiety and enigma. Keep an open mind and constantly challenge yourself and your beliefs. We are made stronger but challenges us. A good doctor learns more from failure than from success of his treatment, wisdom and patients.

15e684f6f716f88c99f641098a6e06ca

(922)

on March 20, 2011
at 07:51 PM

Dr. K, how do you assess gut health/leakiness? Also, is N acetyl cysteine available in food sources or only via pill? I'm in my mid-30s. I drank a ton of diet soda over about a 15 year period so the warnings about long-term damage of aspartame and sucralose are a concern. Also what do you suggest re iodine conversion? Consuming less meat?

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:43 AM

Good stuff! I read an abstract about #2 recently...it was something about meditation reducing telomerase shortening (probably influenced by stress relief).

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:01 PM

@Mari and Dr K - if a blog does get started, he's guaranteed at least 2 readers. ;)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:58 AM

I find it interesting that all of the major risk factors associated with cardiovascular disease (obesity, smoking, poor lipid profile, high blood pressure, diabetes and psychological stress) are associated with key markers of cellular aging (shorter telomere lengths, reduced telomerase activity and higher oxidative damage. That tells me that telomere length is a great measure of what is un paleo......in a sense. Since checking for it is too expensive I use ultra sensitive CRP as a proxy for it because we know it shortens telomeres. Cortisol is another biggie and why I am not a cross fit guy

Medium avatar

(12379)

on March 20, 2011
at 04:26 AM

Dr. K - how can I reduce my stress hormone levels - life is so stressful (kids, job, relationship, not to mention all the news) what do you recommend for stress reduction??

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Stephen if that is how this works you should immediately head over to the hair loss thread.....I think you might be shocked at how much editting needs to be done......I went on a diatribe. LOL

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:57 PM

Another thing I ask my younger paleo's to do is this......maximally eat to protect your brain before the age of 30.....You have to protect you NMDA channels and you must protect against glutamate toxicity in the brain. Excitotoxins destroy the real controller of our metabolism and that is the hypothalamus. Avoid aspartame MSG and sucralose and saccharin at all costs. And if you have used a ton reverse and protect what is left with N acetyl cysteine, tumeric, resveratrol in as high a doses as you can afford. Obviously this is a bigger focus in older paleos i treat but this is huge for young

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 02:28 PM

i apologize for the spelling. sticky keys. I need a new laptop. Maybe time for the ipad two.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 08:05 PM

No eat more meat and add in seaweed or kelp.....or take a supplement. Its not just for prevention of radiation sickness! LOL

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on March 20, 2011
at 08:04 PM

the one side effect of drinking a ton of diet soda....is word finding issues and recall. It takes three yrs to recover. I assess it on inflammtory markers, sleep patterns,and hormonal imbalances and low to moderately vitamin D levels.

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(7314)

on March 20, 2011
at 08:12 PM

Dr. K, some very interesting points. Have you considered starting a blog?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:10 AM

So we have much to learn and that is why medicine is an art wrapped in a science.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:10 AM

But for balance my reading leads me t believe that lengthening a telomere is just one very small part in how these proteins work in our cells. For example we know there is huge differences in somatic cells and germ cell lines in humans. In non-dividing cells, other factors such as mitochondrial dysfunction, glycation and lipofuscin accumulation may be much more important for cell aging and death than replicative senescence. Mice have very long telomeres and appear to die from mitochondrial failure, cancer or other reasons not directly connected to telomere length.

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on March 20, 2011
at 08:59 PM

@ Dr K - I agree with you about the underestimation of green tea. Regarding glutamate toxicity, do you think that it's necessary to restrict so-called "natural MSG" which is found in Marmite, soy sauce, parmesan cheese e.t.c?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 03:05 PM

Green tea.....another very paleo thing not talked enough about here. Green tea blocks aromatase enzyme so it increases the sex steroid hormones. Moreover,L-theanine is derived from green tea and crosses the blood-brain barrier. It promotes expression of the neurotransmitter seratonin. There is evidence that l-theanine is neuroprotective, and that it supports relaxation and enhances cognitive function. It appears to decrease the transmission of stimulating neurotransmitters while promoting the transmission of calming neurotransmitters.

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(25477)

on March 20, 2011
at 07:43 PM

mind.....its called paleo hacks for a reason no? Its about information sharing....that is the MO no?

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(1982)

on March 20, 2011
at 09:35 PM

I agree, Dr. K...I would be keenly interested in hearing more about the specific, daily applications of some of your very interesting research.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 22, 2011
at 03:15 AM

I may do it. It is hard to do with two practices but my patients have been asking now for three yrs. I write a ton of notes on my FB page but that would not be practical.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 22, 2011
at 01:00 PM

my FB page is private......but that may change too. Too much personal stuff on it. I need to get another one an upload my notes to it.

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:19 AM

Could you post a link to your facebook page so we can add you please :)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 25, 2011
at 11:05 AM

You can supplement it directly in pill form

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 26, 2011
at 05:17 PM

To get the dose you need of l theanine you need to supplement. You can't drink that much tea and you would get caffeine toxic. Another interesting finding about l theanine to show you it's power researchers have found it changes EEG wave forms in the brain by promoting the relaxed and alert state associated with alpha waves. That makes it interesting for me as a neurosurgeon because it can sharpen mental focus and calm anxiety at the same time. Monks do this with meditation training. They are the only two ways I know to do this. Dose is 50 to 200 mgs once or twice daily

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(457)

on March 25, 2011
at 10:58 AM

Question for you Dr K, Is there a supplement for L-theanin or something one could take to help with its (and forgive me here) uptake/absorption? I have to tell you that since I no longer ingest sugar home brewed straight green tea is one of the most unappealing beverages on the planet. I would rather go wihthout then depend on that for the L-theanine. So if you have some thoughts about making the beverage more palatable please feel free to expand on that as well. By the way thanks for taking the time repsonse to what must seem like endless questions.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on March 26, 2011
at 05:18 PM

And the blog is going to happen now. I got sponsorship this past week

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(165)

on May 07, 2011
at 02:03 PM

So, what is the blog address?!?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on May 07, 2011
at 05:50 PM

It's coming. Spoke to the techinicals people to get the site up and going. I think it's going to have an added benefit to what is out there. I was hoping some of my fellow hackers would give me their best advice. You'll find out Dr k actually listens

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(2231)

on May 31, 2011
at 04:06 PM

is the blog coming??? where are you a doctor at by the way i would love you to be my doctor!!!

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on August 01, 2011
at 03:11 AM

Cortisol is another biggie and why I am not a cross fit guy

Can you elaborate on this, please?

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