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celebrity doctors and writers

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created August 26, 2010 at 2:08 AM

I don't mean doctors of any celebrities, but rather doctors who are somewhat of celebrities - on talk shows, publishing popular books, and writing articles for popular news portals. I don't watch tv, but I somehow recognize names like Oz, Gupta or Mercola.

Some of them are crooks, some of them attention seekers, some of them are good. I don't feel I have enough of a strong science background at the moment to always be able critically judge an article if it makes sense or not. Sometimes I just don't want to lose my time going through something if the author is not worthy or some crazy saturated fat fearmonger.

So my question is - what famous doctors/nutrition/science writers we see/read around would you recommend always, which ones are generally solid science but not exactly paleo, and from which ones we should run away as fast as possible b/c they are disgrace to their ancestors?

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on August 26, 2010
at 08:09 PM

I am not looking for a religious guru, am not planning on blind following anyone. But I know enough what I dont' know, to ask others for their experiences with various science writers. Who has a good reputation of an honest, solid scientist (even if there are differences in opinions), and who is known to cut corners but not making it obvious for a lay person (like me).

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

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on August 26, 2010
at 08:06 PM

These suggestions are very good. And I would have them in mind, my question was more about easy way to not even get to low quality articles. I don't have the serious science background to spot a crook right away, and simply have not enough time to analyze each and every article I read. Sometimes I just want to learn, not attack all the time critically. I am not dumb, but my strengths are not in science, forgot too much since high school. I dont' trust blindly, but I wanted to know if someone has a good reputation of being honest and strong in solid science and not in pseudo-science myths.

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on August 26, 2010
at 08:01 PM

I never would follow anyone blindly. I can think, but my strength is human studies, Bible and sociology, not science. I do have brains, but not enough time to engage in deep analysis of an article when I work full time and have so many other things to do. I have dr. Eades on my google reader, and I've read their books. Good stuff.

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on August 26, 2010
at 07:54 PM

I never would follow anyone blindly. I can think, but my strength is human studies, Bible and sociology, not science. I do have brains, but not enough time to engage in deep analysis of an article when I work full time and have so many other things to do. I have dr. Eades on my google reader, and I've read their books. Good stuff.

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on August 26, 2010
at 05:17 PM

Kurt Harris on Mehmet Oz:

"The idea of a cardiac surgeon as some natural authority on diet is even more absurd than cardiologists in that role. And what kind of ass wears scrubs outside the OR or interventional suite? ??? I look at him and all I can think is BIOHAZARD."

Classic stuff. Amusingly cutting, while still getting to the essence of the matter. From the comments to Michael Eades's post on Oz, which is also good.

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on August 26, 2010
at 02:51 AM

I think it's helpful, when reading studies, to think about:

  • The sample size
  • Correlation not being causation
  • Who sponsors the study
  • If there is confounding (mixed variables that make correlation irrelevant)
  • What your personal experience has been

Making a list of who to trust, and who not to trust, is a little silly, because you can get pigeonholed into believing whatever some given person spews, rather than actually making your own opinions.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

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on August 26, 2010
at 08:06 PM

These suggestions are very good. And I would have them in mind, my question was more about easy way to not even get to low quality articles. I don't have the serious science background to spot a crook right away, and simply have not enough time to analyze each and every article I read. Sometimes I just want to learn, not attack all the time critically. I am not dumb, but my strengths are not in science, forgot too much since high school. I dont' trust blindly, but I wanted to know if someone has a good reputation of being honest and strong in solid science and not in pseudo-science myths.

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on August 26, 2010
at 06:51 PM

I would suggest you look at Drs. Mike and Mary Dan Eades. Never follow anyone blindly, but read what he, in particular, says about HOW to decide what's right, or what's wrong (you can Google his blog). Of course he has his own point of view, and he's not shy about stating it, but at least he doesn't mind explaining the reasons for coming to his conclusions, and I have found, after reading him over the years, he seems to be more intellectually honest than most that I have seen.

Having said that, I would never just do as he says without what I felt like was good reason.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on August 26, 2010
at 08:01 PM

I never would follow anyone blindly. I can think, but my strength is human studies, Bible and sociology, not science. I do have brains, but not enough time to engage in deep analysis of an article when I work full time and have so many other things to do. I have dr. Eades on my google reader, and I've read their books. Good stuff.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on August 26, 2010
at 07:54 PM

I never would follow anyone blindly. I can think, but my strength is human studies, Bible and sociology, not science. I do have brains, but not enough time to engage in deep analysis of an article when I work full time and have so many other things to do. I have dr. Eades on my google reader, and I've read their books. Good stuff.

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on August 26, 2010
at 04:00 AM

It's hard to get famous without spewing the mainstream stuff. Seems like most I hear are just uncritically repeating the same basic mantra of what is commonly accepted. Also, I don't think there is anyone I will ALWAYS trust. Everyone is wrong sometimes. Everyone has at least something I would probably disagree with. In the long run, some of what they say will turn out wrong just as some of what I say will turn out wrong.

I do have a few basic guidelines. I tend to distrust those who claim to have all the answers. Many of those people also seem often intent on critizing others while at the same time being vague on giving out any really useful advice themselves. Instead they seem more interested in making others think they know a lot. THese people are the types that love technical jargen and often hide inside a miasma of same. Don't trust these types.

I also don't trust those who accept what they are told without critical thinking. All fields are full of those. They sign onto an idea and then defend it to the last. I don't trust those people, because like I mentioned, I think all of us are wrong sometimes and it's best we be on guard for that as much as possible. People who accept what they are told without critical thinking are often good hearted and kind people who only want to help, but that doesn't change the fact that they are often manipulated by others and are often wrong.

All that being said, one of the few people in the general nutrition/food field that I liked was Atkins and what he said originally about eating whole foods like meat and veggies and not intaking too much sugar and starches. The science may not have been as available then as it was now but he had a good instinct and experience for what worked and what was healthy. That was before the Atkins company made all those artificial products and corrupted the original message to be more about carbs and less about nutrition. I give Atkins a lot of credit because he was swimming against the popular stream for most of his career. It was only at the end of his life that he saw a few years attention from the mainstream and even then, he was excoriated by many.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on August 26, 2010
at 08:09 PM

I am not looking for a religious guru, am not planning on blind following anyone. But I know enough what I dont' know, to ask others for their experiences with various science writers. Who has a good reputation of an honest, solid scientist (even if there are differences in opinions), and who is known to cut corners but not making it obvious for a lay person (like me).

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on August 26, 2010
at 02:48 AM

Mehmet Oz is a vegan, I think. Or if he doesn't practice it himself he at least promotes it as a weight loss diet for others.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2009/11/04/20091104sr-rocco1105.html

To add to that he promotes alternative medicine theories like energy fields and acupuncture.

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