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Where is the point of dimishing returns?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 03, 2013 at 12:25 AM

At what point did you consider your research into Paleo complete?

Lately I feel like I've hit a point of diminishing returns. I don't think I can read one more Paleo book. I'm happy with the knowledge I've gained, but unless I decide to make a career out of wellness then it seems like it's time to execute on what I've learned and turn my attention elsewhere.

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on March 05, 2013
at 01:41 PM

Actually, I think that's the point, right? That it becomes "just life." Now let's get up from our computers and go live it. Primal Connection by Mark Sisson is one last read if you want more about lifestyle besides diet.

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on March 05, 2013
at 07:33 AM

sorry one more thing...i dont think our research is ever completed. WEre all unique and need to experiment and fine tune on ourselves..and also to draw from various fonts of info. Any good dr/practioner/healer would never close their minds to conflicting views.. and newfound info. We re learning new things about nutrtition all the time so theres always more to learn and to consider.

89fa2da4805b0b4e54b77a5a20a2e206

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on March 05, 2013
at 07:29 AM

which begs the question .. WHY AM I AWAKE AND STILL READING ON THIS SITE..:) .. i should go get a good paleo sleep

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on March 03, 2013
at 10:43 PM

great...another site to absorb. i may prefer /r/keto

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on March 03, 2013
at 04:04 PM

r/paleo - check it out.

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on March 03, 2013
at 02:20 PM

I haven't explored reddit much yet, where do you hang out there?

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on March 03, 2013
at 02:19 PM

Interesting point about relocation - buying and cooking real food is already so tough, the idea of having to learn a new location terrifies me. I am also excited to work on (3) once I've hit a healthy weight. Right now throwing a lot of supplements at the problem without testing.

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on March 03, 2013
at 12:40 AM

The point of diminishing returns is where you don't feel you can read one more Paleo book and you're happy with the knowledge you've gained. :P

Take a break, live life, and peek back again in a month or more to see if there's any new info.

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on March 03, 2013
at 01:21 AM

Justin: You've achieved the goal: the ability to maintain health with time to do whatever else it is you love. Congratulations!

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on March 05, 2013
at 01:46 PM

Authors realize this too. That's why some forward thinking authors have written books to get us to think beyond the "diet" part of Paleo and enter into a Paleo lifestyle. Two that I can think of right now are:

1) The Primal Connection by Mark Sisson of Mark's Daily Apple

2) The Paleo Coach by Jason Seib

Either way, I don't think the intention of all this was to have us sit in front of the computer all the time and read. We need to get out there and live. Eat well & go play!

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on March 05, 2013
at 07:27 AM

...around the corner from the point of no return i suppose yes ..practice what you/we preach and walk the walk and talk so to speak. Information overload is rampant these days...we're all experts to a certain extent arent we. And we all have the studies to cherry pick from to back up our claims. "We all" being all the opposing camps//veg vs paleo ..paleo vs vegetarian .vegetarian vs vegan etc etc...We could go bannananaasss reading all the contradictory info. and speaking of bananas....

we can sometimes get militant too in our ideologies take a break ...eat some healthy good whole foods.. dont have any junk.. stay away from wheatand sugar.. and just chill -and put your theories to practice peace :)

89fa2da4805b0b4e54b77a5a20a2e206

(2097)

on March 05, 2013
at 07:33 AM

sorry one more thing...i dont think our research is ever completed. WEre all unique and need to experiment and fine tune on ourselves..and also to draw from various fonts of info. Any good dr/practioner/healer would never close their minds to conflicting views.. and newfound info. We re learning new things about nutrtition all the time so theres always more to learn and to consider.

89fa2da4805b0b4e54b77a5a20a2e206

(2097)

on March 05, 2013
at 07:29 AM

which begs the question .. WHY AM I AWAKE AND STILL READING ON THIS SITE..:) .. i should go get a good paleo sleep

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on March 03, 2013
at 04:58 AM

In terms of theory, it seems the major diets are converging to consensus on the core topics.

In practice, things still are a mess. Templates still missing. With a system of customizable priorities - for instance, what is the marginal effect of food X at price level Y? The answer will differ by location due to differential cost and the foods available in each region. Nutritional software probably would be helpful.

Paleo needs an authoritative text that is regularly updated. A collaborative text, not a single author text. For obvious reasons.

For myself, I have already past the point of diminishing returns and near zero returns. I'm tempted to step away for a year and simply improve execution. In terms of personal situation:

(1) I need to do the fundamentals well, firstly. To maintain a clean core diet. Do resistance training. Tabata. This is 98% of it. If I'm not doing the fundamentals, the frills are an expensive mockery.

(2) Personally, I expect to relocate in the next year. I will thereupon encounter a new set of local foods and prices. And I will not purchase hardware such a rowing machine [for Tabata] until then.

(3) If I find I am able to adhere conscientiously to the fundamentals, only then will I take the next step of expensive optimization. That is, to get the custom equipment I have in mind, to test the supplements, track effects in regular lab tests. To get that final 2%.

(4) I await the issuance of a nutritional video set that explains the relevant processes at the molecular level. Until then, I'm acutely aware of my reliance on educated guesswork and argument from authority.

(5) I await the prison experiments to receive the final word on nutrition. Some of you might recall my popular post on this subject. Without a serious commitment to better experiments (not necessarily prison - I jest), nutritional science will never come to close.

705e66484ed64fe8e188123de398413e

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on March 03, 2013
at 02:19 PM

Interesting point about relocation - buying and cooking real food is already so tough, the idea of having to learn a new location terrifies me. I am also excited to work on (3) once I've hit a healthy weight. Right now throwing a lot of supplements at the problem without testing.

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on March 03, 2013
at 03:35 AM

Diminishing returns isn't no returns!

There's far more books than there need to be - part of the marketplace.

I keep track of a few blogs and websites like this- not because of any concern about diminishing returns, but because doing so maintains awareness, interest, and dedication to my lifestyle!

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on March 03, 2013
at 01:14 AM

haha, funny, i'm there. i can't even bring myself to comment on here or reddit everyday. i need a new obsession :( not that i'm giving up on paleo, but the honeymoon phase is certainly past. now it's just life; not passion.

C5c1073ffc65c5b737408d1d6cc68e86

(610)

on March 05, 2013
at 01:41 PM

Actually, I think that's the point, right? That it becomes "just life." Now let's get up from our computers and go live it. Primal Connection by Mark Sisson is one last read if you want more about lifestyle besides diet.

705e66484ed64fe8e188123de398413e

(1013)

on March 03, 2013
at 10:43 PM

great...another site to absorb. i may prefer /r/keto

705e66484ed64fe8e188123de398413e

(1013)

on March 03, 2013
at 02:20 PM

I haven't explored reddit much yet, where do you hang out there?

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

(2668)

on March 03, 2013
at 04:04 PM

r/paleo - check it out.

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