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Tips for IBS/IBD?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 19, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Hi!

I do have an IBS for two years now and have seen every doctor around. My inflammation parameter are high and the flora is not the best, but no medicine does help, so I decided to go paleo some weeks ago. Not much change.

Has anyolse these problem and/or tips for me?

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on March 31, 2013
at 09:56 AM

+1, This is a great piece of advice

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on March 31, 2013
at 09:55 AM

I'd stik with this, gut health is not something that you can regain with just several weeks. I have had very bad digestions in the past and seen a lot of improvement once I reduced (not completely removed) grains and general dense carb overload (less than 150gr made the difference), and went even better when got totally rid of them. But the whole thing took more than a year, in fact I didn't carefully got track of this, just noticed it recently and connected things.

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on March 17, 2013
at 02:11 PM

scd contains fruits and honey since they are simple sugars. it is the complex carbs that aren't allowed.

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on February 03, 2013
at 01:55 AM

Early AM - 2 eggs and a muffin made from coconut flour and almond flour mid-AM - a one quart greenn smoothie with several veggies and a very modest amount of fruit (like a handful of berries) Lunch - steamed veggies, 5-6 ounces of meat or offal, homemade sauerkraut mid-PM - snack on walnuts, brazilnuts and such Dinner - fish and steamed veggies I cook with coconut oil or ghee. I drink tea, almond milk and wine. So my carb intake is light but not VLC. I do hope to add rice or potatoes at dinner if my digestive tract doesn't complain.

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:19 AM

What does a typical day look like food-wise Lazza? I've started cutting out starchy foods and noticed a slight improvement but am struggling to get enough carbs, do you eat fruit?

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on February 02, 2013
at 11:25 PM

i've been making fresh coconut milk and using that for yogurt. it works pretty well and i use it in smoothies.

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on January 20, 2013
at 02:23 PM

same with me, i love dairy and i'm not even lactose intolerant, but anything with milk will kill me :(

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on January 20, 2013
at 02:22 PM

isn't honey a carb too, in form of sugar?

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on January 20, 2013
at 12:58 PM

No. Unfortunately I am extremely sensitive to dairy (casein, I believe). It causes my psoriasis to flare badly, which is unfortunate since I love dairy including yogurt. Because of its probiotic value I certainly would consume homemade yogurt if I could.

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on January 20, 2013
at 05:11 AM

lazza, did you make the SCD yogurt. i've been following paleo/scd for 6 months now but didn't start seeing improvement until a few weeks ago when i started the yogurt. it's helped with my pain and bleeding.

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on January 19, 2013
at 07:37 PM

Get a hydrogen-methane SIBO test done. See if you have it.

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on January 19, 2013
at 05:32 PM

thank you SO MUCH! honestly i have no idea about this whole micronutrition stuff, but i take fish oil (propably the crappy ones) and probiotics (omni biotic power) at the moment. what else would you recommend? as far as i know my CRP and IgE levels are up - so still take vitamin d and magnesium?

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on January 19, 2013
at 04:43 PM

Vitamin D is a good anti inflammatory agent when 25(OH)D levels are raised to 50ng/ml 125nmol/l or above.

Vitamin D requires MAGNESIUM to activate Calcitriol (hormonal form) so use that as well. If you think your digestive system is so inflammed you're not absorbing micronutrients then both vitamin D and magnesium can be absorbed trans-dermally. You can soak in a bath of epsom or dead sea salts for the magnesium and you can either add the contents of a vit d capsule to massage oil (or use Vit d drops) or use a UVB tanning lamp.

Another anti-inflammatory you are almost certainly short of is omega 3 EPA and DHA. Fish oil supplements are fine but there are algae alternatives for veggie/vegans (at a price) Omega 3 is an anti-inflammatory agent in it's own right but it's also a Vitamin D receptor ligand so will also improve the actions of Vitamin D3.

Don't forget there is 400X more melatonin produced in the gut than from the pineal gland so getting good quality sleep and doing everything possible to improve melatonin production will be useful.

Distribution, function and physiological role of melatonin in the lower gut

It's also worth thinking about probiotics Probiotic supplement (lactobacillus acidophilus and bulgaricus) utility in the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome

It would be worth signing up for the American Gut - what's in your gut? Project.

There are some ideas here for improving your gut microbiome

006f2e9b763058ff2332681c206563e4

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on January 19, 2013
at 05:32 PM

thank you SO MUCH! honestly i have no idea about this whole micronutrition stuff, but i take fish oil (propably the crappy ones) and probiotics (omni biotic power) at the moment. what else would you recommend? as far as i know my CRP and IgE levels are up - so still take vitamin d and magnesium?

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on March 31, 2013
at 09:56 AM

+1, This is a great piece of advice

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on February 03, 2013
at 04:46 AM

You can't just eat "regular" paleo with IBS. There's a lot more to it. Some of the best paleo foods will really irritate IBS.

http://www.eat-real-food-paleodietitian.com/paleo-diet-and-ibs.html

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on January 19, 2013
at 10:45 PM

Using paleo I've been able to reduce my meds considerably for my ulcerative colitis. I could probably cut meds completely if I could totally eliminate stress. During months of very little stress I have been med free on most days. But be sure to avoid nightshades, do not cheat with occasional gluten snacks, and avoid sweet things. It is worth reading Breaking the Vicious Cycle as you can apply the SCD to your paleo diet. In there you will learn that the only sweet you can eat is honey. Goodbye fruit and paleo treats.

006f2e9b763058ff2332681c206563e4

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on January 20, 2013
at 02:22 PM

isn't honey a carb too, in form of sugar?

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on March 17, 2013
at 02:11 PM

scd contains fruits and honey since they are simple sugars. it is the complex carbs that aren't allowed.

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on January 19, 2013
at 09:20 PM

I had severe IBS for several years. I'm now 100% better. What worked:

1) Eliminating H. pylori (..I underwent the conventional antibiotic treatment).

2) Doing the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD), which is essentially Paleo but starchy veggies (potatoes, sweet potatoes) are strictly forbidden. During the first several weeks by bowels were rather ... turbulent. But afterward the improvement to my IBS was remarkable.

Therefore I suggest getting tested for H. pylori and reading online resources on SCD. But let me emphasize: recovering from IBS can be a long road with many bumps. Patience and perseverance are vital.

Best of success.

_Lazza

PS - a great many people have recovered from IBS and IBD (Crohn's, ..) using SCD. Essentially the diet enables healing of intestinal walls, and starves out pathogens. Eating homemade sauerkraut and/or experimenting with probiotics might be helpful too.

006f2e9b763058ff2332681c206563e4

(252)

on January 20, 2013
at 02:23 PM

same with me, i love dairy and i'm not even lactose intolerant, but anything with milk will kill me :(

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on January 20, 2013
at 12:58 PM

No. Unfortunately I am extremely sensitive to dairy (casein, I believe). It causes my psoriasis to flare badly, which is unfortunate since I love dairy including yogurt. Because of its probiotic value I certainly would consume homemade yogurt if I could.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on January 20, 2013
at 05:11 AM

lazza, did you make the SCD yogurt. i've been following paleo/scd for 6 months now but didn't start seeing improvement until a few weeks ago when i started the yogurt. it's helped with my pain and bleeding.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on February 02, 2013
at 11:25 PM

i've been making fresh coconut milk and using that for yogurt. it works pretty well and i use it in smoothies.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on February 03, 2013
at 12:19 AM

What does a typical day look like food-wise Lazza? I've started cutting out starchy foods and noticed a slight improvement but am struggling to get enough carbs, do you eat fruit?

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on February 03, 2013
at 01:55 AM

Early AM - 2 eggs and a muffin made from coconut flour and almond flour mid-AM - a one quart greenn smoothie with several veggies and a very modest amount of fruit (like a handful of berries) Lunch - steamed veggies, 5-6 ounces of meat or offal, homemade sauerkraut mid-PM - snack on walnuts, brazilnuts and such Dinner - fish and steamed veggies I cook with coconut oil or ghee. I drink tea, almond milk and wine. So my carb intake is light but not VLC. I do hope to add rice or potatoes at dinner if my digestive tract doesn't complain.

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