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Paleo Summit Hack-a-thon: Allison Siebecker, 3/2

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 02, 2012 at 2:58 AM

What: The Paleo Summit (see also this post)

Who: Dr. Allison Siebecker ??? Naturopathic Doctor

Topic: Paleo Digestive Troubleshooting. The Paleo Diet removes common gut-irritating foods like grains, dairy, and legumes from your plate. But what should you do if your digestive symptoms persist? Dr. Siebecker ??? an expert on IBS and Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth ??? shows you how to tweak your diet to suit your personal digestive needs.

What did you think of this presentation?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on March 05, 2012
at 05:45 PM

Dean -I have had my thyroid checked, slightly low, no autoimmune issues. I am taking some glandular thyroid and monitoring my temps. PrimallyKosher - I have had every single test you can imagine, including the endoscopy and colonoscopy. They don't check for SIBO when they do those procedures. I had healthy test results from those tests. I also took a fructose breath test and it was normal.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on March 03, 2012
at 09:32 PM

You only did test for SIBO with a breath test? No upper gi, colonoscopy?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on March 03, 2012
at 02:18 PM

Found it difficult to listen to her presentation, she sounded like she called in from a cell phone with terrible reception. Didn't have the patience to sit through the whole thing.

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

(1520)

on March 03, 2012
at 01:30 PM

If you think it's connected to your thyroid, have you had it tested? Treated?

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on March 03, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Thorax spine controls houses the vagus nerve? I have scolosis in my lumbar I wonder if that slows digestion.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 09:52 PM

The ironic (and sad) thing about this whole issue, is that the Paul ST John People that invented this whole protocol are as clueless to the power of the synergistic power of both NMT and Paleo interventions. as the Paleo crowd is to Paul's work. The whole St. John crew eats like SHIT! and all their clients eat like SHIT (except my wife and I.) They don't even know "a diamond, if they held it in their hands." They are not open (yet) to the Paleo interventions. Boo hoo!:(

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 09:44 PM

I just got over such a problem. Around the Superbowl I hurt my back squatting.My digestion slowly deteriorated and I developed pollen allergies.I got quessy after each meal. Like an idiot I didn't pull strings and get my regular therapist to move my appointment up. So I suffered and got worse. Soon one missed workout became two. I started blaming my chelation for aggrevating my digestion(It is rather harsh on it) But then my regular appointment come around and voila, the next day I was back to my normal great digestion and back at the gym.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 09:36 PM

Dear Senneth, Please try to find an experienced neuromuscular therapist in your area. My digestive problems come and go( quickly and dramaticly) after treating vagus nerve issues, t8-t11 issues in the back, and visceral organ congestion. One session will show you the power of the work. (You will want to do more after the first.)There is a huge physical component to digestive issues. From my experience its 50% of the problem and solution. I will be glad to help you find a good and reasonably priced therapist in your area.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 02, 2012
at 08:44 PM

Yes, seeds/nuts IMHO are for people who have healthy guts. They can irritate the guts of people who do not. And most people with constipation do not have healthy guts.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 02, 2012
at 08:43 PM

wow, sorry you are going through all that. let us know how things go for you.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 02, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Hope it works out for you, Senneth!

7dc950fc76a046048e683d2a27dced37

on March 02, 2012
at 05:05 PM

Wow. Liking the content of this (just started listening), but oy, the audio is tough. Guessing that's why there's a complimentary transcript you can download on this page! More later...

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on March 02, 2012
at 06:56 PM

I don't like that she recommends nuts and seeds for constipation, supposedly because of the fiber. My experiences, and I believe many will agree with this.

Fortunately she says other things I like more, like :

Sean: A lot of Paleo people eat tons of vegetables. And this is actually part of the Paleo Diet. Is there any problem with that at all?
Dr. Siebecker: Yes! This is the thing that is really shocking to so many people. There??s not many people in our culture who think there??s anything wrong with eating vegetables, you know? That??s like the one thing everyone agrees on!

Honestly, I loved her presenation. She really talks amazingly well, she definitely knows her stuff and has some interesting suggestions, like using honey or pure glucose. Definitely good stuff. She's clearly not dogmatic, has experience... You can be certain I am gonna try out that honey and glucose. Maybe it'll help me sleep well...

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 02, 2012
at 08:44 PM

Yes, seeds/nuts IMHO are for people who have healthy guts. They can irritate the guts of people who do not. And most people with constipation do not have healthy guts.

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F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on March 02, 2012
at 08:38 PM

I guess that her speech struck a cord with me mostly because I have been there and done that. She was a great speaker, this is more of my personal feedback on her treatment approach rather than her speech.

I have been diagnosed with SIBO via a breath test. I have tried EVERYTHING, including 3 of the 4 treatments she recommends on her webpage.

-The Mark Pimentel protocols she references were USELESS for me. I have taken two rounds of rifaximin at the suggested dose's and one of Neomycin. No effect, not even a little, except on my wallet. Even worse I read that Pimentel, the doctor/researcher has his hand in the honeypot for that drug. (Here is the article).

-I have also tried the SCD diet for a lengthy stretch and it did absolutely nothing. I even labored over making that stupid 24hr yogurt. Blech! (another hit to the wallet)

Now the bottom line is that she wouldn't recommend those methods if she wasn't seeing success with her clients.

In my view, its more about finding the cause's and treating those. So what I am doing now is trying the Ray Peat thing (Since August). Peat says that having chronically low thyroid allows bad bacteria to slowly creep up the digestive system, and a sure sign is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. Treat that thyroid and you reverse that process is the theory. I am still working on it.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 02, 2012
at 08:43 PM

wow, sorry you are going through all that. let us know how things go for you.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 09:52 PM

The ironic (and sad) thing about this whole issue, is that the Paul ST John People that invented this whole protocol are as clueless to the power of the synergistic power of both NMT and Paleo interventions. as the Paleo crowd is to Paul's work. The whole St. John crew eats like SHIT! and all their clients eat like SHIT (except my wife and I.) They don't even know "a diamond, if they held it in their hands." They are not open (yet) to the Paleo interventions. Boo hoo!:(

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 09:44 PM

I just got over such a problem. Around the Superbowl I hurt my back squatting.My digestion slowly deteriorated and I developed pollen allergies.I got quessy after each meal. Like an idiot I didn't pull strings and get my regular therapist to move my appointment up. So I suffered and got worse. Soon one missed workout became two. I started blaming my chelation for aggrevating my digestion(It is rather harsh on it) But then my regular appointment come around and voila, the next day I was back to my normal great digestion and back at the gym.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on March 03, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Thorax spine controls houses the vagus nerve? I have scolosis in my lumbar I wonder if that slows digestion.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 02, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Hope it works out for you, Senneth!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 09:36 PM

Dear Senneth, Please try to find an experienced neuromuscular therapist in your area. My digestive problems come and go( quickly and dramaticly) after treating vagus nerve issues, t8-t11 issues in the back, and visceral organ congestion. One session will show you the power of the work. (You will want to do more after the first.)There is a huge physical component to digestive issues. From my experience its 50% of the problem and solution. I will be glad to help you find a good and reasonably priced therapist in your area.

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

(1520)

on March 03, 2012
at 01:30 PM

If you think it's connected to your thyroid, have you had it tested? Treated?

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on March 03, 2012
at 09:32 PM

You only did test for SIBO with a breath test? No upper gi, colonoscopy?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on March 05, 2012
at 05:45 PM

Dean -I have had my thyroid checked, slightly low, no autoimmune issues. I am taking some glandular thyroid and monitoring my temps. PrimallyKosher - I have had every single test you can imagine, including the endoscopy and colonoscopy. They don't check for SIBO when they do those procedures. I had healthy test results from those tests. I also took a fructose breath test and it was normal.

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E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on March 19, 2012
at 05:45 AM

Loved her presentation!

I had SIBO myself and took an online 7-hr workshop with Dr. Allison Siebecker. I am a Paleo dietitan too and now consult with people with IBS, FODMAP intolerances, SIBO or any other digestive disorders. If you need help, check out my page!

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on March 03, 2012
at 06:15 AM

Amazing speaker. Highly recomended. She will make the top five for me likely.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 02, 2012
at 08:08 PM

She's an excellent speaker. Some of what she said caused me to wonder if I might have had SIBO in the past; if so, I don't now. But I do better with small portions and frequency of high-starch foods and nuts.

If I knew anyone with SIBO/IBS, etc., I'd definitely steer them in her direction.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 02, 2012
at 06:14 PM

I mmanaged to listen to the whole presentation and forwarded it to a friend with IBS.
I think it is helpful.

The compliment transcript made my day and actually convinced me to purchase the series. I retain a lot more info from written material than from audio.

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