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Hack my poop. Embarrassing.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 01, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Okay, I haven't seen anything like this on the site or... in my life.

My poop. It's always sucked, so I started taking probiotics because fiber wasn't doing shit. I pooped like, 4-5 times within the first day on probiotics. Great! But that immediately stopped after 3-4 days.

Keeping in mind I've always had terrible digestion, NOW I have the worst.

I am taking:

http://www.allvitaminsplus.com/658010115674.html

and

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=VS-2173&activateTab=reviews

(Just read the review, and now I'm pissed about the grams of fiber.)

ANYWAY, my poop is completely black, hard, flakey... Just think about it. Flakey poop. Yeah, it's weird. It also floats and breaks apart into smaller flakes.

I don't think it's blood (that'd just be a lot of blood). Could be dehydration, but I drink just as much as usual... I DID just start my Whole30 about when this started and switched to lemon water from tea w/ sweet n low.

So my variables:

  • Probiotics
  • Fiber
  • Lemon Water
  • Dehydration

Any ideas or experiences like this?

7b9b5de13a30c823dae64a971cb14add

(540)

on June 23, 2012
at 07:27 PM

some have too much of an apple cider vinegar taste/smell for me but i LOVE synergy kombucha. and they have some that have a dash of organic fruit puree for flavor that are a great starting point (especially the strawberry and guava goddess flavors). when my stomach is going haywire, i rely on the gingerade which is ginger juice and kombucha.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:03 PM

You just need to replenish your gut bacteria. I've found that canned pumpkin really keeps things regular.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:10 PM

I noticed that! I do check the ingredients involved and I kind of dismissed it on my fiber supps. Trust me, I don't want to take them, but everybody suggests it. I do plan, as suggested, to remove all supplements for a while. I'm wondering if fish oil has any good effect for me?

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:08 PM

kombucha really sounds like the new thing going around. I've been afraid to have it, but maybe I need to look into it at least once!

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:08 PM

haha thank you pjnoir! I'll definitely increase my fermented veggie intake. It's what I was doing before going paleo (miso soup, etc.), but somehow I've distanced since turning.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Thanks Sarah! I will look for good supplementation.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Thanks Nemesis! Your problems sound exactly what I've been through. Two days ago was one of the worst of my life, so I submitted to drinking Dieter's Tea (something I do not want to do). I will look into your suggestions and see if it helps. My biggest guess is that I've been eating too much meat and not enough balance? I don't believe my poop is full of blood, but possibly iron overload?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 03, 2012
at 06:39 PM

Green poo = too many blueberries. Red poo = too many beets.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 03, 2012
at 03:23 PM

I actually laughed really hard reading this post. It was this line that did it: "Sure as rain, a nice fluffy poo would be ready for me in the morning"

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on June 03, 2012
at 03:58 AM

Black poo = too many oreos.

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on June 02, 2012
at 08:04 PM

If you see "no poo," - it's not because PHers are anti-poop - it's someone who stops using sham-poo! LOL!

A727956fa3f943057c4edb08ad9e864e

(4183)

on June 02, 2012
at 11:12 AM

lemon water wouldn't have the high dose vitamin C needed. Both Perfect Health Diet and gutsense.org recommend high dose C (more than 2g) for good stool formation.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on June 02, 2012
at 01:05 AM

Nemesis - A couple of title selections... Hot to Trots. Deuce. Another brick in the wall. Mr. Toads Wild Ride. True Grit. Risky Business Wonder how long we can keep this going...that's not a sequel title, but and actual question *grin* Truth.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on June 02, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Seriously, this.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:30 PM

Nemesis' BM coming soon to an IMAX theater near you!

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:27 PM

@Truth--Spoiler alert: It has a shitty ending.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:18 PM

@TruthinessInc....Oh my god. Most hilarious comment of all time. @Nemesis, you are awesome for sharing so much in the name of online support!

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:08 PM

I felt like I was reading this post in 3D with 7.1 surround sound it was so in my face and intense...can't wait for the sequel….sorta..

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 01, 2012
at 10:48 PM

We are a very poo-oriented community :)

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:20 PM

Also, I agree about the mindset. I do not like supplements nor do I find much benefit from any medicine I typically take when ill. I do it because it's the normal thing to do and heavily suggested, but it's not ideal for me. If I can be flat out honest, I find most medicine to be a scam and supplements to be a money pit. I'm a strong believer in flavonoids and the healing properties of foods.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I haven't, I didn't know that would do anything. I do however have lemon water for every sip of drink I have in the day if that counts for much.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:03 PM

At the time of the probiotics I also started drinking lemon water. Typically in a day I eat a shit ton of grapes, cherries, grilled chicken, steak, some vegetables, butternut squash or tomato soup, plantain chips, almonds, or a banana. I will throw back an entire sauteed onion, squash, or zucchini. I started the probiotics because people recommended it since coconut was killing my stomach (they suspected bad bacteria). I started fiber at the recommendation of my doctor after having fissures, a colonoscopy, hemorrhoids, and weird alien style barium xrays.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:03 PM

At the time of the probiotics I also started drinking lemon water. Typically in a day I eat a shit ton of grapes, cherries, grilled chicken, steak, some vegetables, butternut squash or tomato soup, plantain chips, almonds, or a banana. I will throw back an entire sauteed onion, squash, or zucchini. I started the probiotics because people recommended it since coconut was killing my stomach (they suspected bad bacteria). I started fiber at the recommendation of doctor after having fissures, a colonoscopy, hemorrhoids, and weird alien style barium xrays.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Very much intended ;)

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on June 01, 2012
at 07:48 PM

If PaleoHacks is anything, its a safe place to talk about poo.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on June 01, 2012
at 06:50 PM

Also love how a reviewer on that website said "The label does not list the total grams per serving (should have told me something)" clearly he never heard of a thing called a calculator

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on June 01, 2012
at 06:49 PM

"fiber wasn't doing shit" pun intended?

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1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 01, 2012
at 10:59 PM

Sleepyhouse, I was also shitting bricks even when I ate strict Paleo (and I was eating a LOT of fiber). I was constipated and whenever I would finally "go" the hard stools would tear open my half-healed fissures. I started to dread going poo, because I knew it was going to hurt and there would blood at the end of it. Kind of like losing my virginity.

Desperate for relief, I would take a full dosage of Miralax with a glass of water every night. Sure as rain, a nice fluffy poo would be ready for me in the morning. Did that for six months straight with no ill effects.

But I got food poisoning last year and having to recover from that was arduous. I needed carbs, and white rice and broth seemed to be the only things I could tolerate. I also started taking probiotics to replenish what had been flushed out with the diarrhea, and the combination of starch and happy bacteria brought my stools to normal. Since I've added starches back to my diet in the form of potatoes and white rice, my poos have been much better. Every once in a while I'll get one that's harder than normal, and it will hurt my fissure, but never to the point that it bleeds for hours afterward. And TMI: I also stick a gloved finger smeared with zinc oxide cream up my bum to help heal them (after I poo, not before, lol).

I've also found that eating nuts of any kind will give me painful poos the next day. Unless they're crushed up into a fine meal or in the form of a butter, I try to avoid snacking on them now.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:27 PM

@Truth--Spoiler alert: It has a shitty ending.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:08 PM

I felt like I was reading this post in 3D with 7.1 surround sound it was so in my face and intense...can't wait for the sequel….sorta..

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:18 PM

@TruthinessInc....Oh my god. Most hilarious comment of all time. @Nemesis, you are awesome for sharing so much in the name of online support!

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 03, 2012
at 03:23 PM

I actually laughed really hard reading this post. It was this line that did it: "Sure as rain, a nice fluffy poo would be ready for me in the morning"

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 01, 2012
at 11:30 PM

Nemesis' BM coming soon to an IMAX theater near you!

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on June 02, 2012
at 01:05 AM

Nemesis - A couple of title selections... Hot to Trots. Deuce. Another brick in the wall. Mr. Toads Wild Ride. True Grit. Risky Business Wonder how long we can keep this going...that's not a sequel title, but and actual question *grin* Truth.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:03 PM

You just need to replenish your gut bacteria. I've found that canned pumpkin really keeps things regular.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Thanks Nemesis! Your problems sound exactly what I've been through. Two days ago was one of the worst of my life, so I submitted to drinking Dieter's Tea (something I do not want to do). I will look into your suggestions and see if it helps. My biggest guess is that I've been eating too much meat and not enough balance? I don't believe my poop is full of blood, but possibly iron overload?

4
85178e006119b00322a2401c494dd3a4

on June 01, 2012
at 11:35 PM

If it were me I'd go to the doctor. Black and flakey does not sound anywhere near the realm of normal, and blood from higher up in the colon would be black.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on June 02, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Seriously, this.

2
8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

on June 03, 2012
at 03:39 AM

I don't understand why you're taking a fiber supplement when if you eat enough nonstarchy veggies and berries you will get fiber - even low carb? If you're doing a ketogenic diet then that's a different story.

Your fiber supplement has known gut irritants that are NON-PALEO: Oat Bran Fiber!! Soy Fiber!!! Rice Bran!!

I've found in my personal experience when adequate Vitamin C, magnesium, probiotcs, and nonstarchy veggies/berries are consumed I have no problems with poo!

Hunter gatherer cultures barely have constipation.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:10 PM

I noticed that! I do check the ingredients involved and I kind of dismissed it on my fiber supps. Trust me, I don't want to take them, but everybody suggests it. I do plan, as suggested, to remove all supplements for a while. I'm wondering if fish oil has any good effect for me?

1
7b9b5de13a30c823dae64a971cb14add

on June 01, 2012
at 11:19 PM

what about a different method of probiotics - raw kombucha tea, maybe? they now make varietals that have chia seeds in them as well, which always soothes my sensitive stomach and gets things moving.

you might want to do an elimination of all your supplements for a week or two and then add them back in one at a time (spacing them apart by a week when you add back in).

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:08 PM

kombucha really sounds like the new thing going around. I've been afraid to have it, but maybe I need to look into it at least once!

7b9b5de13a30c823dae64a971cb14add

(540)

on June 23, 2012
at 07:27 PM

some have too much of an apple cider vinegar taste/smell for me but i LOVE synergy kombucha. and they have some that have a dash of organic fruit puree for flavor that are a great starting point (especially the strawberry and guava goddess flavors). when my stomach is going haywire, i rely on the gingerade which is ginger juice and kombucha.

1
0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on June 01, 2012
at 10:39 PM

LC and Paleo for over three years now and haven't used a fiber product in those yewars and I have better craps then when I did. I eat a lot of vegetables in season, some berries in seaon. The original study that found fiber to be healthy was fiber from eating vegetables and NOT from any package pulp or seed in a bag. Real food is always the answer. Eat some more fermanted foods. I like a teaspoon of apple cider vinger in a glass of water ( good for blood sugar) in the morning and evening, as very cheap quick way of getting go GUT.

crap on......

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:08 PM

haha thank you pjnoir! I'll definitely increase my fermented veggie intake. It's what I was doing before going paleo (miso soup, etc.), but somehow I've distanced since turning.

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F694fc245d03b64d6936ddb29f4c9306

(2613)

on June 01, 2012
at 07:25 PM

You should probably stop taking the probiotics, because it's not a stretch to suggest that they're causing your stupendous stools. It's simple: you started taking them, and immediately afterwards, you started having these problems. I imagine you didn't make any other drastic changes in the meantime.

I might suggest a change of mindset if you're focused on using fiber to improve digestion. Who tells you that you need fiber? Is it people with the assumption that you're eating three pizzas with four liters of soda a day? Sisson is incredulous that you actually need fiber, especially processed fiber.

So, what is your diet? Perhaps we can hack the root of this problem instead of trying to hack the hack.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:20 PM

Also, I agree about the mindset. I do not like supplements nor do I find much benefit from any medicine I typically take when ill. I do it because it's the normal thing to do and heavily suggested, but it's not ideal for me. If I can be flat out honest, I find most medicine to be a scam and supplements to be a money pit. I'm a strong believer in flavonoids and the healing properties of foods.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:03 PM

At the time of the probiotics I also started drinking lemon water. Typically in a day I eat a shit ton of grapes, cherries, grilled chicken, steak, some vegetables, butternut squash or tomato soup, plantain chips, almonds, or a banana. I will throw back an entire sauteed onion, squash, or zucchini. I started the probiotics because people recommended it since coconut was killing my stomach (they suspected bad bacteria). I started fiber at the recommendation of my doctor after having fissures, a colonoscopy, hemorrhoids, and weird alien style barium xrays.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:03 PM

At the time of the probiotics I also started drinking lemon water. Typically in a day I eat a shit ton of grapes, cherries, grilled chicken, steak, some vegetables, butternut squash or tomato soup, plantain chips, almonds, or a banana. I will throw back an entire sauteed onion, squash, or zucchini. I started the probiotics because people recommended it since coconut was killing my stomach (they suspected bad bacteria). I started fiber at the recommendation of doctor after having fissures, a colonoscopy, hemorrhoids, and weird alien style barium xrays.

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A727956fa3f943057c4edb08ad9e864e

on June 01, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Have you tried high dose vitamin C?

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 01, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I haven't, I didn't know that would do anything. I do however have lemon water for every sip of drink I have in the day if that counts for much.

A727956fa3f943057c4edb08ad9e864e

(4183)

on June 02, 2012
at 11:12 AM

lemon water wouldn't have the high dose vitamin C needed. Both Perfect Health Diet and gutsense.org recommend high dose C (more than 2g) for good stool formation.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on June 14, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Thanks Sarah! I will look for good supplementation.

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