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Bad Bacteria: Antibiotics or Natural remedy?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 15, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Hey there, so I've just got a comprehensive digestive analysis done, and today my results came back.

All of my blood lipids, and all of my absorption is A-ok, my SCFA and immunology AND my parasite-ology is ALSO fine, so the ONLY thing that appears to be problematic is that my liver is slightly stressed, and I have a growth of Enterobacter Cloacae.

My good bacteria levels(So Lactobacillus, Escher, Bifido, etc) were all listed as 4+,

All the bad strains of bacteria were listed as 1+ or lower, EXCEPT for EC, which had a level of 4+ as well.

my naturopath suggested that I take an antibiotic, ciprofloxacin, but I have heard so much about taking anti-biotics, and how it destroys your gut flora, and can damage it permanantely, I didn't want to immediately jump into taking it. The alternative is for me to take Uva-Ursi, Oregano, and Plant Tannins, which are supposed to attack the bad bacteria, but according to her, "aren't as effective"

What do you all think? What is your experience with EC, and also, should I try the natural formula, or go with the antibiotics?

IMPORTANT INFO: I eat fermented foods and take probiotics daily, but I also have been having slightly more starch recently, in the form of sweet potato and squash.(don't know if that affects gut bacteria at all)

I don't eat any dairy, or refined sugar, just lost of pastured meat, eggs, tons of veggies(especially leafy greens) less than or equal to 1 oz of soaked/sprouted nuts per day, some fruit(only berries, only ever up to a cup serving raspberries/blackberries)

HOWEVER, I also recently tried taking an inulin supplement... I just heard that it can feed bad bacteria as well as good though, so if I can starve out the EC bacteria without taking antibiotics, should I make sure to eliminate any form of inulin from my diet?

Thanks! Hack away!

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But what about the harmful effects of the antibiotics? Even with taking probiotics, there's no way my healthy gut flora could keep up, even with the constant supply of new healthy strains.... ?

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on August 15, 2013
at 10:10 PM

Gosh, great question - I wish I knew the right answer!

Honestly, I think bad bacteria should be killed off first, but I would not do it with antibiotics. There are so many other things to try, for example, bacteriophage. I myself took some Bacillus subtilis IP 5832.

A word of caution, though: you GOT TO get your doctor's advice on that.

However, if your doctor feels strongly about antibiotics - go for it, he knows more.

As for eliminating inulin - I would ... for now. Then, once your pathogenic flora is gone, I would re-introduce it to encourage growth of good bacteria.

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on August 16, 2013
at 12:04 AM

I have found natural antibiotics to be way too weak on my gut problems. i'd go with the real antibiotics and continue to eat lots of fermented foods.

458b7bac46cb9d6110245305ce8fae44

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on August 16, 2013
at 03:28 AM

But what about the harmful effects of the antibiotics? Even with taking probiotics, there's no way my healthy gut flora could keep up, even with the constant supply of new healthy strains.... ?

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on August 16, 2013
at 01:50 AM

Antibiotics will destroy the bacterial balance in your intestines. The best way to optimize your gut flora is a probiotic. Here's an excellent one:

http://www.amazon.com/Bio-Kult-F7057-B-Probiotic/dp/B004XKUD78

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on August 16, 2013
at 01:18 AM

If you want to try something that does not require the doctor's permission, mince some garlic, let it sit on the counter for a couple of minutes, then mix it with your potatoes or squash. Half a head (5 or 6 cloves) will do. Perhaps the greatest advantage of garlic is that it is antibiotic and inulin in a single package. If you work in a cubicle, try it on a Friday or Saturday night. Smell takes about 36 hours to go away.

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