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Was Dr. Atkins right all along?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 07, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Just wanted to ask all u paleo / primal supporters a question. Was Dr. Robert Atkins right all along? I read his book recently and it sounds like he was right all along, yet so many rubbished his diet books. I would be grateful for your comments / opinions on this.

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on June 07, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Didn't the Atkins bars come about after he was dead?

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on June 07, 2012
at 03:26 PM

It seems he began the products to raise money for studies. After his death, the venture capitalists bought the brand and went insane with the junk.

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on June 07, 2012
at 03:13 PM

He's baaaaaacckkkkk! With even more spam. Mujahid, spam isn't paleo. Not even when you attach it to cut and pasted content.

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on June 07, 2012
at 01:24 PM

Even the modern Atkins program still encourages omega-6 consumption.

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on June 07, 2012
at 01:23 PM

Someone said that in his first book he claimed or suggested that on a low-carb diet you would urinate away all the extra calories. He just found a diet that seemed to work for some people, then all kinds of speculation sprang up on why it might work.

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on June 07, 2012
at 12:24 PM

The Vita Nutrient Solution is an awesome book. I wish someone would come out with an updated version. His original diet was right, but in the end I think he either sold out on the bars or else he wasn't as involved in the day to day running once things became a big business. After he died the whole thing changed.

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on June 07, 2012
at 11:43 AM

See the link for where he wasn't right. As above, he was both right and wrong. Compared to paleo, his diet left a lot to be desired. Compared to SAD it was better. The Atkins products are horrible.

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on June 07, 2012
at 11:28 AM

Yes, he wasn't the first (Banting takes that credit), but Atkins has been certainly been vindicated by all that has come since in terms of low carb and paleo. The bars/etc were baffling — in all his books, not just the New Diet Revolution — he steered folk away from fake foods. As an aside, the one book no one else apart from me appears to have read — The Vita Nutrient Solution — should be required reading for everyone doing paleo.

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on June 07, 2012
at 11:08 AM

Ok he was wrong on the atkins bars / products etc but everything else he writes in his books is the same as Mark Sisson is saying now i.e. high fat, low carb, eat animals etc

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on June 07, 2012
at 10:49 AM

They were around before his death.

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on June 07, 2012
at 10:46 AM

I thought the Atkins products were something the Atkins company made after the Doctor's death. He himself actually created and recommended these horrible Atkins products?

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at 10:29 AM

Yeah i never bought into the atkins bars etc but i do think overall he was spot on, i used to suffer terrible migraine headaches, and it was only when i read his book and he suggested cutting out high carb foods would eliminate them, he was 100% right, and i think this to be the same for a lot of diseases/cancers out there.

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on June 07, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Much of what he recommended was great, in my opinion. He advised organic foods, including meat, eggs, vegetables, fats, and limited fruit.

The highly publicized versions of his recommendations tended to lean heavily toward making it seem accessible to all. Unfortunately, that seemed to translate into talking about the junk. It's a bit sad that his legacy has been yucky processed foods and eat pork rinds and diet drinks till you drop.

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on June 07, 2012
at 12:08 PM

Atkins does not emphasize food quality (whole, natural) or low omega 6 or no grains. And Paleo is not necessarily low carb. So Atkins was right about high fat and meat, but he didn't see the whole picture.

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on June 07, 2012
at 01:24 PM

Even the modern Atkins program still encourages omega-6 consumption.

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on June 07, 2012
at 10:23 AM

Right about what?

Low carb works well for many of us trying to lose weight or dealing with pre-diabetes etc. It's also very helpful for a variety of other medical and mental health issues. He was right about that as opposed to the high carb, low fat grain pushers.

Atkins also pushed a lot of low carb junk food though, with dubious ingredients. His diet definitely wasn't paleo.

Here is a comparison of Atkins and Paleo: http://www.paleoplan.com/2011/11-17/5-ways-the-paleo-diet-is-better-than-atkins/

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on June 07, 2012
at 10:46 AM

I thought the Atkins products were something the Atkins company made after the Doctor's death. He himself actually created and recommended these horrible Atkins products?

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(686)

on June 07, 2012
at 11:28 AM

Yes, he wasn't the first (Banting takes that credit), but Atkins has been certainly been vindicated by all that has come since in terms of low carb and paleo. The bars/etc were baffling — in all his books, not just the New Diet Revolution — he steered folk away from fake foods. As an aside, the one book no one else apart from me appears to have read — The Vita Nutrient Solution — should be required reading for everyone doing paleo.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 07, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Didn't the Atkins bars come about after he was dead?

77fcbf8bece61c60e3ff430d4bb5de66

(383)

on June 07, 2012
at 11:08 AM

Ok he was wrong on the atkins bars / products etc but everything else he writes in his books is the same as Mark Sisson is saying now i.e. high fat, low carb, eat animals etc

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on June 07, 2012
at 03:26 PM

It seems he began the products to raise money for studies. After his death, the venture capitalists bought the brand and went insane with the junk.

38dc9448a52fef25672c8ef6e17e8efc

(70)

on June 07, 2012
at 12:24 PM

The Vita Nutrient Solution is an awesome book. I wish someone would come out with an updated version. His original diet was right, but in the end I think he either sold out on the bars or else he wasn't as involved in the day to day running once things became a big business. After he died the whole thing changed.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 07, 2012
at 10:49 AM

They were around before his death.

77fcbf8bece61c60e3ff430d4bb5de66

(383)

on June 07, 2012
at 10:29 AM

Yeah i never bought into the atkins bars etc but i do think overall he was spot on, i used to suffer terrible migraine headaches, and it was only when i read his book and he suggested cutting out high carb foods would eliminate them, he was 100% right, and i think this to be the same for a lot of diseases/cancers out there.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 07, 2012
at 11:43 AM

See the link for where he wasn't right. As above, he was both right and wrong. Compared to paleo, his diet left a lot to be desired. Compared to SAD it was better. The Atkins products are horrible.

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on June 07, 2012
at 12:54 PM

John Durant appeared on the Colbert Report and was faced with the same question (Relevant Linkie). I think his answer is spot-on. To paraphrase, his comment was "Atkins is a diet centered around weight loss, not optimal health."

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on June 07, 2012
at 02:11 PM

The question fascinates us on a number of fronts. First, this approach, as first practiced by and then promoted by its creator, flew in the face of the standard weight loss practice and the government???s dietary guidelines.

Second, while his approach was wildly popular since Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution was first published in the early 70s, his approach remains very popular today.

Third, anyone who has closely followed the low carb debate and is familiar with the entire Atkins Nutritional Approach, as it was officially called, cannot help but be impressed with the things he was saying in the initial promotion of his material back in the 1970s that remains part of the diet today.

Based on a published scientific study

As described by Gary Taubes in his fascinating book, Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health, Atkins based his dietary ideas on a study by endocrinologist Edgar Gordon titled ???A New Concept in the Treatment of Obesity??? published in 1963 in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).

At the time, Atkins had gained considerable weight and thought carbohydrate restriction, as described in Gordon???s study, was a valid method of weight loss. He modified the diet to some degree but he was impressed that subjects in the study lost weight without complaining about hunger.

Although Atkins was a Cornell trained cardiologist, he went on to develop a diet plan to treat obesity that became a large part of his medical practice. According to Taubes, his diet business boomed when women's fashion magazines started recommending his diet.

The gist of the Atkins diet is carbohydrate restriction and it allowed weight loss without the common challenge (and downfall of most diets) of hunger. Calories were not counted or restricted... just carbohydrates. His assertion was that refined carbohydrates and starches, not saturated fat, caused heart disease and diabetes.

Atkins wrote, "The main reason low-calorie diets fail in the long run is because you go hungry on them... And while you may tolerate hunger for a short time, you can???t tolerate hunger all your life."

Misconceptions about his diet

In the revised version of his popular diet book, Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, Revised Edition, Atkins outlined some of the common misconceptions about his dietary approach.

One common misconception he mentions concerns ketosis. He says that there is confusion, even amongst medical professionals, between ketosis (the normal state of the body burning its fat stores for energy) and ketoacidosis (a condition that occurs when a persons blood sugar is out of control and he or she cannot produce insulin).

Other fallacies he discusses include the idea that the Atkins diet restricts calories (in fact calories are not counted, only carbohydrates), that the diet is lacking in essential nutrients (it appears to be a diet that provides a wide range of healthy vegetables, fats and proteins), that you???ll feel tired and lack energy on Atkins (this may occur in the first couple of days when your body is adjusting from carbohydrates as its fuel to burning fat), and a number of other criticisms.

Each is addressed in a seemingly scientific way with plenty of references.

He also stresses that Atkins, as the diet became known, should not be considered a short term diet, but rather a permanent lifestyle change.

Unpopular with the medical establishment

Atkins was vilified by the established obesity research and treatment community. He had to vigorously defend his dietary assertions. But while the medical establishment was clearly antagonistic towards him and non supportive of his claims, the public became enamored. It???s estimated that in the early 2000s as many as 1 in 10 Americans were "doing Atkins".

As Taubes relates in Good Calories, Bad Calories, a critique of Atkins book that appeared in JAMA and that was written by its editors, dismissed the (low carb) diets as "bizarre concepts of nutrition and dieting [that] should not be promoted to the public as if they were established scientific principles.???

Taubes also states that these nutritionists readily admitted that they did not know what caused obesity and acknowledged that calorie restriction failed to cure it.

A group of about a dozen men (including the JAMA editors mentioned above) made up the dominant thinkers in the field of obesity. They adamantly refused to consider a low carb approach to the problem. And because of their influence, their younger colleagues took up the cause and perpetuated their beliefs.

It???s another incredible story about the bias and lack of science that was a powerful force in the field from the 1950s that still resonates today.

It???s a complicated story worthy of review in order to better understand the whole low carb, lipid hypothesis debate.

But one of the most interesting aspects is that while the "experts" have been advocating increased carbohydrate consumption (which the public, by and large, has adopted), the obesity rates have climbed to the epidemic proportions we see around us today.

So the question remains: Is the Atkins diet the right approach after all?

As with anything to do with your health and diet, there are two things to bear in mind. Don???t make any major changes without consulting your physician.

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on June 07, 2012
at 03:13 PM

He's baaaaaacckkkkk! With even more spam. Mujahid, spam isn't paleo. Not even when you attach it to cut and pasted content.

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