I just discover the Spartan Diet. After i found a place on Mount Athos monestery were the monks seem to live very healthy on a vegan-vegietarian diet. Searching on i found the Spartan Diet. Spartan were a warrior culture. Popular in the Hollywood movie 300. The Spartan Woman were only for getting the fittest and strongest children. They were taught very disciplined and killed each to get more discipline. So only the fittest surive and hold together in war and fight.
This websites makes a diet out of this. I remember from dokumentaries that the Spartans drink fresh blood. THis site calls things which are known by Western Price people.
Do you think its possible to adapt the spartan diet. Or Were the healthy way of the Spartan People more than just diet. The very disciplend and trimmed society?
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on April 02, 2011
at 03:36 PM
It's awfully convenient because there hasn't been much paleopathology done on Spartan remains that I can track down. Without study of those remains it's hard to tell what their health was actually like. Were they powerful warriors when they were young, but died bent and toothless? Who knows.
I know one thing that people miss in the Mediterranean diet is the importance of fasting in traditional Greek culture. The monks on Mount Athos fast a lot. They are also close to vegan, but not totally, since they eat mollusks. Overall, they have an ascetic life of prayer and community, which probably counts for some health. They also typically don't go there until they are older, so they aren't eating this diet their entire life.
Occasionally I've come across that blog, but the author doesn't seem to have the greatest grasp of science or stats. The diet he/she is promoting is like the fat-phobic version of WAPF.
on April 02, 2011
at 09:31 PM
I question how much info is really truly documented on the Spartan diet... There's a ton of myth going on there.
on June 13, 2011
at 11:51 PM
Sorry to find this conversation so late. I'm one of the authors of the upcoming book The Spartan Diet, and the blog mentioned at the beginning of this post.
I would be happy to answer any questions you have. In the meantime, let me address a few of the questions raised here:
The Spartan Diet is not a re-creation of the diet of ancient Spartans. It's informed by their diet, and also by the ancient Greek diet, but includes superfoods from around the world. Above all, we learn all kinds of specific lessons the Spartan culture has to teach us about moderation, physical training and many, many others, all of which are detailed in the book.
We love the Paleo diet, and the Spartan Diet shares many of the principles of it, including the elimination of what Paleo fans call "processed foods" and what we call "industrial foods," elimination of sugar, deep-fried foods and many other thing like that.
The Spartan Diet differs from the Paleo in two very big ways, and in many very small ways having to do with food preparation, mostly -- the Spartan Diet, for example, is very big on fermented foods and is far more detailed on sophisticated (but easy) methods for healthy food production.
The big ways are over meat and grains. Most Paleo diet fans eat beef, as well as chicken. We regard these as industrialized species selectively bred for passivity and obesity, and they're not on the Spartan Diet. All animal flesh on the Spartan Diet is wild fish and wild game. We also think most Paleo fans get far too much protein from meat and far too little from plant sources.
The second big divergence is over grains, which are welcome on the Spartan Diet in fermented form. You'll note that nearly all the evidence in the Paleo literature against grains comes from the beginning of civilization (early farmers were short and sick) and the end of civilization (industrial revolution and the current obesity/diabetes epidemics). Between these extremes traditional cultures all over the world fermented (and many still ferment) their grains through "sourdough" bread processes, and with liquid ferments. Fermentation nearly eliminates antinutrients, and radically increases the bio-availability of nutrients in grains, and even produces new nutrients.
Paleo fans who want to take their health to the next level will be able to "Spartanize" their Paleo diet to take it to the next level. Grains are not required, and Paleo fans who oppose grains can skip them. No big deal. The most important thing is to stop eating industrial meats, and prepare foods using the extensive list of Spartan Diet principles and cooking methods for maximum health.
on May 06, 2013
at 01:04 PM
LOL, Spartans were Vegan. Yeah ok, and Gerald Butler didn't take steroids for 300. Mmmhmmm
on April 13, 2013
at 09:30 PM
Err... Spartans barely ate ANYTHING ELSE than meat... get your facts right boy. Otherwise we'll eat you alive and drink your blood.
on April 02, 2011
at 03:21 PM
do you have to buy the book to actually find out what this diet involves? most of the text on the website seems to suggest it's something pretty similar to paleo in principal anyway? - for instance discarding processed foods...
I understood Gladiators would eat lion hearts before a fight.
on August 21, 2011
at 09:46 PM
Why attack this guy for coming on here and being accessible?
on June 14, 2011
at 04:17 AM
on April 02, 2011
at 02:40 PM
"Do you think its possible to adapt the spartan diet" for me personally absolutely not,my ancestors did not eat grains and they make me feel like crap.did you know gladiators were actually chubby?preferred food for adding fat...beans and grain. Did you know the people of this time period in this geographical region were very short? like 5-5.5 feet tall.
Or Were the healthy way of the Spartan People more than just diet. yea and who says they were healthy?
The very disciplend and trimmed society? huh?
on May 06, 2013
at 09:45 AM
Thank all you good folk for your interesting input. A little sad all this emphasis on fine details of health, when the main reason for being vegetarian is that in addition to its being more than adequate for health and vitality, it is the only way we can avoid two billion humans going to bed hungry every day of their short lives. Nearly half the planets agric. land is being diverted to feed 52 billion farm animals - artificially bred and funded by just a few billions often sickly humans. Edward King, 23 years beef/dairy farming, 43 healthier, happier, productive years solely on plant nutrition.
on June 16, 2011
at 04:33 AM
There is every indication that the Spartans were the healthiest people ever. The few statues that survive showing everyday Spartan people suggest radical physical fitness.
This is a teenage girl:
They lived long lives. They dominated the Olympics. They were famous throughout Greece for their strength, endurance and athleticism.