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Created February 17, 2011 at 9:45 PM

I was at work today at,running the self checkout.A pair of older ladies came up,complaining about our lack of gluten free sweets(we have TONS,BTW..everything from muffins to cookies).I tried to step in and help them.One lady was very friendly,the other ended up screaming at me"I looked,but you don't have anything gluten free!I have to have gluten free!"(Had I not been in uniform, I would have told her"Well you better learn to cook,honey".)My question is,how much trouble did you have breaking the replacement habit with real food?Is the food just as addictive or is it just learned behavior?

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on February 09, 2012
at 03:10 AM

+1 cuz I so agree. I tend to freak out sometimes (not on staff ever) so I try and just imagine that they are having a hypoglycemic attack or something. It's still not okay though. Treat service people with respect damn it. If someone is crappy to me I walk away or hang up the phone. Better than yelling back.

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on March 22, 2011
at 04:33 AM

Sugar is the really hard part for me to let go of. That's why I haven't even tried to bake anything yet with all my alternative flours. That said, one of my rules for getting rid of bad for me foods that I still want to eat is to allow myself to have them IF I am willing to make them from scratch. That usually stops me if it's something baked or complicated to make. Don't get me wrong I cook, a lot! But I don't have enough time to make grain free treats when I've got a ton of meat to cook:)

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on February 20, 2011
at 06:25 PM

Yes, dogtorj.tripod.com/id108.html My theory is that it's the main reason so many in the paleo community will be almost 100% paleo EXCEPT for dairy. They don't realize they are addicted to it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 20, 2011
at 06:25 PM

Yes, http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id108.html My theory is that it's the main reason so many in the paleo community will be almost 100% paleo EXCEPT for dairy. They don't release they are addicted to it.

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on February 18, 2011
at 05:40 PM

Wait, what? Butter acts like morphine?!?

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on February 18, 2011
at 02:40 PM

If I cave into pressure from the other half(not perfect) and make anything,it's completely whole foods and homemade.The wait and effort involved(2 hours to make rice krispie treats), normally will put him off from asking.Don't trust mixes and off the shelf sweets,and really don't enjoy them.

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on February 18, 2011
at 11:48 AM

Well butter is addicting because it contains some casein which even in small amounts can cause a morphine-like effect because of the casomorphines. So yea, like MSG it's an addictive food however it's not a neurotoxin like MSG.

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on February 18, 2011
at 11:47 AM

Well butter is addicting because it contains some casein which even in the small amounts can cause an morphine-like effect because of the casomorphines. So yea it is also an addictive food = )

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on February 17, 2011
at 11:10 PM

"Maybe an image conscious teenage girl notices an adult male who from the neck down looks fitter than all the boys at her school who don’t play sports, and some of the ones that do. Maybe she hears you talk about your lack of hunger and maybe, being a teenager, after all, she is attracted to the transgressive notions you hint at – carnivory, saturated fat -that obviously horrify her parents." That passage makes me think of Humbert Humbert for some reason....

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on February 17, 2011
at 11:02 PM

OMG that's my favorite Robert Frank photo before the article.

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on February 17, 2011
at 10:59 PM

I ate it,too.One of the items is my once in a blue moon treat,Annie's gluten free shells.(been sick off everything other gluten free packaged meal,but never Annie's).I just don't recall being so angry when I couldn't find it.

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on February 17, 2011
at 10:23 PM

It can be rough to completely give up on everything you have ever known because it was all killing you, then turn around and eat a completely different range of foods. This is why substitution recipes are so popular, even in the Paleo community. (In fact, I'm looking at the Health Bent blog in another tab today. grin) Some people just can't do the cold-turkey thing. Baby steps are better than no movement at all.

I'm concerned that anyone feels free to yell at service staff for any reason short of the employee in question attempting rape, robbery, or homicide against a customer. I can't stand customers like that. It's a shopping trip, people, not a life-or-death situation. Your body will not fall apart right now if you don't find what you're looking for.

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on February 09, 2012
at 03:10 AM

+1 cuz I so agree. I tend to freak out sometimes (not on staff ever) so I try and just imagine that they are having a hypoglycemic attack or something. It's still not okay though. Treat service people with respect damn it. If someone is crappy to me I walk away or hang up the phone. Better than yelling back.

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on February 17, 2011
at 10:48 PM

The best answer I can think of for this has already been written. Not by me.

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on February 17, 2011
at 11:10 PM

"Maybe an image conscious teenage girl notices an adult male who from the neck down looks fitter than all the boys at her school who don’t play sports, and some of the ones that do. Maybe she hears you talk about your lack of hunger and maybe, being a teenager, after all, she is attracted to the transgressive notions you hint at – carnivory, saturated fat -that obviously horrify her parents." That passage makes me think of Humbert Humbert for some reason....

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on February 17, 2011
at 11:02 PM

OMG that's my favorite Robert Frank photo before the article.

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on February 18, 2011
at 05:51 AM

I think it depends on what your addiction is. I do not seem to be nearly as addicted to wheat as I am to sugar. For me, staying away from wheat is much easier than staying away from sugar, so I am thinking that gluten free pastries and the like would be almost as bad for me as their original wheat counterparts. However, I do think paleo substitution recipes like almond meal and banana muffins did help greatly to ease my transition to paleo. They helped serve as a bridge but turned out to be not too addicting in themselves.

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on March 22, 2011
at 04:33 AM

Sugar is the really hard part for me to let go of. That's why I haven't even tried to bake anything yet with all my alternative flours. That said, one of my rules for getting rid of bad for me foods that I still want to eat is to allow myself to have them IF I am willing to make them from scratch. That usually stops me if it's something baked or complicated to make. Don't get me wrong I cook, a lot! But I don't have enough time to make grain free treats when I've got a ton of meat to cook:)

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on February 17, 2011
at 10:59 PM

I work in the fitness industry and talk to clients a lot about food choices. It's unfortunate that there is so much contradicting information out there, because I see a lot of frustrated people who are just trying to do the right thing but are lost. I think this reaction was one of frustration, as rude and misdirected as it was. People are desperate to find a solution to their health. Unfortunately the hardest thing to do is to convince someone to put down the boxes and bags and pick up a vegetable.

Yes, there is addiction, but I find most of my clients can deal with it once they understand the direction they need to take. Having hope after so much confusion is a powerful thing.

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on February 17, 2011
at 10:33 PM

Before I went paleo I was originally gluten free. I ate things like gluten free cookies, baked gluten free breads, cakes ect.

From what I found gluten free processed food is extremely addicting, it is laden with sugar, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, soy, GMO corn ect. It's just as bad as regular processed food. All these gluten free desserts made me feel more horrible than say just eating honey or lots of fruit for my "sweet tooth".

That lady who screamed at you was probably just another victom of additive laden processed food. If you look at the back of a box of any gluten free product you will see the ingredients that create people like this.

The angry disposition, impatient, probably fat, typical American consumer. They are being fooled if they think going gluten free is enough to live a healthy life style. That's why many people only heal so much. Going gluten free helps a lot until you introduce a new array of trash that is found in gluten free processed foods.

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on February 17, 2011
at 10:59 PM

I ate it,too.One of the items is my once in a blue moon treat,Annie's gluten free shells.(been sick off everything other gluten free packaged meal,but never Annie's).I just don't recall being so angry when I couldn't find it.

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on February 18, 2011
at 02:12 PM

I'm gonna go with learned behavior. Perhaps these ladies (and many other people) have forgotten that real food exists. They may not even think about it. When I ate things like Campbell's to-go soups or frozen dinners, I didn't think to myself, "Wow, this is fake food...but it's so easy." I thought, "I need lunch and the store has food that I can keep forever and microwave when I need it." It sounds pretty shortsighted now, but it didn't cross my mind at the time that this wasn't how everyone ate. The reason I stopped eating the above examples was not because I found out they weren't real; it's because I decided they were mostly gross and almost never filling.

Once I learned how bad processed and fake foods really are, I found it pretty easy to give up most anything from a box or package. I haven't attempted to make any paleo-ish replacement or use gluten-free look-a-likes, but I have made several wheat-free desserts: chocolate truffles (chocolate, butter, cream cheese) and a torte (eggs, sugar, chocolate). Yes, every now and then I still satisfy my sweet tooth. 8)

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on February 18, 2011
at 02:40 PM

If I cave into pressure from the other half(not perfect) and make anything,it's completely whole foods and homemade.The wait and effort involved(2 hours to make rice krispie treats), normally will put him off from asking.Don't trust mixes and off the shelf sweets,and really don't enjoy them.

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on February 17, 2011
at 11:16 PM

I think a lot of it is learned behavior. I remember the first time I had a chicken breast that had been sauteed in real butter with a ton of garlic...pure pleasure. Lean Cuisine just doesn't hold a candle to the real thing.

I do suspect that certain ingredients like MSG have addictive properties, however.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2011
at 11:47 AM

Well butter is addicting because it contains some casein which even in the small amounts can cause an morphine-like effect because of the casomorphines. So yea it is also an addictive food = )

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on February 18, 2011
at 05:40 PM

Wait, what? Butter acts like morphine?!?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2011
at 11:48 AM

Well butter is addicting because it contains some casein which even in small amounts can cause a morphine-like effect because of the casomorphines. So yea, like MSG it's an addictive food however it's not a neurotoxin like MSG.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 20, 2011
at 06:25 PM

Yes, dogtorj.tripod.com/id108.html My theory is that it's the main reason so many in the paleo community will be almost 100% paleo EXCEPT for dairy. They don't realize they are addicted to it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 20, 2011
at 06:25 PM

Yes, http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id108.html My theory is that it's the main reason so many in the paleo community will be almost 100% paleo EXCEPT for dairy. They don't release they are addicted to it.

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on February 17, 2011
at 09:58 PM

I try my best not to eat anything in a package. MY experience is that it is better to just find new things then "dumbed down" versions of old favorites.

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