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New take on water fluoridation

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 08, 2013 at 12:56 AM

I just watched a video from Adam Kokesh on fluoridated water, and although it mainly sheds light on the monopoly of water in the U.S., it did bring up some rather interesting points, such as how there are studies with findings that areas with non-fluoridated water have better dental health.

here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSrlLQ0PVvc&feature=youtu.be

The first two comments speak of "studies" on how it affects the pineal gland, cancer, alzheimer's, and more. After watching the video and reading the comments (which I was aware of those claims beforehand), I decided to look up as many studies as possible on this topic. I haven't read many yet as I'm soon leaving for a BBS workout :) (love them) but found some interesting studies/resources

1) http://www.inspiredliving.com/water-pollution/fluoride-studies.htm (not actually a study but an ex fluoride advocate, with citations to 73 fluoride studies that I believe show harm)

2) http://www.canadianmedicaljournal.ca/content/183/9/E531 this shows both sides of the argument, but does little to provide sufficient medical evidence for either side.

3) http://books.google.com/books?id=nrzA2zrqGaMC&pg=PA408&lpg=PA408&dq=Yiamouyiannis+JA.+Fluoridation+and+cancer.+Fluoride+26+83-96+1993.&source=bl&ots=pP9gVwQIwm&sig=W4z4NIdo-UrmG4m97iMIHqjLz_A&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-2vrUNPOKov3rAHCloGoBA&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Yiamouyiannis%20JA.%20Fluoridation%20and%20cancer.%20Fluoride%2026%2083-96%201993.&f=false and this; a scientific review of the epa's standards, with massive amounts of research.

My questions would be:

1) Could fluoride in fact be negatively impacting the health of my liver? 2) Could fluoride be negatively impacting my brain/cognitive performance? 3) Is fluoride, even in dental care products, actually unneeded? - I do know the healthiest my teeth/gums were ever becoming was when I used coconut oil pulls with coconut oil + baking soda toothpaste (homemade) 4) If I were to remove all fluoride from my water by whole house filters/non-fluoride filters, spring water, etc. and making my own dental care products, would I notice a benefit? 5) Could I possibly reverse any of my symptoms by eliminating fluoride?

If any of you are interested in reading the studies provided, and giving me your take, that would be great. If anybody has in fact installed a hole house filter and/or removed all fluoride from their water/dental care products, has it improved your life and/or health?

Thanks for any input whatsoever. I'm very interested in the responses I receive.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

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on January 14, 2013
at 02:07 PM

Caps lock is impressive

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 14, 2013
at 02:06 PM

CAPS LOCK IS COOL

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 14, 2013
at 01:11 PM

See, you've gotten totally bent out of shape, while I'm skeptical of the claims of fluoride fearmongers, I'm certainly not a fan of fluoride in general. You do yourself no flavors by evoking Alex Jones-esque conspiracy theories about mind control.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 14, 2013
at 01:08 PM

Most all genomes are similar, mice are not that great for human studies. But you cut off right where they say the EXACT SAME THING I eluded to: short lifespan, easy propagation.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 08:28 PM

MATT MAKES $ OFF OF CHEMICALS. HE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THE ABOVE INFO. DOES HE???

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:14 AM

In 2005, a study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health found that fluoride in tap water directly contributes to causing bone cancer in young boys.“New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma—bone cancer—between the ages of 10 and 19,” according to a London Observer article about the study.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:12 AM

Fluoride is therefore an endocrine disruptor in the broad sense of altering normal endocrine function or response, although probably not in the sense of mimicking a normal hormone. The mechanisms of action remain to be worked out and appear to include both direct and indirect mechanisms, for example, direct stimulation or inhibition of hormone secretion by interference with second messenger function, indirect stimulation or inhibition of hormone secretion by effects on things such as calcium balance, and inhibition of peripheral enzymes that are necessary for activation of the normal hormone”

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:12 AM

A 2008 Scientific American reportconcluded that “Scientific attitudes toward fluoridation may be starting to shift” as new evidence emerges of the poison’s link to disorders affecting teeth, bones, the brain, and the thyroid gland, as well as lowering IQ. The Scientific American study “concluded that fluoride can subtly alter endocrine function, especially in the thyroid.” “In summary, evidence of several types indicates that fluoride affects normal endocrine function or response; the effects of the fluoride-induced changes vary in degree and kind in different individuals.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:11 AM

The American government’s atomic weapons program also produced huge amounts of fluoride and have been sued by famers for the damage done to their cattle. Christopher Bryson’s widely acclaimed book The Fluoride Deception includes dozens of peer-reviewed studies showing that sodium fluoride is a deadly neurotoxin that attacks the central nervous system and leads to a multitude of serious health problems. This fact has been covered up by a collusion of government and industry who have reaped financial windfalls while illegally mass medicating the public against their will.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:11 AM

To make matters worse, water fluoridation of public water supplies receives no oversight from the Food and Drug Administration, and the Environmental Protection Agency takes no responsibility for the practice. And from an ethical standpoint, water fluoridation is a bad medical practice; individuals are being forced to take medication without their informed consent; there is no control over the dose and no monitoring of possible side effects.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:11 AM

The fluoride used for water fluoridation (sodium fluoride) is not of pharmaceutical grade; its a hazardous waste product of the phosphate fertilizer industry. It shortens our life span, promotes various cancers and mental disturbances, and most importantly, makes humans stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one neat little package. It is illegal to dump this waste into the sea or local surface water, and yet it is allowed in our drinking water.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

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on January 08, 2013
at 08:53 PM

that and another reason.. "The facts. Mice and rats are strikingly similar to humans in their anatomy, physiology and genetics. In fact, over 95% of the mouse genome—the hereditary information found in the mouse DNA—is similar to our human genome." http://www.danerwin.com/research/pdf/rat_science_human_brainpower.pdf

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:13 PM

David is confusing so many different things, which I illustrated with his chlorine confusion. His fluorine confusion is similar: PTFE/byproducts, fluoride, fluorine, organo-fluorines... these are all very different things with all different issues. Only one (fluoride) has any bearing on the fluoridation of water disucssion.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:12 PM

Well-documented? Not really... Legit studies showing real problems with fluoride are few and far between. Links to cancer? It's a wash, there's no trend. Links to bone disease? None. Link to reduced dental caries? Yes. Where's the significant health risk? The science isn't behind it.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:09 PM

LOL! Seriously?! I'm now suspected of being tied to the fluoride industry...

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:07 PM

Rats and mice are used in studies because 1) they're cheap to breed/feed/keep, 2) their lifespans are short, therefore it is feasible to study things like cancer and chronic toxicities because you can study their entire lifespan.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

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on January 08, 2013
at 04:46 PM

consider also we test alot of things on rats before moving them onto human consumpion, including drugs, new food additives .. . One of the reasons they are used is their similarity to the human bodys biology

32d059a467e99a4fc83201407a4a238d

on January 08, 2013
at 04:45 PM

Matt, do you have ties to the fluoride industry? You're so defensive. Everyone here is just trying to have a reasonable discussion about a well-documented health risk.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 04:42 PM

cute that you deduce that from my statements. Once again I was simply stating my comment / opinion in a fluoride discussion, where it belongs..

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 04:42 PM

cute that you deduce that from my statements. Once again stating my comment / opinion in a fluoride discussion, where it belongs..

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 03:54 PM

It was. You went off subject: "Chloride, chlorine, chlorinated water... different things!". This was an attempt to cast doubt on the credibility my comment. You have been exposed, troll.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 03:36 PM

Thought the question was about fluoride?

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 03:24 PM

The point is that there is no confusion about the fact that chlorine added to municipal water forms THMs, and they are not something most people would knowingly risk ingesting.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 03:18 PM

Yes, THMs are bad (I actually was developing a sensor for them at one point.) What's the point?

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 03:06 PM

Trihalomethanes (THM) are a group of four chemicals that are formed along with other disinfection by products when chlorine or other disinfectants used to control microbial contaminants in drinking water react with naturally occurring organic and inorganic matter in water. The trihalomethanes are chloroform, bromodichloromethane, dibromochloromethane, and bromoform. They are Cancer Group B carcinogens (shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals). Trichloromethane (chloroform) is by far the most common in most water systems. Dibromochloromethane is the most serious cancer risk.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 02:45 PM

Confusing different chemicals makes the chemist in me cry... Chloride, chlorine, chlorinated water... different things!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 08, 2013
at 02:44 PM

And humans are just like rats, right?

76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

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on January 08, 2013
at 01:37 PM

I checked out the whole-home filters, but then there are still concerns about getting junk that's in the pipes (and, living in a 100-year-old house, who knows what's in there). I just ordered a Berkey and I'm really looking forward to see if there's a noticeable difference in taste and my own health.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 01:02 PM

why was my comment deleted?

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 01:01 PM

and Acetaminophen kills cats too, the list can go on... my point is still valid.. in a fluoride discussion.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 08, 2013
at 12:35 PM

Potassium is an essential nutrient and yet is used in lethal injections. Chocolate and grapes kill dogs, and yet humans eat them without issues. Folks, chemophobia is not cool.

81348acb7b886e2b32ca915d250268f3

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on January 08, 2013
at 09:51 AM

Metro Melbourne, so I'm guessing it is. That said, our tap water does taste superb :)

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on January 08, 2013
at 09:26 AM

not all of the drinking water supply in Australia is fluoridated, it depends on where you live. tho most major areas are. you should be able to find out by checking the web site of your particular water supplier.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 08, 2013
at 02:37 AM

Interesting, I believe I've heard of that book, not necessarily Dr. Paull Connett though. I will have to check it out. I've always thought fluoride couldn't be good for us, long before my searches on paleo/primal and Weston A Price I always believed in organic eating and I would always question what was in water then, even bathing water. Thanks for the info.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on January 08, 2013
at 01:57 AM

-#thyroidissues

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on January 08, 2013
at 01:38 AM

Yea dude, flouride is bad, it displaces iodine n what not.

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E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 03:00 AM

Keep in mind sodium fluoride is also marketed as "rat poison"

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 01:02 PM

why was my comment deleted?

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 08:53 PM

that and another reason.. "The facts. Mice and rats are strikingly similar to humans in their anatomy, physiology and genetics. In fact, over 95% of the mouse genome—the hereditary information found in the mouse DNA—is similar to our human genome." http://www.danerwin.com/research/pdf/rat_science_human_brainpower.pdf

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 04:42 PM

cute that you deduce that from my statements. Once again stating my comment / opinion in a fluoride discussion, where it belongs..

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 01:01 PM

and Acetaminophen kills cats too, the list can go on... my point is still valid.. in a fluoride discussion.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 04:46 PM

consider also we test alot of things on rats before moving them onto human consumpion, including drugs, new food additives .. . One of the reasons they are used is their similarity to the human bodys biology

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 08, 2013
at 04:42 PM

cute that you deduce that from my statements. Once again I was simply stating my comment / opinion in a fluoride discussion, where it belongs..

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:07 PM

Rats and mice are used in studies because 1) they're cheap to breed/feed/keep, 2) their lifespans are short, therefore it is feasible to study things like cancer and chronic toxicities because you can study their entire lifespan.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 12:35 PM

Potassium is an essential nutrient and yet is used in lethal injections. Chocolate and grapes kill dogs, and yet humans eat them without issues. Folks, chemophobia is not cool.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 02:44 PM

And humans are just like rats, right?

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 14, 2013
at 02:07 PM

Caps lock is impressive

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 14, 2013
at 01:08 PM

Most all genomes are similar, mice are not that great for human studies. But you cut off right where they say the EXACT SAME THING I eluded to: short lifespan, easy propagation.

E9140ef0ca0a76ea14b9ebccad234608

(615)

on January 14, 2013
at 02:06 PM

CAPS LOCK IS COOL

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B48ef15c93881d4dd0198335f61d713f

on January 08, 2013
at 01:46 AM

As a top scientist and the premier international authority on fluoride, last year Dr. Paul Connett's published his most recent book "The Case Against Fluoride." It contains over 1200 peer reviewed studies (80 pages) and sound scientific reasoning showing the ineffectiveness and dangers to health including cancer, thyroid & pineal gland damage, broken hips from brittle bones, lowered IQ, kidney disease, and other serious health problems.

Many large studies show that fluoride has no value for teeth and is dangerous to health.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 08, 2013
at 02:37 AM

Interesting, I believe I've heard of that book, not necessarily Dr. Paull Connett though. I will have to check it out. I've always thought fluoride couldn't be good for us, long before my searches on paleo/primal and Weston A Price I always believed in organic eating and I would always question what was in water then, even bathing water. Thanks for the info.

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85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 02:37 PM

Fluoride is one of 3 toxic halides (chlorine and bromide are the other 2) in industrial society which displace iodine in the body, and this has a wide range of negative health effects. Fluoride in water is not the only source of fluoride exposure in the U.S. Toothpastes, fluoride mouth rinses, fluorine based pesticide residues on conventional produce, bottled teas, fluorinated pharmaceuticals, and teflon pans contribute as well. Shockingly, 41% of adolescents in the U.S. currently have dental fluorosis from overexposure to fluoride.

Chlorine, bromine and fluoride all replace iodine in the thyroid gland, and end up depressing thyroid gland function, which leads to hypothyroidism and weight gain. The main reasons why thyroid function is depressed in the majority of people is that the majority of people drink and bath in chlorinated water and they ingest fluoride and bromine. Bromine is an everyday food additive widely used as an anti-caking agent in bakery products???read labels. It is used in brominated vegetable oils, which are used as emulsifiers, and in citrus-flavored soft drinks. It is also in conventional produce because crops are often sprayed with bromide-based fumigants. With sufficient iodine supplementation AND making sure you avoid all sources of chlorine, bromine and fluoride, you will regain your normal thyroid function - it takes time, years.

Our family is forced to live with chlorinated and fluoridated water. After much research I decided on the PureMaster V-700 whole house system for chlorine. But it also filters out heavy metals, and other contaminants, including - chloramines, cysts, copepods, VOCs, atrazine, benzene, xylene, pesticides, insecticides, herbicides. It had a great price for its large capacity, and has 6-month 100% Satisfaction Guarantee, and the over-the-phone support is excellent. I also got the FluorideMaster whole house filter. It filters fluoride out of typical municipal water. Its a more reasonable option than the whole house reverse osmosis systems. Its not perfect, but at less than $1,100 it is reasonable. It uses a large amount of bone char, which does an excellent job with typical municipal water, and it has a 6 month money back guarantee. The after-the-sale support has been very good. Maintainance is straightforward and not a burden, time-wise or money-wise. I recently added a second system for my kitchen sink to virtually eliminate all fluoride.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 03:18 PM

Yes, THMs are bad (I actually was developing a sensor for them at one point.) What's the point?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:09 PM

LOL! Seriously?! I'm now suspected of being tied to the fluoride industry...

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:11 AM

The fluoride used for water fluoridation (sodium fluoride) is not of pharmaceutical grade; its a hazardous waste product of the phosphate fertilizer industry. It shortens our life span, promotes various cancers and mental disturbances, and most importantly, makes humans stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one neat little package. It is illegal to dump this waste into the sea or local surface water, and yet it is allowed in our drinking water.

32d059a467e99a4fc83201407a4a238d

on January 08, 2013
at 04:45 PM

Matt, do you have ties to the fluoride industry? You're so defensive. Everyone here is just trying to have a reasonable discussion about a well-documented health risk.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:11 AM

The American government’s atomic weapons program also produced huge amounts of fluoride and have been sued by famers for the damage done to their cattle. Christopher Bryson’s widely acclaimed book The Fluoride Deception includes dozens of peer-reviewed studies showing that sodium fluoride is a deadly neurotoxin that attacks the central nervous system and leads to a multitude of serious health problems. This fact has been covered up by a collusion of government and industry who have reaped financial windfalls while illegally mass medicating the public against their will.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:13 PM

David is confusing so many different things, which I illustrated with his chlorine confusion. His fluorine confusion is similar: PTFE/byproducts, fluoride, fluorine, organo-fluorines... these are all very different things with all different issues. Only one (fluoride) has any bearing on the fluoridation of water disucssion.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:12 AM

A 2008 Scientific American reportconcluded that “Scientific attitudes toward fluoridation may be starting to shift” as new evidence emerges of the poison’s link to disorders affecting teeth, bones, the brain, and the thyroid gland, as well as lowering IQ. The Scientific American study “concluded that fluoride can subtly alter endocrine function, especially in the thyroid.” “In summary, evidence of several types indicates that fluoride affects normal endocrine function or response; the effects of the fluoride-induced changes vary in degree and kind in different individuals.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 02:45 PM

Confusing different chemicals makes the chemist in me cry... Chloride, chlorine, chlorinated water... different things!

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 03:24 PM

The point is that there is no confusion about the fact that chlorine added to municipal water forms THMs, and they are not something most people would knowingly risk ingesting.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:12 AM

Fluoride is therefore an endocrine disruptor in the broad sense of altering normal endocrine function or response, although probably not in the sense of mimicking a normal hormone. The mechanisms of action remain to be worked out and appear to include both direct and indirect mechanisms, for example, direct stimulation or inhibition of hormone secretion by interference with second messenger function, indirect stimulation or inhibition of hormone secretion by effects on things such as calcium balance, and inhibition of peripheral enzymes that are necessary for activation of the normal hormone”

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 08:28 PM

MATT MAKES $ OFF OF CHEMICALS. HE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THE ABOVE INFO. DOES HE???

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 03:36 PM

Thought the question was about fluoride?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 08, 2013
at 05:12 PM

Well-documented? Not really... Legit studies showing real problems with fluoride are few and far between. Links to cancer? It's a wash, there's no trend. Links to bone disease? None. Link to reduced dental caries? Yes. Where's the significant health risk? The science isn't behind it.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 03:54 PM

It was. You went off subject: "Chloride, chlorine, chlorinated water... different things!". This was an attempt to cast doubt on the credibility my comment. You have been exposed, troll.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:14 AM

In 2005, a study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health found that fluoride in tap water directly contributes to causing bone cancer in young boys.“New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma—bone cancer—between the ages of 10 and 19,” according to a London Observer article about the study.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 08, 2013
at 03:06 PM

Trihalomethanes (THM) are a group of four chemicals that are formed along with other disinfection by products when chlorine or other disinfectants used to control microbial contaminants in drinking water react with naturally occurring organic and inorganic matter in water. The trihalomethanes are chloroform, bromodichloromethane, dibromochloromethane, and bromoform. They are Cancer Group B carcinogens (shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals). Trichloromethane (chloroform) is by far the most common in most water systems. Dibromochloromethane is the most serious cancer risk.

85ab8328de1aabccf880f050983b6f03

on January 09, 2013
at 12:11 AM

To make matters worse, water fluoridation of public water supplies receives no oversight from the Food and Drug Administration, and the Environmental Protection Agency takes no responsibility for the practice. And from an ethical standpoint, water fluoridation is a bad medical practice; individuals are being forced to take medication without their informed consent; there is no control over the dose and no monitoring of possible side effects.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 14, 2013
at 01:11 PM

See, you've gotten totally bent out of shape, while I'm skeptical of the claims of fluoride fearmongers, I'm certainly not a fan of fluoride in general. You do yourself no flavors by evoking Alex Jones-esque conspiracy theories about mind control.

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81348acb7b886e2b32ca915d250268f3

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:51 AM

I've been concerned about fluoride for some time now, however my inertia has gotten the better of me; I haven't really made any attempt to minimise my exposure to it.

I'm wondering if there is any form of political effort to stop the treatment of water? I'm in Australia and I know of none.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on January 08, 2013
at 09:26 AM

not all of the drinking water supply in Australia is fluoridated, it depends on where you live. tho most major areas are. you should be able to find out by checking the web site of your particular water supplier.

81348acb7b886e2b32ca915d250268f3

(1022)

on January 08, 2013
at 09:51 AM

Metro Melbourne, so I'm guessing it is. That said, our tap water does taste superb :)

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 08, 2013
at 12:41 PM

Probably 90% conspiracy, 10% real concerns. You're not getting a balanced view of the subject simply reading one side. Hell, Wikipedia is arguably a better read that some of the above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy

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