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Neolithic to Paleo movement

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 14, 2011 at 4:42 AM

Hi, i need help to change this around so that i can still maintain performance but also lose fat. I have had my RMR and BMR metabolically tested, and my rmr is 1450 and my BMR is 2430. How would i go about it? just eat a good piece of lean protein, some starch, lots of greens and a small dose of olive oil? Ill post my diet below from a non-paleo nutritionist and if i could have some help tweaking it that would be great to be paleo friendly: brekky:2 whole eggs, 4 egg whites extra 1/2 cup spinach, 1 tomato grilled, buckwheat toast (open grill i assume) snack: 20 mixed raw nuts, 1 scoop whey isolate in water lunch: 160g cooked size chicken breast with large salad (cucumber,red onion, kale and salad mix, red quinoa. 1 tblespoon olive dressing (olive oil,lemon, and apple cider vinegar) snack: 200g organic natural/sheep/goat yogurt with maca and acai berry mix powder pre training: 1 cup juice from apple, banana, kale, spinach, beetroot, pineapple dinner: 200g cooked wild caught salmon, 2 cups greens (broccoli etc) 1/2 cup sweet potato. so really, im trying to negate fruit (even though the juice has the pulp retained and its quiet thick to drink, and get rid of nuts, how would i make this work so i can still lose some weight and drop fat? This was done for me a few weeks before i started paleo. I started to follow paleo and ate heaps of fat, now i know i need carbs. i love paleo and want to take the results i got from my metabolic testing and use them to the best of my ability to get "shredded" pardon the cliche bodybuilding term. I just want to be proud of how hard i train and my times are getting better but also, want to impress/look good naked :)

thanks heaps

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 15, 2011
at 01:31 AM

Thanks man... I love my berries over all fruit and usually mix it with cinnamon and maca powder. Gotta catch sales!!!

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 15, 2011
at 01:06 AM

Yes. EVCO is fine. I switch back and forth between a German brand and this which is available in the states: http://amzn.com/B00014D37W. I prefer refined others prefer virgin pressed. For fruits eat whatever you like best and rotate among them. I eat them all and usually just pick up whatever catches my eye. So for instance today they had a special on ripened papaya, oranges, and figs, so I got about 2-3 days worth. In 2-3 days maybe bananas or strawberries will be on sale. Basically though my philosophy is to rotate that type of stuff and eat the fruits that interest you.

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(12857)

on October 15, 2011
at 12:37 AM

Sugar is good for you.

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 11:58 PM

Nice. You eat coconut oil? I can't get my hands on grass fed tallow/lard so EVCO is my best choice. What fruits do you suggest? Thanks ED

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 14, 2011
at 10:03 PM

I don't eat olive oil for personal reasons mostly because I'm a stickler about plant stuff. But if you like it I don't see why you can't. I believe last time I checked olive oil was still on the "mother approved" list.

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 09:30 PM

Fruit choices? Low GI like berries or others? The whole fruit deal and sugar confuses me

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 09:29 PM

Another thing is I cook with a George foreman grill. So I don't use oils when cooking as I do eat rather lean meats. Can I add some olive oil to veggies and salads? Of course if it's grass fed mince it's always 95% lean and the salmon I don't add to it cause it's a fatty fish. But chicken breast and lean steaks. You guys have been so helpful!!!

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 14, 2011
at 01:31 PM

who cares what jonh welbourne thinks, he has no proof fruit is unhealthy. In your case your doing yourself a disservice by avoiding it.

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B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 14, 2011
at 10:19 AM

You're making this more complex than it needs to be. Eat fruit, starch, meat and eggs, and your fat will come from the eggs and natural fat in the meat. Don't add fat except for cooking and on your potatoes.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 14, 2011
at 10:03 PM

I don't eat olive oil for personal reasons mostly because I'm a stickler about plant stuff. But if you like it I don't see why you can't. I believe last time I checked olive oil was still on the "mother approved" list.

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 09:29 PM

Another thing is I cook with a George foreman grill. So I don't use oils when cooking as I do eat rather lean meats. Can I add some olive oil to veggies and salads? Of course if it's grass fed mince it's always 95% lean and the salmon I don't add to it cause it's a fatty fish. But chicken breast and lean steaks. You guys have been so helpful!!!

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 11:58 PM

Nice. You eat coconut oil? I can't get my hands on grass fed tallow/lard so EVCO is my best choice. What fruits do you suggest? Thanks ED

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 15, 2011
at 01:31 AM

Thanks man... I love my berries over all fruit and usually mix it with cinnamon and maca powder. Gotta catch sales!!!

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 15, 2011
at 01:06 AM

Yes. EVCO is fine. I switch back and forth between a German brand and this which is available in the states: http://amzn.com/B00014D37W. I prefer refined others prefer virgin pressed. For fruits eat whatever you like best and rotate among them. I eat them all and usually just pick up whatever catches my eye. So for instance today they had a special on ripened papaya, oranges, and figs, so I got about 2-3 days worth. In 2-3 days maybe bananas or strawberries will be on sale. Basically though my philosophy is to rotate that type of stuff and eat the fruits that interest you.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on October 14, 2011
at 05:00 AM

Your carbs are pretty low and theirs no point in eating egg whites over whole eggs. Red meat is generally better than chicken but if your consuming pastured chicken and make bone stocks its not too big of a deal.

Personally I would drop some of the greens and the whey protein, up the starchy vegetables and fruit. Maybe add in a bit more animal fat via butter, tallow or similar sources. If you don't eat seafood or liver it might be a good idea to supp vit A, iodine and selenium as well.

If your trying to lose the last bit of weight to get shredded don't expect it to happen overnight. Stick with a healthy eating plan, keep stress low and eventually you'll get there.

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109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 09:25 PM

Another thing is I cook with a George foreman grill. So I don't use oils when cooking as I do eat rather lean meats. Can I add some olive oil to veggies and salads? Of course if it's grass fed mince it's always 95% lean and the salmon I don't add to it cause it's a fatty fish. But chicken breast and lean steaks. You guys have been so helpful!!!

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109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 12:10 PM

That is basically all I wanted to know. Not a sweet tooth but I do like berries. Post workout may be my berry fix. Thanks man

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on October 14, 2011
at 05:48 AM

Thanks. I am trying to drop fruit after listening to John welbourne and his CFFB site. I love salmon. Free range Chicken breast with no skin. I eat grass fed steak and mince. I mix up protein at dinner with salmon 3 times a week. I love my veggies though lol At brekky, what would you suggest then? Thank you so much

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 15, 2011
at 12:37 AM

Sugar is good for you.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 14, 2011
at 01:31 PM

who cares what jonh welbourne thinks, he has no proof fruit is unhealthy. In your case your doing yourself a disservice by avoiding it.

109c50779c3875f1864635d8ffc328c3

on October 14, 2011
at 09:30 PM

Fruit choices? Low GI like berries or others? The whole fruit deal and sugar confuses me

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