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just started paleo, very fatigued..

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Created August 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM

so i recently went paleo. basically doing only fish/some red meat and a lot of veggies. during the first week i had a lot of shaking and intense sugar cravings.

that is gone now but i am so lethargic and have incredible brain fog. can barely function and just want to lay down all day.

its been 2 weeks since starting paleo, based off experience how much longer do i have to deal with this before i break through and get the benefits of going paleo in terms of energy/mental clarity

6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

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on August 27, 2012
at 12:04 PM

The links below from Mark Sisson's site should clear it up for you. Let me know if you have any other questions. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fat-adapted/#axzz24kOaUZwI http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fat-adapted-part-2-qa/#axzz24kOgeJXv

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on August 27, 2012
at 12:43 AM

This is the natural state of someone who lacks metabolic flexibility when carbs are taken away. This person can't access their own fat stores for energy. THAT is the unnatural state to be in.

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on August 27, 2012
at 12:42 AM

The point is to restore metabolic flexibility.

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on August 27, 2012
at 12:40 AM

I felt like, but for 5 weeks! Yes, salt! And magnesium, potassium and drink some water and don't exercise too much in the hot sun.

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on August 26, 2012
at 11:43 PM

Almost everyone I've talked to that went low carb felt like crap for two weeks, including myself. One day, in week three, all the sudden, we went "Hey, I feel great!" You're right there. Just keep doing it and this week you'll suddenly realize that you've haven't felt that good in a long time!

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on August 26, 2012
at 11:22 PM

Try some salt. Thats right, salt. Put a lot of it on your next meal.

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on August 26, 2012
at 11:19 PM

white rice......

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on August 26, 2012
at 11:14 PM

How could I have forgotten my beloved avocado?! YES ON THAT.

47edf681280750c3712a3a56f2eae33b

on August 26, 2012
at 11:01 PM

I'm all about my cup of black drip coffee every morning.

47edf681280750c3712a3a56f2eae33b

on August 26, 2012
at 10:59 PM

Prolly rude to ask a question within a question, but JB you seem so knowledgeable about this. I'm a newb 4 months in, have lost 20lbs and am stabilizing around a 21 bmi. So, SAD one is burning glucose going Paleo the body adapts to burning fat? Have you a link on your blog that covers this. The science is way beyond my ability to retain, but I am seeing results, so...

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:38 PM

Avocado is great and maybe a handful of nuts here and there if you can keep it under control.

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:18 PM

Continue till you get your energy back. Make sure you are eating enough calories regardless of whether they are carbs. After that, it depends on your energy and activity level. Start with veggies, if you need more experiment with potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, rice, etc...

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:13 PM

cool! so how much longer should i continue this strict diet for? also, what kind of carbs can i add in at that point?

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Ghee is liquid at room temp - so use it to cook meat and veggies, or drizzle anywhere you'd use butter as a condiment. :)

5f6d15c9dd935b6fed3623caf984c14e

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:03 PM

ive heard alot of good things about ghee, how would i incoporate that into my diet, just off the spoon? or let it melt on my veggies?

5f6d15c9dd935b6fed3623caf984c14e

(439)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:02 PM

having a hard time digesting carbs at this point, have digestive issues, thats why im doing paleo in the first place. cant really digest tubers or i get digestive issues... any advice?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on August 26, 2012
at 09:53 PM

Depends on what kind of fish/meats you are eating! I know that, for me, I don't get enough from just my meat and fish intake. Pretty much any animal fat is good for you whether is is bacon fat, butter/ghee, schmaltz, lard, tallow etc (grassfed/pastured is better and all but you don't have to get bogged down in the details to start). Coconut oil is a big favorite around here though I don't actually use it myself, and extra virgin olive oil is great on salads.

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Don't eat more carbs... Yet

I was the same way, almost three weeks of detox. Fourth week I felt great, keep it up. Once you feel the energy come back, then you can start reintroducing foods. Paleo is an elimination diet, you have to start tight, and expand slowly!

5f6d15c9dd935b6fed3623caf984c14e

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:13 PM

cool! so how much longer should i continue this strict diet for? also, what kind of carbs can i add in at that point?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:18 PM

Continue till you get your energy back. Make sure you are eating enough calories regardless of whether they are carbs. After that, it depends on your energy and activity level. Start with veggies, if you need more experiment with potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, rice, etc...

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:38 PM

exactly, don't eat more carbs. It's like a junkie trying to get clean. It takes time man. I've been on and off paleo a bunch of times. Just cut sugar the other day and was feeling lethargic but now I'm kind of over it. stuff yourself with some organic spinach, water and free range meats and you'll definitely be glad you stuck with it.

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on August 26, 2012
at 09:32 PM

Eat some non-exotic fruits (fruits are Paleo, no matter what regimens like Whole30 tell you), and definitely eat more meat & fat. Make sure you also eat some of the veggies raw as a salad, not only cooked. Drink enough water. All this should clear things out in a day or two.

Also eat eggs, and I would not be so militant about dairy. As long as it's fermented (e.g. yogurt, kefir, feta, mizithra), and it's from goat/sheep/buffalo (not cows -- they have a different casein), it's good for most people.

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on August 26, 2012
at 09:31 PM

Sounds like you're going through some serious glucose withdrawal. It's different for everyone, but if you were supper gluked prior to going Paleo, it'll take some time to become fat-adapted.

Hang in there. I would suggest adding maybe a piece of fruit to ease the pain. When I started, I was a sugar burning machine and knew it. So I ate as much fruit as I wanted the first two weeks, and still lost about 6 pounds those first couple of weeks. After that, I just sort of naturally moved away from the fruit and cut down my carbs even more. Your body will naturally adjust.

Please hang in there and you'll be glad you did.

http://www.jbprimal.com

47edf681280750c3712a3a56f2eae33b

on August 26, 2012
at 10:59 PM

Prolly rude to ask a question within a question, but JB you seem so knowledgeable about this. I'm a newb 4 months in, have lost 20lbs and am stabilizing around a 21 bmi. So, SAD one is burning glucose going Paleo the body adapts to burning fat? Have you a link on your blog that covers this. The science is way beyond my ability to retain, but I am seeing results, so...

6bce08b072e3cea49b292658b9d5d197

(1144)

on August 27, 2012
at 12:04 PM

The links below from Mark Sisson's site should clear it up for you. Let me know if you have any other questions. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fat-adapted/#axzz24kOaUZwI http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fat-adapted-part-2-qa/#axzz24kOgeJXv

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on August 26, 2012
at 09:36 PM

what types of fat would be good for me? or am i getting enough fats through my protein sources ie fish/ meat

F074daf8ee19a4c101c533b7fdab708a

(284)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:38 PM

Avocado is great and maybe a handful of nuts here and there if you can keep it under control.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 26, 2012
at 09:53 PM

Depends on what kind of fish/meats you are eating! I know that, for me, I don't get enough from just my meat and fish intake. Pretty much any animal fat is good for you whether is is bacon fat, butter/ghee, schmaltz, lard, tallow etc (grassfed/pastured is better and all but you don't have to get bogged down in the details to start). Coconut oil is a big favorite around here though I don't actually use it myself, and extra virgin olive oil is great on salads.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 26, 2012
at 11:14 PM

How could I have forgotten my beloved avocado?! YES ON THAT.

5f6d15c9dd935b6fed3623caf984c14e

(439)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:03 PM

ive heard alot of good things about ghee, how would i incoporate that into my diet, just off the spoon? or let it melt on my veggies?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Ghee is liquid at room temp - so use it to cook meat and veggies, or drizzle anywhere you'd use butter as a condiment. :)

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on August 26, 2012
at 09:32 PM

You are probably through the worst of it. It took me about two weeks & I ate similarly to you, except that I would eat a piece of fruit once or twice a week. It's a different experience for each person, but you'll never want to go back. Remember, it's not a religion & you won't go to diet hell for making adjustments. Experiment to find out what works best for you. Hang in there, you're doing great!

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on August 27, 2012
at 07:16 AM

You are withdrawing from sugar! This will be over soon:) Dont listen to those who say you need to eat more carbs, they probly work for some large corporation with shares in corn or wheat production, lol. If you get tired exercise more and eat more. I find bananas are excellent at alleviating this feeling. Besides the minerals they have a drug called tryptophan which stimulates serotonin production and thus makes you feel happy.

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on August 27, 2012
at 12:09 AM

I remember wanting to sleep all the time for the first few weeks on the diet. It was one of the few times I was glad I didn't have a job to go to. I would have been snoozing at work. I toughed it out, and after a couple of dozen long nights of sleep and innumerable naps, I felt great!

Not everyone is the same, so just hang in there! You'll be so glad you did. And when you see negative responses, just remember that negativity is good for nothing no matter how long the post is and no matter how many big words are used...unless you're into physics and stuff I don't know much about.

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:42 PM

do you drink coffee at all? a strong cup of black coffee will perk you up. or, if you haven't heard about it, bulletproof coffee might be something you'd be interested in looking up. a good way to up your fat intake and give you some solid clean energy.

47edf681280750c3712a3a56f2eae33b

on August 26, 2012
at 11:01 PM

I'm all about my cup of black drip coffee every morning.

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on August 26, 2012
at 09:49 PM

EAT MORE CARBS. That is not a natural state to be in.

5f6d15c9dd935b6fed3623caf984c14e

(439)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:02 PM

having a hard time digesting carbs at this point, have digestive issues, thats why im doing paleo in the first place. cant really digest tubers or i get digestive issues... any advice?

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

(6719)

on August 26, 2012
at 11:19 PM

white rice......

F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

(4266)

on August 27, 2012
at 12:43 AM

This is the natural state of someone who lacks metabolic flexibility when carbs are taken away. This person can't access their own fat stores for energy. THAT is the unnatural state to be in.

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1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

on August 26, 2012
at 11:21 PM

Why bother putting your body through this like a million others have just to go back to eating carbs anyway?? Other than to see what happens there is little point really. If you want to lose fat, eat less calories. They are all that matter in that equation anyway.

F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

(4266)

on August 27, 2012
at 12:42 AM

The point is to restore metabolic flexibility.

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