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Is there any way to go somewhat paleo if you are a vegetarian?

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Created March 15, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I have been a vegetarian athlete since the age of 8, but am very interested in the paleo lifestyle, is there a way to incorporate a paleo lifesyle, while staying strict vegetarian?

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on March 16, 2013
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So what I'm saying is that maybe such a low protein requirement might be "ok" for the average american with their low expectations. But based on my experience with people back home, and after I started eating like home again? Nope!, I don't think that amount of protein is nowhere near enough. I'll eat my protein and I'll be a strong woman, dammit! (Again, I don't even exercise! Imagine what a beast I would be if I did!)

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on March 16, 2013
at 02:57 PM

So I think that such a low protein requirement might be passable for the average american based on their average expectations, based on my previous experience it's nowhere near as good as it could be.

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on March 16, 2013
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I'm not trying to brag about being a strong young girl, everyone where I'm from was also very strong and muscular, yes, even us young girls and even old ladies.

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on March 16, 2013
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Don't think so, I lost all my muscle when I was vegetarian. Sure, I was "ok" compared to other average americans. But compared to back home? Nope! I regained all my muscle back once I started eating paleo, even without exercising. NOTE: as a young 10-16 year old girl (pre-vegetarian diet) I was a very muscular girl, much stronger and muscular than an american 20yr old male. So don't judge protein needs based "on normal american people" but on traditional people instead. For more comparison, my 62 year old mother is much stronger than most adult american males and she's a really tiny lady.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on March 16, 2013
at 02:53 PM

Don't think so, I lost all my muscle when I was vegetarian. Sure, I was "ok" compared to other average males. I regained all my muscle back once I started eating paleo, even without exercising. NOTE: as a young 10-16 year old girl (pre-vegetarian diet) I was a very muscular girl, much stronger and muscular than an american 20yr old male. So don't judge protein needs based "on normal american people" but on traditional people instead. For more comparison, my 62 year old mother is much stronger than most adult american males and she's a really tiny lady.

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on March 15, 2013
at 08:03 PM

You're a little high on protein needs. Minimum protein needs are pretty low, easily achieveable with mostly plants. 10 eggs and 4 cups milk? That's 90 grams of protein, nearly twice the minimum (50 grams per day is enough for nitrogen balance).

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on March 15, 2013
at 05:53 PM

In this area the Salish were pretty good with digging sticks for gathering clams and roots. They also peeled a lot of bark. Certain trees have edible cambium, others were used for basket making. They couldn't survive on berries, roots and bark alone; but they didn't shun anything they could use.

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on March 15, 2013
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http://www.paleoplan.com/2012/06-28/can-a-vegetarian-or-vegan-be-paleo/

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on March 15, 2013
at 05:26 PM

Similar thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/4533/is-it-possible-to-be-vegetarian-and-eat-paleo#axzz2NYsWVBbk

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on March 15, 2013
at 05:06 PM

Do you new to grunt and catch your broccoli with a spear?

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on March 15, 2013
at 04:39 PM

Read the "Vegetarian Myth" by Lierre Keith to get some great insight about why eating humanely-raised animals is a good thing.

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on March 15, 2013
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No, because Paleo man was not vegetarian. If you're "squeamish" about eating meat or fish, get yourself some organic, free-range eggs and eat several a day. Would you consider cooking in animal fats (lard, suet, etc.) as breaking your vegetarianism?

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on March 15, 2013
at 05:08 PM

I think you could do modified paleo. If you're thinking of going grain-free and keeping legumes, make sure you prepare the legumes carefully (that is, soaking/fermenting/sprouting/etc.). I disagree with others here that legumes are going to hurt you badly unless you're dealing with health problems. Preparing the legumes properly probably takes care of most of the issues.

You need less protein than a lot of people seem to think, so if you eat eggs, organic dairy, and get rid of gluten/grains, seed oils (like soy, corn, canola), non-fermented soy, and excess sugar you're going to be doing better than most.

I agree with others that you might want to consider bivalves. They're highly nutritious and don't have a central nervous system. They're also a sustainable animal product.

Also--This has been discussed before. I'd do a quick search. :)

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19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on March 15, 2013
at 04:20 PM

Are you doing it for ethical reasons (animal pain?), and if so, would you consider eating mollusks?

I suppose if you eat lots of eggs and milk everyday it's possible.

You won't be eating legumes or grains, will you? How are you going to get all your protein?

Nuts don't count, it's not healthy to eat that many nuts everyday.

You would need to eat 10 eggs and four cups of milk everyday to just barely meet your protein requirement as a grown woman.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on March 16, 2013
at 02:56 PM

I'm not trying to brag about being a strong young girl, everyone where I'm from was also very strong and muscular, yes, even us young girls and even old ladies.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 15, 2013
at 08:03 PM

You're a little high on protein needs. Minimum protein needs are pretty low, easily achieveable with mostly plants. 10 eggs and 4 cups milk? That's 90 grams of protein, nearly twice the minimum (50 grams per day is enough for nitrogen balance).

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on March 16, 2013
at 03:40 PM

So what I'm saying is that maybe such a low protein requirement might be "ok" for the average american with their low expectations. But based on my experience with people back home, and after I started eating like home again? Nope!, I don't think that amount of protein is nowhere near enough. I'll eat my protein and I'll be a strong woman, dammit! (Again, I don't even exercise! Imagine what a beast I would be if I did!)

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on March 16, 2013
at 02:57 PM

So I think that such a low protein requirement might be passable for the average american based on their average expectations, based on my previous experience it's nowhere near as good as it could be.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on March 16, 2013
at 02:55 PM

Don't think so, I lost all my muscle when I was vegetarian. Sure, I was "ok" compared to other average americans. But compared to back home? Nope! I regained all my muscle back once I started eating paleo, even without exercising. NOTE: as a young 10-16 year old girl (pre-vegetarian diet) I was a very muscular girl, much stronger and muscular than an american 20yr old male. So don't judge protein needs based "on normal american people" but on traditional people instead. For more comparison, my 62 year old mother is much stronger than most adult american males and she's a really tiny lady.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on March 16, 2013
at 02:53 PM

Don't think so, I lost all my muscle when I was vegetarian. Sure, I was "ok" compared to other average males. I regained all my muscle back once I started eating paleo, even without exercising. NOTE: as a young 10-16 year old girl (pre-vegetarian diet) I was a very muscular girl, much stronger and muscular than an american 20yr old male. So don't judge protein needs based "on normal american people" but on traditional people instead. For more comparison, my 62 year old mother is much stronger than most adult american males and she's a really tiny lady.

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on March 15, 2013
at 04:35 PM

*Response contains links. I suggest you open them in a new tab...

And you use the terminology of "paleo lifestyle." I find that interesting, because the paleo lifestyle is much more well-rounded than just what you put into your body. The paleo lifestyle has to do with the life habits that ULTIMATELY ADD TO YOUR HEALTH.

I recommend reading through this article by Mark Sisson of Mark's Daily Apple: 10 Habits of Highly Successful Hunter-Gatherers

And if you want to dive right into his full-fledged message, you can buy his book (The Primal Connection).

I know your question was more about what you put into your body, and I see that wise-repliers are already giving you great ideas. I hope my post and theirs help greatly.

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on March 15, 2013
at 04:32 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/51442/compassionate-paleo#axzz2Ncpduw

would definitely be advantageous to your performance, health, and over all well-being if you could incorporate some seafood into your current diet.

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on March 15, 2013
at 04:24 PM

If your lifestyle emulates hunt-and-gather behavior (and if you're an athlete you're doing the job better than most Paleos who think it's all diet) I award you the grade of C. You can do better! Start by eating seafood.

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on March 15, 2013
at 05:53 PM

In this area the Salish were pretty good with digging sticks for gathering clams and roots. They also peeled a lot of bark. Certain trees have edible cambium, others were used for basket making. They couldn't survive on berries, roots and bark alone; but they didn't shun anything they could use.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on March 15, 2013
at 05:06 PM

Do you new to grunt and catch your broccoli with a spear?

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