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If you could take one thing out of my diet..

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Created April 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM

I'm pretty much eating clean, diet consists of mass amounts of greens (kale, arugula, spinach, etc.,), occasional fruit and mass amounts of boneless/skinless chicken breast, tilapia, salmon, an occasional grass fed beef burder, and mass amounts of chicken broth and eggs.

Here is the 10% of my diet that I want to cut down on, I want to make it a slow progression to go 100% clean eating. I think these following foods are what's holding me back from eating completely clean (and Paleo) but out of all of these evils what's the one thing you would absolutely remove (or taper down) from my diet?

  1. [Supreme Protein Carb Conscious Bars] at least one a day lately1
  2. 400mg of caffeine (starbucks coffee/dash of cinnamon/powdered creamer)
  3. Powdered creamer
  4. Whey protein (tapering down on this; trying to cut dairy out of the diet)
  5. Mass amounts of bacon (at least 6 strips a day)
  6. Red wine (glass or two a day)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I should probably take the protein bars out of my daily intake, the ingredients are pretty gnarly and filled with 4-7 syllable ingredients that I couldn't even begin to pronounce but maybe it's the caffeine as well.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 02, 2012
at 01:07 AM

That's true. I always just add salt to satiety. I think our bodies naturally tell us what we need once acclimated.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 01, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Salty bacon isn't a problem when the processed foods are removed. I'd be willing to bet most of us don't consume enough salt.

Ba20b502cf02b5513ea8c4bb2740d8cb

(1669)

on April 26, 2012
at 11:05 PM

Yeah everybody and their mamma is talking about bone broth...is that something that I just make myself or is that something that I can buy pre-made.

D63a9a7789b948a1e88647f6c0e504ca

(1453)

on April 26, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Actually it's full of partially hydrogenated oil -- TRANS FAT. And sugar too. About the worst possible substance you could consume. Read the ingredients and throw that crap out out out.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:56 AM

I want to +5 you, Ingenol! I was thinking the same thing.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:52 AM

I think that James Joyce referred to cheese as, "the corpses of milk." I can only wonder what Mr. Joyce may have thought of powdered creamer. I like your mom's term!

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on April 26, 2012
at 01:34 AM

Many Starbucks are now carrying Kerry Gold unsalted. They will look at you sideways at first, but will mix it in whatever.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:26 AM

I assume the powdered creamer is actually non-dairy, so it's essentially just sugar, no cholesterol.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 26, 2012
at 12:03 AM

Yeah. I don't eat them on a consistent basis, but a couple times a year I'll find myself reaching for one when I'm in a pinch. I always just keep a case of each of bars in the freezer and then toss a few in my luggage when I'm traveling, just in case. I've probably had 2 bars in the past year, and 10 in my life.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 25, 2012
at 11:13 PM

dude, I used to freaking LOVE the ThinkThin bars. If it didn't have soy, I'd probably use it to "cheat" but out of everything (including wheat and oils), soy affects me health-wise the most.

Ba20b502cf02b5513ea8c4bb2740d8cb

(1669)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:06 PM

haha...you must listen to Rob Wolff too, he's always raving about having an occasional heavy cream dose with his java. Yeah, something about the flavor of the owdered creamer really does it for me. I think the overall consensus is 86'ing the creamer; which I'm going to do immediately, that's an easy fix. Protein bar is going to be another mountain to overcome. I've basically taken out all the refined sugar out of my diet, barring an occasional cheat meal in the week, and the protein bar is my way to substitute my sweet tooth.

2fdb7a6236b04bdfc3dacaf2bc236515

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on April 25, 2012
at 10:06 PM

How much coffee are you drinking a day? 400mg of caffeine seems like a lot. I would cut out the protein bars and powdered creamer entirely--can't really choose between the two because they're both pretty gnarly.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:05 PM

Depending on the ingredient list in the bacon and protein bars, I may switch them...

76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

(2178)

on April 25, 2012
at 09:48 PM

agreed. my mom calls that powdered creamer stuff "dust"

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2fd566cefde2de38e75e1bc13a966e16

on April 26, 2012
at 01:19 AM

I know you didn't ask this, but if I could ADD one thing to your diet it would be more healthy fats! Seems like you're getting a lot of PUFAs but not too much saturated fat.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:56 AM

I want to +5 you, Ingenol! I was thinking the same thing.

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0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:25 PM

One more vote for getting rid of the powdered creamer - the cholesterol in it will have been oxidized during the heavy processing it goes through.

D63a9a7789b948a1e88647f6c0e504ca

(1453)

on April 26, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Actually it's full of partially hydrogenated oil -- TRANS FAT. And sugar too. About the worst possible substance you could consume. Read the ingredients and throw that crap out out out.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:26 AM

I assume the powdered creamer is actually non-dairy, so it's essentially just sugar, no cholesterol.

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A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:59 AM

What's going on today with the boneless and skinless chicken breasts? It's leaving out the best part! I think the closest I come to meditating is when I am spaced out and just gnawing on a bone. I'm telling you, there are some deep and ancestral emotions going on at these times. I'm with Ingenol, add some healthy fats. It sounds like you are good on Omega 6, add some 3s.

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78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

on April 25, 2012
at 09:00 PM

I think the easiest to switch out would be the powdered creamer. Real cream or half and half is soooo much better. If you still want your starbucks, just go for their real cream or half and half on the counter...don't use the powder! You won't miss it at all.

But yes, if you only wanted to eliminate one...I'd pick the protein bar.

Medium avatar

on April 26, 2012
at 01:34 AM

Many Starbucks are now carrying Kerry Gold unsalted. They will look at you sideways at first, but will mix it in whatever.

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De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

(2227)

on April 25, 2012
at 08:58 PM

My uneducated opinion: #1 and #3. Why not heavy cream?

Ba20b502cf02b5513ea8c4bb2740d8cb

(1669)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:06 PM

haha...you must listen to Rob Wolff too, he's always raving about having an occasional heavy cream dose with his java. Yeah, something about the flavor of the owdered creamer really does it for me. I think the overall consensus is 86'ing the creamer; which I'm going to do immediately, that's an easy fix. Protein bar is going to be another mountain to overcome. I've basically taken out all the refined sugar out of my diet, barring an occasional cheat meal in the week, and the protein bar is my way to substitute my sweet tooth.

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on April 26, 2012
at 12:54 AM

I would drop (in this order)

Protein Bar - I used to eat these chocolate-dipped cat turds until I read the ingredients (then I think I would have been happier if it were a cat turd). Make your own or just don't eat the damn things.

Powdered creamer - The amount of crap that is put into powdered non-dairy creamer horrible stuff, really.

Whey - I would drop unless it's one of the more "pure" CFM isolates, for instance IsoPure and some of the offerings from TrueProtein are VERY low in lactose.

Leave the caffeine, unless you think it's a problem or you can't sleep. Leave the red wine as well, under the same circumstances (I've put down two glasses of Pinot Noir tonight). And eat the bacon. It's tasty and it won't kill you (as quickly as the above items).

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A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

on April 25, 2012
at 09:16 PM

Dude,

If I could remove one thing from your diet, it would probably be the powdered creamer. I'm not crazy about the protein bar, but at least that provides something beneficial. The powdered creamer provides no nutrition.

By the way, it sounds like a pretty great life that you lead. Kudos, my friend.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:52 AM

I think that James Joyce referred to cheese as, "the corpses of milk." I can only wonder what Mr. Joyce may have thought of powdered creamer. I like your mom's term!

76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

(2178)

on April 25, 2012
at 09:48 PM

agreed. my mom calls that powdered creamer stuff "dust"

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A5410f987b53c5dc97e8a457c6832ed7

(434)

on April 26, 2012
at 12:00 AM

From the standpoint of most to least processed combined with most to least problematic in general, here's the order I would consider adjusting or removing...

  • powdered creamer
  • protein bar
  • whey
  • bacon

Bacon isn't the healthiest cut of meat, especially if it's sourced from factory farmed pork. That being said, I'd leave bacon and caffeine alone until you experiment with eliminating the others. Keep the red wine... it's a good vice in moderation! :)

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93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 25, 2012
at 11:06 PM

You say you are eating clean yet you just listed off four things that I see as being detrimental to a paleo lifestyle (personally, wine is fine in moderation as long as you realize it does have natural sugar and bacon is fine too provided it is a GOOD brand, but it is a little salty..) Maybe your problem isn't the products you are eating, but that you need to increase fats to get rid of these cravings for these un-paleo products.

To answer your questions eliminate #3! Is "powdered" creamer even a food? After that, eliminate the protein bar, there are many other foods that can satiate your cravings besides that :)!

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 02, 2012
at 01:07 AM

That's true. I always just add salt to satiety. I think our bodies naturally tell us what we need once acclimated.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 01, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Salty bacon isn't a problem when the processed foods are removed. I'd be willing to bet most of us don't consume enough salt.

0
E103e4167c321e63e6dbc3c452f9e958

on April 26, 2012
at 01:53 AM

I'd cut down on the creamer and red wine. What are your goals?

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Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:00 AM

What about the mass amounts of chicken broth? Is that just an unnecessary source of polyunsaturated fat? Why not beef bone broth?

Ba20b502cf02b5513ea8c4bb2740d8cb

(1669)

on April 26, 2012
at 11:05 PM

Yeah everybody and their mamma is talking about bone broth...is that something that I just make myself or is that something that I can buy pre-made.

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Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

(3700)

on April 25, 2012
at 11:42 PM

3, then 4, then 1, then maybe 2.

Powdered Creamer. Bad news. Homogenization, pasteurization, and squeezing already nutrient stripped liquids through super small holes is no good. Plus there may be oxidized materials in that...

Whey Protein. For me...n=1, I advise against any sort of liquid nutrition unless you're lean, jacked, and begging for calories. You may be different so take this with a grain of salt.

Bars. Not food. I'd rather go for some delicious ribeyes.

Caffeine. It still is a drug. But it won't kill ya.

Bacon (watch the additives, but it shouldn't be your only meat source.)

Red Wine is fine in moderation. Not sure about everyday, but then again, I'm a one shot wonder, small guy.

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0cddf17fbd678b897beeace676b0df92

on April 25, 2012
at 11:28 PM

I'd ditch the powdered creamer and use half & half or heavy cream.

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Ce2083cca4a8eb4ba43b7927674c5d2c

on April 25, 2012
at 11:08 PM

My votes are for removing the protein bars, the creamer, and the caffeine.

Try coconut milk in your coffee - or heavy cream, baking some paleo bars with nuts and seeds/nut butters, and decaf coffee.

As far as the bacon goes, I don't see why you should get rid of it - but make sure it's uncured/nitrate free.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 25, 2012
at 10:34 PM

Personally I think whey is no good, so the Number 4. If the bars are made with whey and not casein, then those are a no-go in my book. I have no idea what powdered creamer is but why not get the real stuff?

As far as protein bars go, I've only tried 2 in my life. One is called Zero IMpact (pumpkin supreme flavor) and the other is called Think Thin (brownie crunch flavor). These are not optimal calories but from bars they're about the best I've found.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 25, 2012
at 11:13 PM

dude, I used to freaking LOVE the ThinkThin bars. If it didn't have soy, I'd probably use it to "cheat" but out of everything (including wheat and oils), soy affects me health-wise the most.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 26, 2012
at 12:03 AM

Yeah. I don't eat them on a consistent basis, but a couple times a year I'll find myself reaching for one when I'm in a pinch. I always just keep a case of each of bars in the freezer and then toss a few in my luggage when I'm traveling, just in case. I've probably had 2 bars in the past year, and 10 in my life.

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390e84f23831acb87bed4a45797f8d88

on April 25, 2012
at 10:20 PM

I agree. Ditch the powdered creamer. if you're trying to go dairy free try full fat coconut milk. Ditch the bars too.

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570e436702148218e8ab14e818cf2403

(134)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:10 PM

Yup dump it all eat completely clean if u need dairy then drink whole milk. The end I eat clean minus dairy and pr ing all over the place and feel great! I've lost 135 pounds total and now I compete in olympic weightlifting. My lifts keep going up and up and up!

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Af9537cfa50562b67979624e9007e12a

(1334)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:06 PM

yep, another vote for the powdered creamer. go to heavy cream and dump the bars, beef jerky and/or hardboiled eggs instead

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A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:04 PM

Certainly the powdered creamer first... don't see any benefit that could be providing that you couldn't get with heavy cream, which is a much better option and tastes better in coffee... but since you're trying to remove dairy, perhaps learn to like black coffee... channel Whole9 ("beating cancer is hard...drinking your coffee black isn't hard"). Still, I can't see powdered creamer ever being a good option.

I know it's against your rules, but if I could continue on making adjustments to your diet...

(It's really easy to tell others what to do...)

After that, I would probably take out, or at least limit, the bacon because, odds are, it's filled with garbage preservatives/nitrates/etc.

If I fixed that, I would continue by replacing the protein bar with some grassfed beef jerky (or pemmican), then remove the whey protein. Probably wouldn't replace that because your diet is solid enough that it's probably not needed.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about a glass of red wine or a cup of coffee a day.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on April 25, 2012
at 10:05 PM

Depending on the ingredient list in the bacon and protein bars, I may switch them...

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