Hack these numbers

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 31, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Jimmy Moore has been on a very well documented VLCHF ketogenic diet for the past year. On his website he has published blood test results that he has taken over the last 10 years


His numbers as of 10/25/12 (NMR test)

TC 359 LDL-C 285 HDL-C 65 Trigs 46 LDL-P 3451 Small LDL-P 221 ApoB 238

Numbers as of 12/14/12 http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/jimmy-moores-n1-experiments-nutritional-ketosis-day-211-240/17390

TC 419 LDL-C 332 HDL-C 75 Trigs 60

Question - should someone with numbers like this be worried/concerned? Is this "normal" for someone on a VLCHF ketogenic diet? His diet is now 80-15-5 (fats, protein, carbs)

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on April 01, 2013
at 12:34 AM

Many smart people have pondered Jimmy's numbers, including Dr. Tom Dayspring, a chief proponent of using LDL-P as a key marker for CV health. Jimmy even asked him directly during one of Jimmy's podcasts what Dayspring thought, and Dayspring essentially said, "I don't know what to make of your numbers." But by Jimmy's own accounts, he's feeling better and more energetic than ever, and Tom Naughton said Jimmy ran him ragged in Frisbee golf when he visited Tom's new home recently.

I think Jimmy's numbers are an instructive example that we shouldn't rely on any single bilogical marker, even one championed by some thought leaders, as the only way to assess good health.



on April 01, 2013
at 12:28 AM

I haven't checked Jimmy's blog lately but it seems like less than a year ago he was openly experimenting with starchy tubers and showing pictures of foods that were far from ketogenic.

I must have stopped visiting just about a year ago, I guess, so I'll have to stop by. It doesn't sound like the starch experiment went too well.

And as far as the ketogenic diet goes, that depends on his recipes--that's what you'll need to draw any conclusions.

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