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Dr. Joel Fuhrman on the Dr. Oz Show - Top 5 Worst Diets - Thoughts?

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Created January 15, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Dr. Joel Fuhrman names the top diet disasters (in his opinion) on the Dr. Oz show:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/dr-joel-fuhrman-reveals-top-5-diet-disasters-pt-1

  1. Diets in general
  2. Gluten Free
  3. High protein
  4. Fat Free
  5. Calorie Counting (less calories)
  6. More Smaller Meals Per Day

Well Paleohackers, what do you think?

What is your opinion regarding what he said?

UPDATE: Just to clarify... I do not watch Dr. Oz! A friend of mine posted this video on her Facebook wall, which then came across my news feed. I became curious, so I decided to watch the video. After I watched the video I thought to myself... Hey, I should post this on Paleohacks!

D33a8d5f095a8532ddf7a0d6c27bfe63

(578)

on July 29, 2013
at 05:04 AM

He's not obsessed with fiber. He actually wants people to consume healthy fats. He's not low-fat: he wants poeple to eat nuts and avocadoes. He wants people to eat wild caught fish, eggs and grassfed beef too, but limit animal calorie sources to less than 20% of total diet. He's also anti-GMO so no gluten. He actually qualifies as somewhat Paleo. He's into legumes but then so are lots of so called Paleos.

D396b126240f584bc358e6e4fd84e9e3

(455)

on July 28, 2013
at 11:20 PM

Well there's why it works (in the short term at least). You're basically starving yourself but not feeling the effects of hunger due to the sheer mass of fiber you consume in the form of vegetables. You can't survive on 1000 calories a day forever and the weight will come right back once you add back calorically dense food.

D396b126240f584bc358e6e4fd84e9e3

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on July 28, 2013
at 11:06 PM

Yeah right PrimalFit-D, I bet you're his biggest fan. Just Kidding. I usually tend to ignore everything my friends put on facebook. Most of it is crap.

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(10611)

on July 28, 2013
at 09:50 PM

Warped diet. Where's the meat? I still say he's a huckster diet book pimp.

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on January 16, 2013
at 08:45 PM

What bothers me when people use the phrase "high protein diets" is that what they *mean* is high *fat* diets, only most people don't think of low-carb as necessarily higher fat, but higher protein. It's people's way of bashing low-carb without having to *say* "low-carb."

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on January 16, 2013
at 12:56 PM

Also, I'd love to see a case study on a patient who induced protein toxicity by a "high protein diet". Surely there's quite a few out there, as its so easy to induce rabbit starvation, right?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 16, 2013
at 12:53 PM

Logging my food takes maybe 1-2 minutes per day - don't understand how 1-2 minutes requires so much effort.

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on January 16, 2013
at 03:03 AM

I dunno, I was about ready to run out and buy a pitchfork just to join you, Roth!

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on January 16, 2013
at 02:12 AM

Part of it is simple vegan logic. Gluten good. Protein bad. The rest of the list screams "Buy my book and it will all be explained to you!". From reviews I've read he wants to cram mass quantities of raw veggies down the pie hole.

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

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on January 16, 2013
at 01:57 AM

Anondson - I agree with you.

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

(1047)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:56 AM

Roth - +1 for the pitchfork comment :)

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

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on January 16, 2013
at 01:55 AM

Don't worry, I don't watch his show. A FB friend posted the video, and I decided to watch it just to see what the guy said.

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

(1047)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:54 AM

haha... calm down... I didn't actually watch the show. A Facebook friend posted the video. I watched the video just to see what he said. I don't watch the show!!!

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on January 16, 2013
at 01:33 AM

dr. oz = snake oil salesman. da debil I say!

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on January 16, 2013
at 01:10 AM

I agree with your logic.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

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on January 16, 2013
at 01:05 AM

This made me seriously LOL. Well done!

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on January 16, 2013
at 12:32 AM

Turn it off and then throw it away!!

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on January 16, 2013
at 12:31 AM

*lowers pitchfork* :(

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 16, 2013
at 12:13 AM

Why are you watching such crap?

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(10611)

on January 16, 2013
at 12:04 AM

Nah. Just don't buy his books. Tell a friend not to buy his books.

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on January 15, 2013
at 11:51 PM

Unforgivable! I say we burn him at the stake along with Ingrid Newkirk and whoever runs Monsanto nowadays.

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(10611)

on January 15, 2013
at 11:35 PM

I see that #1 is Diets in General. That category covers Dr. Fuhrman's book Eat to Live, and all the other diet books he has peddled over the years.

What a huckster.

He also pimps veganism. http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/vegan_athlete.pdf

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on January 15, 2013
at 11:51 PM

Unforgivable! I say we burn him at the stake along with Ingrid Newkirk and whoever runs Monsanto nowadays.

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

(1047)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:56 AM

Roth - +1 for the pitchfork comment :)

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on January 16, 2013
at 03:03 AM

I dunno, I was about ready to run out and buy a pitchfork just to join you, Roth!

Medium avatar

(10611)

on January 16, 2013
at 12:04 AM

Nah. Just don't buy his books. Tell a friend not to buy his books.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on January 16, 2013
at 12:31 AM

*lowers pitchfork* :(

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1b247b3ca673cb9a5c547c69d490de8f

on January 16, 2013
at 12:25 AM

I wouldn't trust Oz as far as u could chuck him or tire flip him

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

(1047)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:55 AM

Don't worry, I don't watch his show. A FB friend posted the video, and I decided to watch it just to see what the guy said.

74786bbe8254844304a33943290c4d6d

(1663)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:05 AM

This made me seriously LOL. Well done!

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D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

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on January 16, 2013
at 01:05 AM

Well, there is some wisdom I can get behind in that list. If a diet isn't a lifestyle change, it will fail because the person will go back to their prior eating habits. Gluten Free leaves lots of room open for abuse that allows horrible foods (yay gluten-free jelly beans!). High Protein can be over done to a level that nears toxicity, and high protein might still work with highly processed meats, quality protein underneath toxicity levels would be the target. Fat Free diets taste like cardboard, so inevitably they are high in sugar. Calorie counting just simply cannot be done by most people as it takes far too much effort, besides, a calorie isn't a calorie. Smaller meals many times a day is just an opportunity to accidentally eat too much many times a day.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:10 AM

I agree with your logic.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 16, 2013
at 12:53 PM

Logging my food takes maybe 1-2 minutes per day - don't understand how 1-2 minutes requires so much effort.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on January 16, 2013
at 02:12 AM

Part of it is simple vegan logic. Gluten good. Protein bad. The rest of the list screams "Buy my book and it will all be explained to you!". From reviews I've read he wants to cram mass quantities of raw veggies down the pie hole.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 16, 2013
at 12:56 PM

Also, I'd love to see a case study on a patient who induced protein toxicity by a "high protein diet". Surely there's quite a few out there, as its so easy to induce rabbit starvation, right?

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on January 16, 2013
at 08:45 PM

What bothers me when people use the phrase "high protein diets" is that what they *mean* is high *fat* diets, only most people don't think of low-carb as necessarily higher fat, but higher protein. It's people's way of bashing low-carb without having to *say* "low-carb."

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

(1047)

on January 16, 2013
at 01:57 AM

Anondson - I agree with you.

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D0d9cc4b813cd0d85ce3d7f5022fb81b

on July 28, 2013
at 07:21 PM

Hi- I just wanted to clarify that Dr. Fuhrman is definitely not pro-gluten. The "vegan pro-gluten" comment is off base because Fuhrman is not into grains, as they are often not nutrient-dense in comparison with vegetables. He rails against white rice in his book, and even brown rice he thinks is much less nutritious than broccoli.

Furhman's diet is primarily vegetables, fruits, a limited amount of legumes (about a cup), small amounts of nuts and seeds, and the occasional fish. The main place where he differs with Paleo is that he gets you to drop calories by not eating animal fats. So it's a little more miserable than Paleo if you are trying to really lose weight, but it does get results. He allows for some animal/fish proteins, and the quantity is really dependent on how much weight you need to lose and/or how much heart trouble you have. I think on his ANDI scale, quality proteins would be far far higher than the processed grains. But, his whole theory is simply that if you are not getting all the nutrients you need from vegetables, especially dark leafy greens, you are going to be hungry and over-eating, and if you eat a lot of fat, you might get too many calories to lose weight. If you are not in a big weight loss phase, you can cheat minimally on animal fats and proteins. In my opinion, his approach is also a good supplement to a Paleo diet if you find yourself hungry on it and need to know why it's important to really add the green leafy vegetables in, sometimes in higher quantity than you'd think. His plan is also consistent with a Paleo diet if you are more active and need more fats or animal products.

The marketing and diet-competition that Fuhrman sometimes indulges in is certainly bullshitty, but from the perspective of someone who benefitted a great deal from Dr. Fuhrman's approach (ie- eat lots of green vegetables and understand why), I'd simply say don't knock it till you've read the book and/or tried it.

And thus, my two cents!

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(10611)

on July 28, 2013
at 09:50 PM

Warped diet. Where's the meat? I still say he's a huckster diet book pimp.

D396b126240f584bc358e6e4fd84e9e3

(455)

on July 28, 2013
at 11:20 PM

Well there's why it works (in the short term at least). You're basically starving yourself but not feeling the effects of hunger due to the sheer mass of fiber you consume in the form of vegetables. You can't survive on 1000 calories a day forever and the weight will come right back once you add back calorically dense food.

D33a8d5f095a8532ddf7a0d6c27bfe63

(578)

on July 29, 2013
at 05:04 AM

He's not obsessed with fiber. He actually wants people to consume healthy fats. He's not low-fat: he wants poeple to eat nuts and avocadoes. He wants people to eat wild caught fish, eggs and grassfed beef too, but limit animal calorie sources to less than 20% of total diet. He's also anti-GMO so no gluten. He actually qualifies as somewhat Paleo. He's into legumes but then so are lots of so called Paleos.

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on January 16, 2013
at 02:52 AM

if you want the truth look at scientific papers; if you are an 'average' person eating SAD and trying to feel better about yourself then watch dr. oz

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