Not only do they not get a lot of omega 6, they also have a great omega 3/6 balance.
so, do raw fruit 80/10/10 dieters not get diabetes because of the low fat (specifically omega 6)?
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on January 07, 2013
at 06:59 PM
How do you know that people on a raw fruit diet do not get diabetes?
on January 07, 2013
at 08:10 PM
All of your body's cells are made up of cell membranes that need fat in order to prevent water from coming inside. An extremely low fat diet, like this one, is highly dangerous for your body's cells and for hormonal regulation.
on February 21, 2013
at 07:44 PM
Let me chime in and point out the unlikely presumption here- that they don't get diabetes. There isn't any evidence that they don't and their diet is newer than any other diet. You've got to have global production in order to be able to eat fruit 24/7/365, so they are eating a modern diet even though they are avoiding processed food harm.
In terms of the effects of their diet, they have even less evidence than we do. Now, we have sensible theory, which can serve us well, but sometimes our ideas about the past turn out to be wrong. Case in point- salt recommendations by the mainline paleo researchers are still pretty low, while personal experience for a lot of folks (including me) has us upping our salt intake. They have neither a sensible theory nor evidence, and they may end up with exactly the same rates of diabetes as the SAD people. They could even end up with worse, though I doubt it because I think stuff like wheat is more dangerous than fruit sugars. Still, they are eating a whole lot of fruit sugar, and they aren't getting enough micronutrients elsewhere, so even if they don't get diabetes they'll end up with some b12 deficiency related issue.
on February 21, 2013
at 07:30 PM
I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but, well, here goes:
1) Yes, he does look skinny. Honestly, that's kind of relative. "Fat" to one person could be "average" to another. If you look at pictures of people from the '50s, they didn't look that much skinnier than him. Also, he it's possible he could be supplementing w/ zinc, (I know I probably would on such a diet... you're bound to be low on it when you cut out basically every source of it) and, long-term, zinc supplementation can lead to anemia, esp if you aren't getting enough extra copper to compensate. Also, supposedley he's intending to be skinny, so he can run faster.
Maybe you all would like to post (current) pictures of yourselves to compare? (since you brought it up)
BTW, I do tend to agree with you guys that low-fat is a little extreme, and does lead to hormonal imbalance. What really killed it for me was that hair-loss and extreme loss of libido are considered "normal effects" on this diet. (Libido loss, at least) Ironic, given that upped libido is often given as reason to go on raw diet. (dont know about 811 tho)
2) And how do I know you paleo folks dont all end up obese, get cancer, and heart-attacks?
It's just a good assumption, given that of all the bad things reported by former 811s, diabetes never comes up. Even if it did, it's still possible that they weren't actually doing the diet right. (eg too much fat)
Fructose itself is not evil, it's fat. Think about it. Fruit makes up a significant % of chimps and bonobos diet, we're, what, 90% similar to them, and related too? Ergo, why don't we see a lot more diabetic chimps and bonobos?
BTW: Yes, yes, yes, I am aware that some chimps do eat meat, but it's only like 1-2% of their diet, and even then, is really only given as a "gift" in mating. And I am also aware that they eat insects. Honestly, if u wanna eat insects, go for it. Whatever floats your boat. Maybe that's where chimps get their b12, or something.
But even if granted that they eat meat, it is at best less than %10 of their diet. My guess would be, that's a lot less than the % of meat you paleo folks eat. So, maybe bad example to point to, if you want to advocate lots of meat-eating.