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Can someone please explain this diet to me?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 09, 2013 at 8:48 PM

So I am pretty skinny but because of genetics, I do get belly fat that is really hard for me to get rid of. In 2 months, i am going to hawaii with my family and I would like to have a 6-pack when I go as well as get more muscular. I started on this diet today assuming that I have to eat like a caveman (only eating meat, nuts, fruits and vegetables) but after looking at this website I started to get a little confused. I saw people writing about how heavy cream is a good substitute for milk and some others eat salads with a tiny bit of cheese or drinking wine or hard alcohols moderately. If someone could explain how I am supposed to eat, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

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on May 10, 2013
at 07:20 PM

Not to sound like I'm condoning soy. I'm definitely avidly anti-soy as any of my friends or family would definitely attest to.

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on May 10, 2013
at 07:18 PM

For example I've seen Travis say he eats good amounts of peas which are beans/ legumes and I've seen Matt recommend mexi-paleo. I'm also pretty sure if I was in the wild and found beans I'd definitely eat them before I'd eat grains or something. I'm even starting to prefer them over tubers. They're nutritionally dense and full of soluble fiber ftw. But you're right in that for some people those food groups would definitely fall into different categories.

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Yea, there is of course going to be some personal preference there. For example, nuts and grains don't do well in my body but for me personally, beans would probably be a eat in abundance, along with dairy while grains and seeds would be in a straight avoid for me personally. What I put is more of a compilation of what I find most PHers would agree with based on my activity here and is by no means set in stone or necessarily definitive.

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on May 10, 2013
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I'd move grains and beans to the avoid section. Beans are not paleo - soy is a bean and it's very harmful.

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on May 10, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Don't forget the industrial seed oils (corn, soy, "vegetable oil", canola, etc.) Stick to animal fats (butter, ghee), avocado, olive oil, etc.

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on May 10, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Problem #1. This isn't a weight loss diet per se. Some people are here trying to loose weight, some are not. You need to be careful which advice you listen to. Problem #2. You don't have a goal. Are you trying to loose weight or get abs? Abs require more than low body fat -- you also need to build your abdominal muscles. Problem #3. Your genetics suck. Not a big deal, mine do too. I got down below 9% body fat and I only had two abs (the top two). Flat stomach, veins in my arms, no abs.

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"You just have to promise to upgrade when you are rich." - Lol, that's exactly what I always tell myself.

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Heavy cream can be a good substitute for milk if you're having trouble meeting your calorie needs, especially on a bulk. Cheese is fine on a salad, either that or olive oil. Fat helps you absorb more Vitamin K, by a factor of 3-7 fold. Wine is fermented fruit and likely completely fine in moderation.

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on May 09, 2013
at 09:01 PM

No grains, no legumes, no dairy except for dairy fat, which is generally considered awesome because it is animal fat and we've been eating animal fat all through the paleolithic.

Now, in your first thirty days, a pretty strict interpretation of this ought to be observed, but when you've been doing things a while people vary the diet to suit them. There are decent arguments for the inclusion of raw, grass-fed dairy in the diet, and many of us are too attached to alcohol to entirely give it up, so we try to figure out what's the safest way to get a buzz without destroying all our hard earned work. Some of us even end up eating rice.

Oh, and by the way, you aren't necessarily going to get a 6-pack. 6-packs do not correlate to health and it seems like you have go somewhat hungry for a while to get them. A 6 pack is indicative of a bodyfat level that the body actually does not like to be at.

The other big deal is food quality. We want to be able to spend the big money on the grass-fed, the virgin, the free range, the organic and beyond. Luckily this isn't a deal killer; you can do pretty well with 'grocery store' paleo. You just have to promise to upgrade when you are rich.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on May 10, 2013
at 02:16 PM

"You just have to promise to upgrade when you are rich." - Lol, that's exactly what I always tell myself.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on May 10, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Don't forget the industrial seed oils (corn, soy, "vegetable oil", canola, etc.) Stick to animal fats (butter, ghee), avocado, olive oil, etc.

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on May 10, 2013
at 02:12 PM

Eat in Abundance:

  • Fish
  • Shellfish
  • Game meat
  • Vegetables
  • Roots
  • Tubers
  • Whole Fruits
  • Leafy Vegetables

Eat in Moderation:

  • Nuts
  • Beans
  • Dairy

Eat Sparingly:

  • Grains
  • Seed Oils

Straight Avoid Always:

  • Refined white flour
  • High Fructose Corn Syrup
  • Hydrogenated Oils

There is nothing inherently special about the paleo diet for getting 6 pack abs. If you want to get 6 pack abs I'd suggest you check out Mike Chang's 6 Pack Shortcuts Program, it is actually pretty legit. Even his meal plan is pretty much paleo (not low carb).

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on May 10, 2013
at 07:18 PM

For example I've seen Travis say he eats good amounts of peas which are beans/ legumes and I've seen Matt recommend mexi-paleo. I'm also pretty sure if I was in the wild and found beans I'd definitely eat them before I'd eat grains or something. I'm even starting to prefer them over tubers. They're nutritionally dense and full of soluble fiber ftw. But you're right in that for some people those food groups would definitely fall into different categories.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on May 10, 2013
at 07:14 PM

Yea, there is of course going to be some personal preference there. For example, nuts and grains don't do well in my body but for me personally, beans would probably be a eat in abundance, along with dairy while grains and seeds would be in a straight avoid for me personally. What I put is more of a compilation of what I find most PHers would agree with based on my activity here and is by no means set in stone or necessarily definitive.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on May 10, 2013
at 07:20 PM

Not to sound like I'm condoning soy. I'm definitely avidly anti-soy as any of my friends or family would definitely attest to.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on May 10, 2013
at 04:30 PM

I'd move grains and beans to the avoid section. Beans are not paleo - soy is a bean and it's very harmful.

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on May 09, 2013
at 10:28 PM

Neither dairy or alcohol is "paleo" but a lot of us consume them

If you're doing dairy, ideally go for high fat, grass-fed, fermented and unpasteurised. I only eat goat and camel dairy because cow dairy is very high in estrogens (hello, weight gain)

For alcohol, people have wine and hard liquors because they're they closest to paleo, one being from a fruit and the other being low in sugars and additives. However, alcohol is a bit like sugar in a way - if you eat it, your body will burn it before burning anything else

EAT meat, fish, vegetables, eggs, fruits (ideally berries and stone fruits), roots, mushrooms, a few nuts, coconut oil, olive and macadamia oil if raw

DON"T EAT anything processed, vegetable oils, grains, tubers*, legumes, dairy*, alcohol*

*see previous comments

The easiest way is just to only buy things that don't come in any kind of packaging :D

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on May 09, 2013
at 09:17 PM

I agree with August, cutting out all grains and beans from your diet for 2 mons while working out will do your body wonders, ESP if you are young, slim, and healthy. After the two months, you can evaluate what works and doesn't work and customize the diet to your body. Your mileage may vary, as they say.

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