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Bee's Candida Diet?

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Created August 14, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Almost 2 months ago I decided to go on Bee's Candida Diet. I don't get acne anymore, feel generally better, but I'm concerned about one thing : Bee recommends taking 20-30k of Vitamin A daily. I was vitamin D deficient and read that Vitamin A is toxic quickly.

What are your thoughts about Bee's Candida Diet?

These are the allowed foods : http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foodslist.php

These are the recommended supplements : http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp7.php

Thanks!

A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

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on December 17, 2012
at 03:17 AM

I have read it and while it does go along with some paleo things, she has an article about how the Antibody theory is false. This is about the most ignorant theory I've heard. She must not even have a basic understanding of how the immune system works. If she was right doctors wouldn't be able to run a test for TPO antibodies to determine if you have Hashimotos. Immunogolist wouldn't be able to see if you have an IgE allergic reaction when skin pricking your skin.

A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

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on December 17, 2012
at 03:15 AM

Actually she does not say every symptom is a "die off"; she actually has a whole article on why the "die-off" theory is not true. "Die-Off Symptoms & Herxheimer Reactions Are Fabricated Terms" http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php Down-vote for me P.S. I still do have criticisms (see my above comment)

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on June 11, 2012
at 11:10 AM

I didn't get a lot of acne back then indeed, but I was working all day long on food. Had no social life whatsoever. And while my skin was better I didn't feel very energetic.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 15, 2011
at 06:45 AM

Good points, but calling her a nutcase is maybe a tad harsh. A lot had success with her diet (me, for example, I don't even have to use probiotics anymore). What exactly is wrong with her diet? I'm not interested in her theories, I just eat vlc paleo with her supplements. Is there anything wrong with her supplement list?

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on August 14, 2011
at 09:32 PM

Nutrition data will tell you the exact composition but i can imagine people avoiding onions due to its inulin content which might not be favorable with conditions like candida.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 07:59 PM

That's weird : I had no symptoms whatsoever, my allergies are disappearing, I didn't get acne for a long while, ... She seemed so harmless to me...

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on August 14, 2011
at 07:05 PM

You could use that and supplement with additional vitamin D. Being heavy on the vitamin D side of the ratio isn't bad. A lot of people say the ratio should be more along the lines of 1 to 5. I don't prefer that nature's life uses soy oil as it's delivery oil.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 07:02 PM

Alright, thanks! The bad news is that Bee also recommends http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Life-A-D-10-000-IU-400-IU-100-Softgels/24003?at=0. Do you think I should remove that supplement and replace it with vitamin D?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 06:59 PM

I don't know what part I am from :D. I live just above Brussels (horrible for a paleo person, very close to the highway, glad we got a beach house and I'm going to the university now) but speak both Dutch and French ^^.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on August 14, 2011
at 05:00 PM

That's retinol and it comes in the proper A to D ratio.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 04:32 PM

I take http://www.iherb.com/Garden-of-Life-Olde-World-Icelandic-Cod-Liver-Oil-Lemon-Mint-Flavor-8-fl-oz-236-ml/3154?at=0 which has 4500IU of vitamin A for every tsp, I take 2 tsp. I don't know if that's Beta Carotene or retinol though, guess it's retinol?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 01:16 PM

Hm, cholesterol might be an annoying thing to deal with. I'm surprised you gained weight too, I'd be happy to get a bit fatter, but I just don't know about how healthy the diet is. I'm gonna continue this diet until my skin is completely clear (I don't have acne anymore but still want to see my skin improve a bit to be sure), as it did help me a lot, but after that I'm probably gonna start eating sweet potatoes once in a while, and some fruit/nuts too.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 11:33 AM

I don't know about candida, I have a mold allergy, used to have sugar problems (disappeared quite some time ago) and had a bit of acne (most of my skin problems were due to allergies though).

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Ef4c5b09fdccf73be575d3a0c267fdd9

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on August 14, 2011
at 09:03 PM

Bee is a nutcase. Just one read through of her reasoning should send you running. First off... it takes glucose to fight fungal infections. Paul Jaminent has stated this several times and I have noticed anecdotally a few VLCer's and ZCer's developing fungal infections while on the diet. Thats not to say that everyone will get one when going VLC or ZC, as many don't, but the science is in the favor of having some glucose to fight the fungus.

She also claims the body can make it's own probiotics... which is hilarious considering anyone who takes anti-biotics and ruins their gut flora will tell you.. that stuff just doesn;t come back when the body is ready. She also thinks candida is literally the root of ever disease... as if we wouldn't die or get sick if it weren't for candida!

If your doing great on VLC, the great! But please please don't believe a word that woman says.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 15, 2011
at 06:45 AM

Good points, but calling her a nutcase is maybe a tad harsh. A lot had success with her diet (me, for example, I don't even have to use probiotics anymore). What exactly is wrong with her diet? I'm not interested in her theories, I just eat vlc paleo with her supplements. Is there anything wrong with her supplement list?

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742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

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on August 14, 2011
at 07:50 PM

I tried the diet, and it made me feel extremely sick. She makes you take way too much supplements without taking into consideration individual needs. She also gives potentially dangerous advice by telling people to ignore any potentially life threatening symptoms, such as palpitations. She makes you believe every symptom you have while on the diet is "die off." I would personally steer clear if I were you.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 07:59 PM

That's weird : I had no symptoms whatsoever, my allergies are disappearing, I didn't get acne for a long while, ... She seemed so harmless to me...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on June 11, 2012
at 11:10 AM

I didn't get a lot of acne back then indeed, but I was working all day long on food. Had no social life whatsoever. And while my skin was better I didn't feel very energetic.

A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

(687)

on December 17, 2012
at 03:15 AM

Actually she does not say every symptom is a "die off"; she actually has a whole article on why the "die-off" theory is not true. "Die-Off Symptoms & Herxheimer Reactions Are Fabricated Terms" http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php Down-vote for me P.S. I still do have criticisms (see my above comment)

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on August 14, 2011
at 03:20 PM

The diet looks uncontroversial. One thing that gives me pause is that fluoride is referred to as a heavy metal. Someone get this person a periodic table.

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on August 14, 2011
at 09:11 PM

I also don't understand why she says onions & garlic are high in carbs ans should be moderated,while tomatoes,peppers etc. are ok. I thought onions weren't higher in carbs than tomatoes&peppers?

2bdc990a200584a385650cf68475f095

on August 14, 2011
at 09:32 PM

Nutrition data will tell you the exact composition but i can imagine people avoiding onions due to its inulin content which might not be favorable with conditions like candida.

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Da7dc02f6150d09197a768aff40a11f1

on August 14, 2011
at 01:02 PM

I did Bee's diet for almost a year. When I finally reached the recommended amount of coconut oil each day, I was feeling better. However, I did gain weight. Also, my cholesterol was extremely high. I even went off of the diet and added grains, fruits, beans and chocolate back. (EEK!) Needless to say, I felt much worse. My husband who always said my diet was not connected to my health, told me to go back on my diet immediately! Now I'm just following a paleo low carb diet and including coconut oil (usually about 1 tbsp with each meal.)

I'm not 100% positive if I have candida. I've been sick with chronic fatigue syndrome- fatigue, headaches, body aches, joint pain,sore throat for 4 years. There were a few concerns I had about her protocol. Like you, I was concerned about the high amount of vitamin A. Also, I didn't quite understand her one month of healing for each year you've been sick. Most of the time she states you were probably sick from birth.

Not sure if this was helpful for you or not. I was just interested to hear another person is following her protocol.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 01:16 PM

Hm, cholesterol might be an annoying thing to deal with. I'm surprised you gained weight too, I'd be happy to get a bit fatter, but I just don't know about how healthy the diet is. I'm gonna continue this diet until my skin is completely clear (I don't have acne anymore but still want to see my skin improve a bit to be sure), as it did help me a lot, but after that I'm probably gonna start eating sweet potatoes once in a while, and some fruit/nuts too.

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on June 11, 2012
at 11:07 AM

Just answering my own question : it worked until winter came, then I got sick and it got worse and worse and Bee didn't have any answers for any of my questions. While I tried to give her a chance, she obviously is the type of person that believes crazy stuff as long as it works for her. The simple fact that she tells everyone to take exactly the supplements she takes is already confusing.

The reason why her diet probably works for some is :

  • no grains, nuts, seeds
  • high nutrient-density
  • salt is a supplement on her list
  • high in gelatin if you make bone broth

Apart from this it's just another person generalizing her anecdotes.

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669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

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on August 14, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Stumbled upon Bee's site recently too.Lots of good info,though I'm quite skeptic about sone stuff.

Korion,I saw you're from Belgium....which part?I'm Dutch but live close to the Belgian border.Studied a while in Genk.:)

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 06:59 PM

I don't know what part I am from :D. I live just above Brussels (horrible for a paleo person, very close to the highway, glad we got a beach house and I'm going to the university now) but speak both Dutch and French ^^.

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D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on August 14, 2011
at 03:50 PM

If you take Vit A in the for of Beta Carotene you don't have to worry about. Beta-carotene needs to be converted to retinol in order to active. It's considered a precursor. Some people do have trouble converting it. If you take retinol, there is a greater chance for toxicity but you can also dose D in compensation. Or just eat liver twice a week. The ideal A to D ratio is said to be 10:1.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on August 14, 2011
at 05:00 PM

That's retinol and it comes in the proper A to D ratio.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 04:32 PM

I take http://www.iherb.com/Garden-of-Life-Olde-World-Icelandic-Cod-Liver-Oil-Lemon-Mint-Flavor-8-fl-oz-236-ml/3154?at=0 which has 4500IU of vitamin A for every tsp, I take 2 tsp. I don't know if that's Beta Carotene or retinol though, guess it's retinol?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on August 14, 2011
at 07:02 PM

Alright, thanks! The bad news is that Bee also recommends http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Life-A-D-10-000-IU-400-IU-100-Softgels/24003?at=0. Do you think I should remove that supplement and replace it with vitamin D?

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on August 14, 2011
at 07:05 PM

You could use that and supplement with additional vitamin D. Being heavy on the vitamin D side of the ratio isn't bad. A lot of people say the ratio should be more along the lines of 1 to 5. I don't prefer that nature's life uses soy oil as it's delivery oil.

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on August 14, 2011
at 11:12 AM

As long as you aren't pregnant and get enough vit D&K that amount of vitamin A is fine for most part.

The diet looks like a pretty standard VLC diet, I would personally use fitday.com to make sure your hitting nutritional DVs.

Do you have candida?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 14, 2011
at 11:33 AM

I don't know about candida, I have a mold allergy, used to have sugar problems (disappeared quite some time ago) and had a bit of acne (most of my skin problems were due to allergies though).

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on December 17, 2012
at 01:26 AM

i'm all for a low carb, grain free and sugar free diet & i stuck with it for about a month.... theyre like some weird cult where they all worship bee, so i took it all with a pinch of salt (celtic, of course! :P). then i got a really bad bout of tonsilitis and i posted on the support group asking for help, advice suggestions and got no reply, in fact my message just vanished ... i was like umm, wtf? thanks bee so i decided just to stick to my own low carb rules and take smaller doses of the recommended supplements, i definitely think a lot of her views are a bit bonkers and its all a bit extreme.

sure theres been lots of success stories, but of course there is - considering that most of those people have just come off a typical western diet which is loaded with carbs, sugar and 'low fat' processed foods... anyone who has any common sense can follow a low carb low sugar diet and feel 60% better within the space of a few weeks. but in the long run, who can realistically commit to a life of never being able to eat out at a restaurant or enjoy a square iof chocolate or a glass or wine, and basically carting an array of pills and coconut oil around with you every where you go... it's fairly ridiculous.

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