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Alcohol - why is it affecting me more??!!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM

OK - so I am cheap to take out now! I used to be able to drink a fair amount (in fact - stay reasonably sober as everyone else got smashed!) But now - two glasses of wine - and I want to go to bed. Alone.

At a wedding last weekend, where there was loads of champagne before we sat down to eat, I felt like leaving before the meal (I stayed until 10.00 pm - the party went on until 4.00 am the next day)

Tonight I have been out for drinks with friends - three glasses of wine, and I feel like I've had three bottles!!!!

Does this low carb, high fat, high veg and protein diet make me vulnerable to booze??!!

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on May 10, 2013
at 12:32 PM

How drunk were you when you wrote this...? Wait, let me translate that: *i don't drank like it has, but it do*.

D6304567ada7ac5e8c6f4e5902270831

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on February 23, 2012
at 03:36 AM

I definitely can't handle alcohol very well anymore (From just 1 glass of wine I get either or both of an irritated stomach and a really nasty mood [surprise! depression from a depressant!]). This has been since becoming keto-adapted and reaching my ideal weight. In my case, though, I did have lots of stomach irritability and lots of depression very commonly before changing my diet. So ... a newly acquired intolerance or rather just the recurrence of the same old irritability that I had had before but had become desensitized to? I don't know!

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

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on June 30, 2011
at 03:52 PM

I like it, too.

3f8d3260cfa33caf9c2b5d12b99864ef

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on June 30, 2011
at 12:34 PM

haha, well, this was a sudden shift... I went from drinking up to 10 or so Guinesses on a Friday night to barely being able to down 3 or 4...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 11:43 PM

Well jeez, none of us can drink like we used to!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 11:42 PM

Oh Q, I'd be happy to help you weed out that cellar ;) It is a shame as my favorite is almost any Napa Cab (bold, peppery). I never thought I would forsake my beloved. However, there are those times I throw caution to the wind and accept a long and painful hangover. Sigh.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on June 29, 2011
at 09:58 PM

i dont drink any liquor either......but I am a huge wine guy and have a nice cellar. That cellar has been untouched for a long time. And to make matters worse my favorite wine I can no longer drink. D'Yquem. The residual sugar would kill a pancreas.

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Good question. I've been experiencing the same thing.

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:48 PM

http://lowcarb4u.blogspot.com/2008/11/alcohol-and-low-carb-lifestyle.html

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I know that feeling of drinking on an empty stomach, and that isn't this feeling

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I having the same problem. Except this happened to me before paleo while I was on SAD.

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on June 29, 2011
at 07:48 PM

although I've always been a lightweight, I have noticed that it doesnt hit me as hard after 2 drinks. I still will have UP TO 2 glasses of wine but thats it. For some reason I always feel like I've been run over by a truck with a drop more. I think it has to do with your changing metabolism, best I can figure....

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on June 29, 2011
at 07:32 PM

I'm experiencing the exact same thing as you. I used to drink a bottle of wine (or two) and not feel drunk. Now, two glasses and I'm cozy tipsy and at my limit. It's kind of amazing.

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:08 PM

My theory is that when you are low carb your liver is doing double duty to make glucose via gluconeogenesis. The alcohol hits your liver when it is already tired and can't detox the ethanol as efficiently. Again, this is my theory.

If you are up for a little n=1, eat some carbs, don't binge or anything, and try getting your drink on then. Report back if you do this. I am interested.

EDIT

Also, I was just thinking that if you are low carb and you are getting your brain's glucose needs met through gluconeogensis, then you may be crashing your blood sugar. Alcohol stops other other metabolic processes in your liver as it is a toxin -this would I imagine include the work it is doing to meet your blood sugar needs. So, slow detox, low starting blood sugar, inability to maintain blood sugar while drinking = drunk faster.

Or I could be completely wrong... This is my theory, but I like it.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:48 PM

http://lowcarb4u.blogspot.com/2008/11/alcohol-and-low-carb-lifestyle.html

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

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on June 30, 2011
at 03:52 PM

I like it, too.

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Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:54 PM

Perhaps it's simply that your body mass has decreased, whilst at the same time you rarely drink anymore - both of which would lower your tolerance for alcohol independent of any metabolic changes related specifically to low carb.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on June 29, 2011
at 07:55 PM

This was the biggest effect I noticed year one of paleo myself. Two glasses of wine and I am done. The reason I believe is tied to your liver sensitivity for detox is a bit overwhelmed by the the detox from the excess fat is slowly being cleared away and the EtOH is additive to it. Overtime it goes away as you get more fit but it is dependent upon how many toxins you have stored in your adipose tissue to begin with. The more fat the more concentrated the toxin are when you get to your last 25 lbs as well. I believe this because of discussions I have had with toxicologist and forensic pathologists.....no idea if it is true but it is plausible.

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on June 29, 2011
at 07:24 PM

Probably the reduction of starch and other carbs that can absorb the Alcohol in the stomach thus slowing the release into your body and blood stream. It's a lot like drinking on an empty stomach. Also the Alcohol has carbs in it, depending on what you are drinking and we know that carbs getting broken down much faster than protein.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I know that feeling of drinking on an empty stomach, and that isn't this feeling

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C5d5cfab77a26fa17a56f2c62b99b879

on May 10, 2013
at 01:49 AM

Yeah, eating clean leads to overall efficiency in all the systems affected by alcohol so you get buzzed in a minute. Take it as a blessing.

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on May 09, 2013
at 08:41 PM

exeactlly i am not a dranker but it

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on May 10, 2013
at 12:32 PM

How drunk were you when you wrote this...? Wait, let me translate that: *i don't drank like it has, but it do*.

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on June 30, 2011
at 01:01 AM

I have noticed also after having a glass of red or a beer my tolerance is lower than before going paleo. My face heats up as well like I've drunk a whole bottle etc. If I have a Volka and soda I don't react as quick but still will feel like I can't drink as much as before, I was thinking it was my age as I just turned 40 but maybe it is to do wirh the liver detoxifying??? Who knows?? Thanks for the post as this has been on my mind as well.

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on June 30, 2011
at 12:16 AM

Yep, it's eating VLC. I had the same issue, but now that I eat some starch every day, I'm back to my old sky-high tolerance. It was novel being a one-drink girl for a couple months there.

I've been underweight all my life but I inherited this 'skill' from my dad. It's the main reason I don't really drink, since it can't be healthy to have 5+ drinks within an hour, but that's what I need to get a buzz. I'm not going to put my body through all that just to feel a bit tipsy.

At around 100 lbs, I am somewhat sensitive to all other drugs. Just not alcohol.

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on June 30, 2011
at 12:09 AM

It doesn't seem to end with alcohol with me. If I actually have to take a drug (otc or prescribed) the dosages have to be lower or I get the negative symptoms considerably more. Back in my strongman days I'd eat ibuprofen like m&m's - now I can't tolerate 1 200mg tablet due to to the stomach irritation and "haziness" I feel.

But yeah, the other night I broke rank for three hard ciders (and a whiskey back). It was like I got hit by a truck. Funny that I think that's excessive now, I used to drink that before going out to "warm-up".

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3f8d3260cfa33caf9c2b5d12b99864ef

on June 29, 2011
at 11:12 PM

I noticed the same thing when I started low carbing 9 years ago. And the effect didn't go away when I went on cheating benders (eating full carb crap for a few days). It has gradually gone away over the years, but I still can't quite drink as much as I used to. Which is probably a good thing. Definitely a good thing.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 11:43 PM

Well jeez, none of us can drink like we used to!

3f8d3260cfa33caf9c2b5d12b99864ef

(88)

on June 30, 2011
at 12:34 PM

haha, well, this was a sudden shift... I went from drinking up to 10 or so Guinesses on a Friday night to barely being able to down 3 or 4...

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 09:39 PM

Same thing happens to me and I did some old fashioned n1. I am fine that night and minimal hangover if I eat a Carb like a sweet potato and a large portion of protein. I am fine if I eat just protein but the wine has to be a French pinot. I tried several appellations and different varietals for this. I am just ok if Im only eating protein, any kind of wine but I have to have 4 oz of water for every glass.

I don't do liquor so I can't speak to that. And beer is not my favorite So I never go past 2 bottles of that.

I suspect the tanins in wine may be a culprit but I don't have the chemistry background to prove it. I'd love for anyone to explain that.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 11:42 PM

Oh Q, I'd be happy to help you weed out that cellar ;) It is a shame as my favorite is almost any Napa Cab (bold, peppery). I never thought I would forsake my beloved. However, there are those times I throw caution to the wind and accept a long and painful hangover. Sigh.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on June 29, 2011
at 09:58 PM

i dont drink any liquor either......but I am a huge wine guy and have a nice cellar. That cellar has been untouched for a long time. And to make matters worse my favorite wine I can no longer drink. D'Yquem. The residual sugar would kill a pancreas.

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68845b3181c9537bea5c038e69d8664e

on June 29, 2011
at 08:31 PM

No question about it. the "drinks" hit you harder.

I've tried the experiment with rice and potatoes, and it's a clear difference.

One thing i noticed is that when you have drinks after work, a lot of us have either fasted all day, or had a small protein based meal for lunch...so in essence pretty much an empty stomach when drinking time coems around.

Marc

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