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BUttermilk, Butter etc.- These are Paleo? Since when?

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Created October 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM

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Why are cheese, cream, and butter paleo?

Every old school style book I read states these are not paleo.No diary means no diary.

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on October 11, 2012
at 09:21 PM

Tell that to the Masai

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on October 11, 2012
at 07:08 PM

Isn't that what cave paintings are, a diary of the hunt?

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on October 11, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Yeh, Grok didn't have a diary!

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on October 11, 2012
at 06:18 PM

It would be interesting to know how many people here eat a strict, old-school paleo diet. I suspect that many people, like me, eat their own sort of Paleo 2.0 version, and continue to post and read here because this site is very helpful and they find the overall paleo philosophy congenial to their own.

So yes, I eat dairy. Mostly fermented, grass-fed dairy like yogurt & raw milk cheeses & butter, but I do put plain old milk in my tea every so often and don't worry about it. Totally agree that anybody with inflammation or digestion issues should cut out dairy for a time and make sure it's not an issue for them.

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on October 11, 2012
at 05:55 PM

I don't eat dairy often. It doesn't agree with me in general. That said a lot of people have a genetic variation which allows them to digest dairy and I don't see a problem.

If someone is sick and inflamed they need to dump it for 30+ days and reintroduce to see how it works for them but if they re-add it and it agrees wit them WHY should they stop?

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on October 11, 2012
at 06:14 PM

I use Kerry Gold Grass fed butter to make ghee. I'm consuming the only the butterfat and all its goodness; discarding the lactose and caesin. I guess one could argue there are minute traces of each...but really?

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on October 11, 2012
at 06:07 PM

"no dairy" is a worthless tenet if dairy doesn't hurt you and you don't have some moral objection to it. to me it's close enough to paleo and i don't react negatively to it at all, so there's no reason for me to avoid it.

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on October 11, 2012
at 07:57 PM

Yes, but with science we can figure out what in dairy is good, and what is bad. The milk proteins are foreign to our paleo ancestor's diet, but the dairy fat is similar to what can be found in all sorts of animals- it is animal fat. What studies there are seem to suggest casein could encourage cancer, and whey certainly does encourage growth. Meanwhile the fats do the same awesome things other animal fats do.

Ghee is the safest dairy product- at least in terms of getting most of the proteins out. Depending on how it is produced, certain butters will have more proteins than others. I have never been a fan of Kerrygold- I suspect it has more casein in it than other butters because of my reaction to it, but I don't know for sure.

There's a lot of old school stuff you tweak after doing this a while. The low salt recommendations can lead to some seriously weird problems.

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on October 11, 2012
at 06:21 PM

I found Paleo partly because my digestion sucked. Anything I incorporate is based on the same tenet. If it upsets my stomach I know it's not for me. A lot of things here blend with the same philosophies of WAPF and GAPS for example. Everybody is different but almost all the best advice is based on what our bodies can digest in my opinion.

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on October 11, 2012
at 07:54 PM

I milk small animals that I trap with a snare, take a good long time to collect a quart of milk but it is very healthy because it comes from multiple species.

Sucks when I snare male animals though, can't get any milk from them.

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