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Paleo - found a solution to diarrhea & queasy stomach - may help you

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Created June 07, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Occasionally, I would get a queasy stomach and some mild diarrhea, take some probiotics and I would be fine within an hour or two. Had a situation where both continued to get worse to the point, I started feeling weak (which happens with a weak stomach) that I feared I would need to reintroduce grains back into my diet just for colon health (very counter-intuitive, but I wasn't sure what else to do to "firm things up.") I tried three different kinds of probiotics during the week, with nothing taking hold. Even took Immodium and had a couple bananas for the BRAT diet. Just helped a little.

Finally, after a week I stepped up the probiotics and took some digestive enzymes. These issues dragged on for a week and finally the same day I took the enzymes, things started turning around. I continued the enzymes (just before a meal) and added in some vegetables (which I noticed I greatly cut back on over the previous 2-3 weeks) to my protein/fat regimine and things are starting to feel normal. It's the third day, and I'm back 95%.

I was thinking what changed to cause such a problem. I was eating a lot of freshly ground 85% lean pasture raised beef, almost every day, cooked rare in nice pasture butter topped with fresh salsa and avocado. Instead of the packages that sat in Traders Joe's, I was getting this brilliant meat and possibly it was richer with nutrients. Not sure.

I ate a burger from a friend's house, just the meat during the holiday. It may have been bad meat, but no one else in my household nor his had a problem.

One thing I did notice is that I stopped my green vegetable salads which I was having once a day at lunch on the side. I started on Primal and moved to Paleo for ease. Possibly I didn't have enough in my body to clean out something that was not quite right. Possibly the rich meat needed more digestive enzymes. Again, not sure. Am moving back to the "salad recommendations" on Primal for nutrients and roughage.

So if you're facing queasy stomach and digestive problems after switching to Paleo, then you might want to try some digestive enzymes if you have an issue. I bought mine at Whole Foods. Again, I write this to share this info in case anyone else has such an issue as I feared I would have to change this eating back to something more standard American diet because I couldn't find a solution online or in practice until recently. Would hate to change as this is working all too well to change.

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on April 03, 2012
at 08:28 PM

I tried the NOWfoods Super Enzymes and they gave me something like a nappy rash. lol. Seriously. My bum cheeks were very sore and red but the actual anus was ok. I didn't realise that it was the NOWfoods enzymes that was causing the rash until I read another member here describing the same problem and saying that it was the enzymes causing it.

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on April 11, 2011
at 05:20 AM

It is normal to experience diarrhea in the beginning, as part of the set of symptoms that people refer to as low carb flu. Diarrhea was my main symptom too. The probable cause is that your gut is unloading large amounts of bacteria. Your pre-paleo gut flora are not equipped to break down all of the fat and meat. When the situation is bad enough, your gut's strategy is to attempt a 'dump' to give the flora that thrive on meat and fat a chance to populate. It'll get better. Eat fermented foods in the meantime - yogurt, kefir, kimchee, pickles, sauerkraut, etc.

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on June 10, 2010
at 12:27 PM

I think that raw meat is ok in some circumstances, (hooray for super high quality food) but I really would not consider it as a cure for digestive ills. If the digestive tract is 'unhappy' it is time to be subtracting things from the diet, not adding what (for most modern eaters) a novel item.

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on June 08, 2010
at 10:30 PM

Same with me. My bowels had always been fine, even eating junk. Started zero-carb 9 months ago. All I was eating was meat. After a few months I began getting horrible diarrhea every few days, sometimes all liquid--as if I was prepping for a colonoscopy--and terrible gas cramping. The attack could last a couple of hours. Pepto-Bismol actually worked wonders, but I knew something wasn't right. I Just started eating cooked, non-starch veggies again--bok choi, daikon, collards, kale, or even just a pickle. Everything's back to normal.

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2864dd8ad97ea5370dd6b23d49caddcb

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on June 07, 2010
at 10:11 PM

Sounds like you were having steatorrhea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steatorrhea

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on June 09, 2010
at 11:48 PM

Ginger is my go-to herb for digesting most anything, And is a fine health booster in general!

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on June 10, 2010
at 07:01 AM

Ginger? That is interesting - I shall try it.

I noticed, using FitDay, that I was regularly low on magnesium / potassium. Yesterday I made a point of eating sweet potato, banana, jerusalem artichoke (sunchoke?) and almonds. I got both magnesium and potassium above the RDA though carbs were up to 139.5 and total calories up to 2888. However - digestion feels much much better, so I shall do the same today and see how it goes. With ginger added!

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on April 03, 2012
at 01:20 PM

I've been Paleo for 3 months and just started with a change in my b.m's 3 weeks ago. During this time had a colonoscopy and the day before is when very loose stools started.For a week and half now its been diarrhea,made mistake of having a milk shake the other night and should of worn a diaper to bed!! I do some high quality dairy,pasture butter and cream to help maintain weight.Thought about trying some oatmeal,but sounds like not the thing to do.Before Paleo,did cheese and yogurt and soy milk daily.

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on April 11, 2011
at 04:56 AM

I found for me personally that following some of the GAPS guidelines in the beginning, namely, drinking good gelatinous bone broth (stock) all day and getting a lot of probiotics and fermented vegetables helped me the most when I was transitioning.

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on April 11, 2011
at 04:44 AM

You mentioned cooking in butter. Could you be having lactose induced diarrhea?

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on November 21, 2010
at 05:39 PM

I have been having diarrhea for about 5 days now. I just started doing the paleo-diet this week and have lost 2.5 lbs. I am not wanting to lose weight, but have gone on the diet because it seems like it is healthy... as long as I keep my veggies and fruit up. Is it possible that the diarrhea is a result of the weight loss.? 2.5lbs in a week is alot. Perhaps I need to eat more fruit to get more carbs?

77ecc37f89dbe8f783179323916bd8e6

(5002)

on April 11, 2011
at 05:20 AM

It is normal to experience diarrhea in the beginning, as part of the set of symptoms that people refer to as low carb flu. Diarrhea was my main symptom too. The probable cause is that your gut is unloading large amounts of bacteria. Your pre-paleo gut flora are not equipped to break down all of the fat and meat. When the situation is bad enough, your gut's strategy is to attempt a 'dump' to give the flora that thrive on meat and fat a chance to populate. It'll get better. Eat fermented foods in the meantime - yogurt, kefir, kimchee, pickles, sauerkraut, etc.

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on June 10, 2010
at 02:24 PM

I've just been reading abut pancreatitis - one side symptom of which can be steatorrhea. And it has decided me to massively cut my wine consumption - which is something I enjoy and drink regularly. Recently, daily and too much. I shall soon find out if it is liked...

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on June 08, 2010
at 06:05 PM

If it is steatorrhea, determining the underlying cause can be important.

From the wiki: Treatments are mainly correction of the underlying cause, as well as digestive enzyme supplements

I'm glad the enzymes are helpful, but what is the underlying cause? There's nothing inherent in the Paleo diet that should cause this after a couple of months to transition.

Have you taken a lot of antibiotics in the past?

Do digestive ailments or autoimmune conditions run in your extended family?

Do you ever "cheat with wheat"? Drink beer? Cook in a kitchen with wheat-eaters?

When did you start eating Primal and when did you move to Paleo?

Another supplement that can help is glutamine. I believe you only need it for a week or so. The Protein Power Life Plan book discusses it along with a "gut rehab" plan.

Here's a post on paleo diet problems: http://freetheanimal.com/2010/01/paleo-diet-problems-big-problems.html

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on June 08, 2010
at 11:24 AM

I've dropped vegetables too low recently, mostly eating just meat and coconut oil/milk, and had horrible stomach problems for 4-5 days (constipation, severe aches). I started eating a good deal of greens again and things have since cleared up. I've got to make a point each day to eat vegetables, because it's easy to forget.

By the way, I don't know how much WF charges for digestive enzymes, but NOWfoods makes a good one, SuperEnzyme, that can be found at a decent price on iherb.com. That's what I use.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 03, 2012
at 08:28 PM

I tried the NOWfoods Super Enzymes and they gave me something like a nappy rash. lol. Seriously. My bum cheeks were very sore and red but the actual anus was ok. I didn't realise that it was the NOWfoods enzymes that was causing the rash until I read another member here describing the same problem and saying that it was the enzymes causing it.

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on June 07, 2010
at 11:56 PM

I was going to respond to the OP that it might have just been a dietary fat-overload. But awesome wiki, i had never heard of steatorrhea.

Dont get me wrong, im all for eating a lot of good quality fat (avoid the PUFAs as we all know, but) but in the past when i was trying to really lean out i went in for zerocarb ketosis. hardcore. I did notice that lateish at night, after a dinner where i would have had a goodly amount of cheese (in addition to all the protein and other fat in the meal) that i would just have liquid diarrhea. Sucked. Id say over maybe 1.5 to 2 weeks of zerocarbing it or near-zerocarbing it this happened maybe 4 or 5 times. A lot, in other words. Scared me. I dont recommend doing what i did. I am firmly grok at the moment, eating a good amount of leafy greens, broccoli, cauliflower, cucumbers, etc (i do avoid nightshades wholly, though) and have wonderful movements every morning. Sometimes one in the afternoon, too. -ben

485bcefe7f1f7a6df1a293a826bf6137

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on June 08, 2010
at 10:30 PM

Same with me. My bowels had always been fine, even eating junk. Started zero-carb 9 months ago. All I was eating was meat. After a few months I began getting horrible diarrhea every few days, sometimes all liquid--as if I was prepping for a colonoscopy--and terrible gas cramping. The attack could last a couple of hours. Pepto-Bismol actually worked wonders, but I knew something wasn't right. I Just started eating cooked, non-starch veggies again--bok choi, daikon, collards, kale, or even just a pickle. Everything's back to normal.

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on June 07, 2010
at 06:58 PM

Could this be an argument for raw meat?

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on June 10, 2010
at 12:27 PM

I think that raw meat is ok in some circumstances, (hooray for super high quality food) but I really would not consider it as a cure for digestive ills. If the digestive tract is 'unhappy' it is time to be subtracting things from the diet, not adding what (for most modern eaters) a novel item.

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on June 07, 2010
at 06:38 PM

I had this problem too, and after a month I couldn't handle it anymore. So, I reintroduced dairy and it helped me a lot, but if I didn't have enough I was back to the same issue. I then started adding some carbs back in because it was causing so many issues. Now that I know this, I am going to attempt paleo again plus digestive enzymes. Thanks for posting! I couldn't find anything on this subject when I needed it.

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