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Help needed for tummy issues before traveling!!!

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 09, 2011 at 2:31 PM

So I'm traveling in a week and now struck with diarrhea, help!

history:

leaky gut and lots of continuing food allergies. Need to start GAPS but was holding off until after my trip. Primal since Jan. this year. Currently removing caseins and egg yolk due to new allergies.

current:

For about 10 days I have been having tummy issues, it started when we went out to eat and I apparently got something contaminated with beef juices which I'm allergic to.

So last week I just ate mildly and it wasn't as bad but still every morning issues with strong spasms and in the WC all morning/this is typical for a food reaction for me. Saturday I started getting stronger spasms in my intestines and colon and today (day 10) its pure diarrhea/spasms are milder.

So really, I'm wondering if this is my doing......6 days ago I started a stronger probiotic, Mark Sissons brand and its one cap of 30 billion cfu (was on another at 1.2million). If its die off wouldn't it have started sooner than day 5-6?

Also I was planning on starting the NOW Digestive Enzymes today, should I hold off or will it help?

I'm traveling overseas in a week so I'm going to do broths for a few days to see if that helps. Otherwise I'll have to start taking Imodium again just to get from point A to point B (had been living on it for years until going primal-only take occasionally to function last resort).

I've read threw some of the posts but wondering if these changes might be my answer (I'm very new to the probiotic, digestive enzyme things)

My questions:

  1. keep taking the probiotic? stop?

  2. reduce the probiotic? (guess i have to break open the capsule to do that??)

  3. start taking the digestive enzyme or wait?

  4. any other ideas??

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on May 24, 2011
at 02:20 PM

thanks everyone, I managed to make it there and back, with help from Imodium and constant vigilance. I stopped the probiotic for now and only used DE when eating something suspect. My sister swears by them (she has an autistic child), frankly I dont see any difference. Definitely need the GAPS but have another upcoming international move in the next month or so, so this makes it difficult to do something so drastic.

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on May 24, 2011
at 12:45 AM

A direct beef allergy does sound unlikely, though it's entirely possible that complex and chronic problems going on downstairs can lead to all sorts of crazy sensitivities and reactions to just about anything. Once the gut is leaky and all sorts of dietary proteins get through, just about anything can trigger immune responses - and immune responses can be learned to many things in ongoing cases. Once you get that under control (GAPS sounds like a great idea) you may find you can slowly reintroduce beef. That will be a long way down the road, though, and doesn't help for your trip - sorry.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on May 09, 2011
at 03:42 PM

If it is due to a beef allergy then I would imagine by the time your trip comes, you should be feeling better by then. But I would still trying discontinuing the probiotic. Have you also checked that there are no additives in the supplement that you may be having trouble with? Digestive enzymes, btw, are basically quackery. Most enzymes will be denatured by the high acidity of your stomach and will do absolutely nothing. Barring serious illness your body produces its own digestive enzymes. Anyone who says differently is trying to sell you something. So I wouldn't waste money on that.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on May 09, 2011
at 02:57 PM

no I am allergic to beef, the intestinal inflammation (tested and confirmed in the past, I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true) cause prolonged diarrhea at times it can last up to a month if hits hard or if one exposure after another that sends me spiraling. I live in a country where they dont have food allergies and often tell me, 'its just a little bit'-like that makes a difference. Doubt is an infection, I've had this same issue due to food allergies (beef the worst, soy 2nd, corn 3rd, etc.) for over 7 years. 3 recent exposures to beef over the last 3-4 months and each time gets worse.

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Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on May 23, 2011
at 09:36 PM

It sounds like you are probably at too high a dosage of the Probiotics. You may want to go to a very minimal dose, and see if that helps. The charcoal idea should give you immediate relief, and the bone broth will give you easily digested form of proteins and minerals. GAPS sounds like a good match for you, but judging by your current state, you may want some guidance and support with the transition.

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on May 23, 2011
at 08:21 PM

have you tried Charcoal tablets? I find that they help whenever I am having digestive trouble. or some vinegar water even?

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C074eec3b3c0325ef3018a128111823a

(1012)

on May 24, 2011
at 12:48 AM

A direct beef allergy does sound unlikely, though it's entirely possible that complex and chronic problems going on downstairs can lead to all sorts of crazy sensitivities and reactions to just about anything. Once the gut is leaky and all sorts of dietary proteins get through, just about anything can trigger immune responses - and immune responses can be learned to many things in ongoing cases, when they present in combination with an existing trigger.

Once you get that under control (for which, GAPS sounds like a great idea) you may find you can slowly reintroduce beef. That will be a long way down the road, though, and doesn't help for your trip - sorry.

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78f4a1b90814931891179fca3b987292

on May 23, 2011
at 08:47 PM

I have IBS and probiotic pills are an absolute guarantee of awful diarrhea. I would definitely stop that now and see if it helps. I would not start the enzymes either. IMHO acute attacks are times to eliminate add-ons, not to add more.

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7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on May 09, 2011
at 02:45 PM

True allergic reactions don't last for ten days. Even if you really have an allergy to beef (not common at all) there is no way a real allergic reaction could last for ten days, or that accidentally ingesting a little bit of beef juice could lead to such a prolonged and severe reaction. You may have infectious gastroenteritis. If that's the case then it should go away on its own within a week (from symptom onset). Sometimes stomach sensitivity/diarrhea can last for a bit longer even after you are better. "Die off" is pure pseudoscientific nonsense and has nothing to do with your problem. If I were you I would also stop taking the probiotic at least temporarily, and see if the stomach problems alleviate.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on May 09, 2011
at 02:57 PM

no I am allergic to beef, the intestinal inflammation (tested and confirmed in the past, I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true) cause prolonged diarrhea at times it can last up to a month if hits hard or if one exposure after another that sends me spiraling. I live in a country where they dont have food allergies and often tell me, 'its just a little bit'-like that makes a difference. Doubt is an infection, I've had this same issue due to food allergies (beef the worst, soy 2nd, corn 3rd, etc.) for over 7 years. 3 recent exposures to beef over the last 3-4 months and each time gets worse.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on May 09, 2011
at 03:42 PM

If it is due to a beef allergy then I would imagine by the time your trip comes, you should be feeling better by then. But I would still trying discontinuing the probiotic. Have you also checked that there are no additives in the supplement that you may be having trouble with? Digestive enzymes, btw, are basically quackery. Most enzymes will be denatured by the high acidity of your stomach and will do absolutely nothing. Barring serious illness your body produces its own digestive enzymes. Anyone who says differently is trying to sell you something. So I wouldn't waste money on that.

C074eec3b3c0325ef3018a128111823a

(1012)

on May 24, 2011
at 12:45 AM

A direct beef allergy does sound unlikely, though it's entirely possible that complex and chronic problems going on downstairs can lead to all sorts of crazy sensitivities and reactions to just about anything. Once the gut is leaky and all sorts of dietary proteins get through, just about anything can trigger immune responses - and immune responses can be learned to many things in ongoing cases. Once you get that under control (GAPS sounds like a great idea) you may find you can slowly reintroduce beef. That will be a long way down the road, though, and doesn't help for your trip - sorry.

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