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Modern medicine's dietary advice contradicts itself.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 05, 2012 at 7:14 PM

My mother-in-law was diagnosed diabetic. Her doctor put her on a low carb diet that has, so far, kept her off insulin. Before being diabetic that same doctor would have told her to eat more carbs and less fat. That alone should tell people that high carb diets are wrong. Why not change the advice to low carb and reduce the number of diabetics? With all of the evidence proving that modern dietary advice, high carb low fat, is wrong how can doctors still push that garbage? How can medical schools still teach it?

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on March 10, 2012
at 12:14 PM

@thhq I think you will like to read this: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046739.php

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on March 09, 2012
at 03:12 PM

They get fired by their patients if they tell them they're fat. My doctor never told me what to eat for 5 years, until he diagnosed diabetes.

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on March 07, 2012
at 06:56 PM

To add another level to this, how much of it has to do with the drug companies? With their money flying everywhere in Washington and in the doctor's faces is that a motivator to keep people sick?

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on March 06, 2012
at 03:14 PM

Tyler, you nailed it. Most physicians and dietitians still don't realize that total and saturated fat consumption are not detrimental to cardiovascular health.

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on March 06, 2012
at 12:18 AM

I disagree. I think it is more the case that some people are more afraid of losing their power.

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on March 06, 2012
at 12:15 AM

It is amazing that she got any kind of doctor to recommend low carb, even after a serious illness has set in.

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on March 05, 2012
at 11:19 PM

It was the reverse for me. I was training hard years ago and developed IR. trigs went to 1,600 at one point. Fortunately I was sticking to my low fat regime the hospital gave me. (haha) For anyone left that still accepts the concept of sugar burning and what can happen, you know the rest. By the time I found a doc that could unravel it, I had no thyroid, high rT3, CRF, and IR. don't even tell me weight caused it!

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:16 PM

@Travis Culp - exactly what I wanted to say! +1

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:11 PM

bingo and plus one

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on March 05, 2012
at 07:58 PM

Insulin resistance occurs to resist weight gain. The best way to avoid insulin resistance is to avoid weight gain. Low fat or low carb or moderate everything are all valid approaches as long as calories are controlled.

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on March 05, 2012
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Perhaps it's misguided to assume that because carbohydrate avoidance treats the symptoms of diabetes that carbohydrates are involved in the etiology of the disease.

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on March 05, 2012
at 07:56 PM

Recently I started to believe it is just because of money. Just think about how profitable is a high carb diet. Sugar is addictive and you need to eat/spend more. A "low-fat" or "healthy" label only means you must pay extra and feel hungry faster to buy again.

On the other hand, modern medicine is not contradictory. Actually there have always been doctors and scientists blaming the dangers of high-carb diets, it is just that they get fired if they say such things too loud.

Personally the whole Paleo discovery has really shown me how far money can influence academia. Take this story as an example: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_geneticfood37.htm

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:11 PM

bingo and plus one

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on March 10, 2012
at 12:14 PM

@thhq I think you will like to read this: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046739.php

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on March 09, 2012
at 03:12 PM

They get fired by their patients if they tell them they're fat. My doctor never told me what to eat for 5 years, until he diagnosed diabetes.

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on March 05, 2012
at 07:40 PM

It is a SAD state of affairs is it not?

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:51 PM

In a word, the problem is inertia. There are a whole lot people who would have to admit they were wrong. A rational person would update their thinking when the evidence calls for it, but it's not that easy when money and politics contaminate the scientific method.

The tides will change when enough people as individuals come to their own conclusions independently.

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on March 05, 2012
at 09:08 PM

Having taken some formal nutritional courses, the main reason for this is simple:

People are more afraid of heart disease (see: saturated fat) than they are anything else.

They know that these types of diets can cause these issues, but they cannot recommend much saturated fat in one's diet because they believe it will lead to heart disease.

Cdee7454bccdc4ac14ec23b9657eb573

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on March 06, 2012
at 03:14 PM

Tyler, you nailed it. Most physicians and dietitians still don't realize that total and saturated fat consumption are not detrimental to cardiovascular health.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on March 06, 2012
at 12:18 AM

I disagree. I think it is more the case that some people are more afraid of losing their power.

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on March 08, 2012
at 01:29 PM

Questioning conventional wisdom is fine. Remember that the low carb diet for diabetes treatment is conventional wisdom. It predates Atkins and Cordain by decades as ADA carb exchange counting.

My doctor recommended the same thing. When I followed the advice my blood sugar and A1C dropped in line. Exchange counting isn't so much low carb as it is less high glycemic carbs.

I credit my doctor for what he did. I fault him for not running blood tests to catch it sooner, but I only visit him once a year so that's partly my fault. I'll also fault him for not criticizing my obesity which was the root of the problem. That's a vanity thing though - "lifestyle choice" - and he wanted to keep my business.

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on March 07, 2012
at 11:39 PM

I agree while-heartedly with Carl. Health has become extremely politicized in this country!

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