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Depressed when hungover

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 05, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Paleo has hugely improved my depression but I notice I still get depressed as hell when I'm hungover

Does anyone have any idea why this might be or have any tips to prevent it? (aside from the obvious one)

Sorry if this is a silly question but it would be interesting to know what the connection might be

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 06, 2012
at 11:41 AM

I might give it a try then, seems like I have a supplement for almost everything now though! haha

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

(1478)

on May 06, 2012
at 03:20 AM

A lot of people take b vitamins to avoid a hangover. I think that in combination with the coconut water or pedialite and water should help. The same thing happens to me when I drink, but I think lac of sleep is part of the problem.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on May 06, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Stop drinking! :)

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:54 AM

Oh, well, I have that dread everyday, sorry :(

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on May 06, 2012
at 12:33 AM

I think it would be a great thing to try. I would try it before going to sleep. I'd love to see some people try this and report back. :)

016de26fe61daf799662d3b7b2468324

(688)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:26 AM

I think that was the obvious one. (although I totally agree and it makes sense.)

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:14 AM

yes but having this awful sense of dread and hopelessness is something else

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:47 PM

I've been known to be depressed when I didn't wake up alone ...

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:46 PM

By depressed I mean feeling hopeless and full of despair

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:44 PM

I have to say I appreciate this response, saying just don't drink is not helpful tbh, particularly in response to this specific question

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:40 PM

interesting theory, do you think taking a vitamin b sup before going to sleep or maybe in the morning might help?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:12 PM

I'm a drinker so I can relate. I don't however get depressed and rarely have a hangover. Those seem like legit concerns if happening too frequently. Otherwise your remedy sounds like what I do...along with a REALLY FATTY BREAKFAST.....I mean eggs just swimming in butter....helps a ton.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on May 05, 2012
at 10:39 PM

There is also the solution of "drink in moderation" -- in other words, don't drink to the point where you're going to get a hangover. There's no need to get drunk to enjoy a drink with friends.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on May 05, 2012
at 10:33 PM

Henry - Please understand I'm not being moralistic here. But, if "don't do whatever it is you're doing that depresses you" is not the answer HB or you wants to hear, what do you want to hear? Take XYZ do ABC, LMNOP, QRSTUV, etc. etc. all to combat the inevitable outcome of some behavior? Or not engage in the behavior? I understand it's difficult at times, but part of caring for yourself means not doing what you know will harm you based on external forces. Hope that makes sense. Signed, very imperfect human

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 05, 2012
at 10:22 PM

Gluten or some other concomitant substance. Consider drinking non-gluten alcohols.

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

(1478)

on May 05, 2012
at 09:17 PM

Also you might be dehydrated. Drink lots of water and coconut water before bed.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

(2227)

on May 05, 2012
at 08:55 PM

yup, tough love

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on May 05, 2012
at 08:40 PM

I don't think things are ever that simple. The serotonin/depression (whatever we mean by that term) link is about as well-established as the cholesterol/heart disease link.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on May 05, 2012
at 08:19 PM

Does "depressed" = "feel guilty"? I'm not being snarky here. Just curious. People throw around terms and often times we're not talking about the same thing.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:15 AM

This is kind of like, "Doc, it hurts when I do this!" Doc - "Don't do that!"

But seriously, a hangover is a low-energy state and depression is a low-energy state. If you do anything that produces a low-energy state, you're going to be depressed. Ever seen anyone with a high-energy state and feeling good that was depressed? Won't happen. Or if you know a way, please let me know.

That's the bad news. The good news is that if you stick closer to pure likkers like 100% blue agave tequila and most (but not all) straight bourbons (with no gluten), you're much less likely to have a hangover, provided, of course, that you are still capable of a certain amount of restraint and wisdom in your drunken stupor. Nothing will depress you quicker than sweet, sugary alcoholic drinks, rum, beer, and the sweeter wines. Those are for kids anyway. Real men and women have learned to get away from that stuff and stick to good likker.

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D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

(1010)

on May 05, 2012
at 09:11 PM

I used to ask these same kind of questions on PH, and would get these unrealistic answers, so I hope I'm providing an answer to you so you don't feel so alone. In reality, life is easier if you are albe to have an occasional drink everyone now and then. Especially if you want to grow as a person, you are going to need to make new friends, business ones usually, and alcohol is going to be there and how you act around it is going to matter, just being truthful. It annoys me to hear "don't drink" as an answer, that's not what your looking for. Truth is, the majority of people in normal situations a least drink a little, and so many places, atmospheres, people are going to be drinking, so we would just like to be able to drink some, and not be so hungover. My tip: get a juicer, make a mostly vegetables juice with some fruit, include ginger. This seems to help the healing process and bring back some vitality, but I don't know a cure, but I don't think to swear off drinking is good, I tried it, and all it did was remove me from friends.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on May 05, 2012
at 10:39 PM

There is also the solution of "drink in moderation" -- in other words, don't drink to the point where you're going to get a hangover. There's no need to get drunk to enjoy a drink with friends.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:44 PM

I have to say I appreciate this response, saying just don't drink is not helpful tbh, particularly in response to this specific question

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on May 05, 2012
at 10:33 PM

Henry - Please understand I'm not being moralistic here. But, if "don't do whatever it is you're doing that depresses you" is not the answer HB or you wants to hear, what do you want to hear? Take XYZ do ABC, LMNOP, QRSTUV, etc. etc. all to combat the inevitable outcome of some behavior? Or not engage in the behavior? I understand it's difficult at times, but part of caring for yourself means not doing what you know will harm you based on external forces. Hope that makes sense. Signed, very imperfect human

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:12 PM

I'm a drinker so I can relate. I don't however get depressed and rarely have a hangover. Those seem like legit concerns if happening too frequently. Otherwise your remedy sounds like what I do...along with a REALLY FATTY BREAKFAST.....I mean eggs just swimming in butter....helps a ton.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on May 05, 2012
at 08:45 PM

You might be depressed because you went out drinking and woke up alone ;)

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:47 PM

I've been known to be depressed when I didn't wake up alone ...

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

(2227)

on May 05, 2012
at 08:55 PM

yup, tough love

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24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on May 05, 2012
at 08:45 PM

Ummm .... Don't consume alcohol! Seriously, if you're aware of such predictably negative outcomes, why drink? This is not a judgment on drinking but rather that if ANY activity reproducibly effects you in such a negative fashion, why do it?

016de26fe61daf799662d3b7b2468324

(688)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:26 AM

I think that was the obvious one. (although I totally agree and it makes sense.)

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26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on May 05, 2012
at 09:52 PM

I haven't ever met someone who WASN'T depressed during a hangover. Who can be all happy and sunshiny with a hangover?

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:14 AM

yes but having this awful sense of dread and hopelessness is something else

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:54 AM

Oh, well, I have that dread everyday, sorry :(

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7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

(7275)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:06 PM

I wonder if temporary b-vitamin deficiency is at play.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:40 PM

interesting theory, do you think taking a vitamin b sup before going to sleep or maybe in the morning might help?

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

(7275)

on May 06, 2012
at 12:33 AM

I think it would be a great thing to try. I would try it before going to sleep. I'd love to see some people try this and report back. :)

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on May 06, 2012
at 11:41 AM

I might give it a try then, seems like I have a supplement for almost everything now though! haha

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

(1478)

on May 06, 2012
at 03:20 AM

A lot of people take b vitamins to avoid a hangover. I think that in combination with the coconut water or pedialite and water should help. The same thing happens to me when I drink, but I think lac of sleep is part of the problem.

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3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on May 05, 2012
at 09:46 PM

If your depression lasts AFTER your hangover dissipates, try 5-HTP and more easily digested proteins into your diet (egg yolks, whey, etc.)

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Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

(1478)

on May 05, 2012
at 09:16 PM

As others have said alcohol is a depressant. What ever that means. Also from my experience when I drink I stay up later than usual and get really bad sleep. This may have something to do with it, lack of sleep has the same effect.

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

(1478)

on May 05, 2012
at 09:17 PM

Also you might be dehydrated. Drink lots of water and coconut water before bed.

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Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

on May 05, 2012
at 08:36 PM

I experienced this pretty often when I was younger, usually had a feeling of dread for most of the day.

But, I remember hearing that since Alcohol is a CNS (central nervous system) depressant, that it also causes depressive symptoms. But thinking a little more about it, it's probably not that, but that it's most likely changing the levels of serotonin or dopamine in your brain. Doing a quick Google (alcohol serotonin depletion) turns up hits on serotonin deficiency and alcoholism, so I think we have the link there.

Long story short: Alcohol consumption depletes serotonin levels (after the intoxication wears off, of course)

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on May 05, 2012
at 08:40 PM

I don't think things are ever that simple. The serotonin/depression (whatever we mean by that term) link is about as well-established as the cholesterol/heart disease link.

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2a0f1afde303eadc422d015fc22f7512

(1118)

on May 06, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Alcohol is a neurotoxin (which basically sounds as bad as it is and explains why it makes you feel like crap). It gives me anxiety for days after a bender.

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Cdbfa5e332dc69db6505f803bd2df63a

on May 06, 2012
at 05:46 AM

I do think it's the nature of the beast - all things considered from a psychological/nutritional aspect.

I will say I know exactly what you mean - it is not just the physical symptoms, but some added emotional element. Existential. Edgy. From what I understand - at least in alcoholics - this whole syndrome is part of the cycle, the high that guarantees that low. There have been a few psychologists out there who have tried to tackle this - sorry, I don't have any book titles. You can easily search this. Years ago I wondered at - (not so much my drinking, though clearly enough often enough to have a hangover that created the curiosity)- this existential quality & found a few interesting books - just been years now & I don't remember off the top of my head.

It seems the idea of some archetypal 'initiation' theme was prominent in these books.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on May 05, 2012
at 11:03 PM

A little hair of the dog will cure all your problems....

Just kidding don't be an alcoholic for more than four years or so during college....after that it gets to be counterproductive.

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9da46402c1c027ed7fec51dcac895643

on May 05, 2012
at 09:22 PM

I many times find myself avoiding social situations that take place at a bar or are with people who drink heavily because I also get very depressed when hung over and it is not "feeling guilty". It is the same kind of depression I get when I try to quit caffeine and when I quit smoking years ago. For this reason I tend to believe this depression is related to a decrease in dopamine.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on May 05, 2012
at 08:30 PM

1) this is not a paleo question. 2) this is not a paleo question 3) stop binge drinking it's bad for your body.

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