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Concern about mercury fillings

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 22, 2011 at 11:07 PM

In my quest overcome a life-long lack of energy, I've occassionally thought about whether my mouth full of mercury fillings might be a culprit. It certainly isn't paleo.

Has anybody here dealt with this or given it any thought? Has anybody had them removed? I've heard you should use a specially-trained dentist to avoid risking a massive exposure during removal.

Or is it all just a bunch of hooey?

3fc07ff31006b1860083f0cfe4472ae4

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on June 02, 2011
at 07:11 PM

I buy my seaweed from Larch Hansen in Maine. I bought a year supply for a family and I was surprised by the quality. I like that he's an independent seller. And yes, all good food quality all the time! http://www.alcasoft.com/seaweed/

3fc07ff31006b1860083f0cfe4472ae4

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on June 02, 2011
at 07:10 PM

I buy my seaweed from Larch Hansen in Maine. I bought a year supply for a family and I was surprised by the quality. I like that he's an independent seller. But yes, all food quality all the time!

0d50f54d2c57d74806be35d916f8dc74

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on June 01, 2011
at 07:33 PM

Thanks, ladyp. I'm 43 also, and the cost would be prohibitive right now - and the thought of that much recovery time sounds brutal. I have huge molar fillings, also from childhood, and I wonder how much longer they'll hold up.

1ccc0b0b7a756cd42466cef8f450d0cb

(1801)

on June 01, 2011
at 06:40 PM

Make sure the seaweed you are using is a quality product. Because it binds so well, the seaweed itself can be contaminated with heavy metals like mercury.

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on June 01, 2011
at 06:20 PM

I wonder if you had elevated mercury levels due to the removal process, not from having them in there for so long.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 23, 2011
at 06:53 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Huggins Huggins is a fanatic

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 23, 2011
at 06:51 PM

And yes I used to be a dentist before I was neurosurgeon. I know what I speak of here.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 23, 2011
at 06:50 PM

Hg is not bioavalable in fish......selenium protects you. This is another dogmatic issue. Eat fish

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 06:49 PM

Agreed.".......

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 23, 2011
at 06:48 PM

Use cilantro for heavy metals....but the data on Hg is not solid. I would never recommend removing amalgams to reduce Hg levels

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 23, 2011
at 04:19 PM

I agree.......not a fan

13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

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on April 23, 2011
at 02:40 AM

the newer composite materials contain BPA and need to be replaced more often. Here's a research report from the EU http://www.google.com/search?q=european%20union%20amalgam%20mercury

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 23, 2011
at 12:38 AM

So what inspired you to do this? What makes you think this is not just another "Alternative" mythology that people rally around since they lost religion?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 22, 2011
at 11:56 PM

I will tell you the story of the dentist who replaced my amalgams. By the way, if you decide to have it done, he is cheap (most of these doctors are not) and, I believe, he is very well-intentioned (of course, that doesn't mean he's right). He claimed that he used to think the mercury issue was phooey. He then started having MS symptoms. I believe, numbness in his legs. He researched it and realized it was the mercury. He claims that after he had his removed and stopped using mercury in his practice, he was relieved of these symptoms.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 22, 2011
at 11:50 PM

About two years ago, I had all my amalgams removed by a dentist trained and equipped to do so safely. I cannot tell you that I noticed any dramatic improvement afterwards. According to certain people you have detox the mercury out of your system. Indeed, afterwards I was tested for mercury using a DMPS challenge. It showed me to have extremely high levels of mercury. I then had about 5 sessions of IV DMPS. Even after that, the labs show a lot of mercury.

My conclusions: I don't know. I don't know if the labs were accurate or inaccurate. It's hard to say if removing the amalgams helped or not. As with diet stuff, there is a lot of dogma out there. You will inevitably run into the name of Andrew Cutler if you pursue this. He's a Princeton trained biochemist who's made quite a name for himself as having discovered a way to detox mercury. I was unimpressed by him, and actually got thrown off of a Yahoo list which touts his methodology :) when I asked too many questions (to him).

The head of the Chemistry Dept at University of Kentucky, Boyd Haley, has also done a lot of research on this question, and I would tend to pay attention to what he has to say on it. He does indeed think that you can get mercury poisoning from amalgams,but his approach is quite different.

Cutler's methodology is difficult to follow but cheap. DMPS is easy but expensive (and it didn't work for me). I don't even know if I should trust the lab results I got.

So, basically I've just told you a lot and nothing. I don't know what to make of the mercury issue. Is it just another "Alternative Health" scam? I am not sure one way or the other. Look into it carefully.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 22, 2011
at 11:56 PM

I will tell you the story of the dentist who replaced my amalgams. By the way, if you decide to have it done, he is cheap (most of these doctors are not) and, I believe, he is very well-intentioned (of course, that doesn't mean he's right). He claimed that he used to think the mercury issue was phooey. He then started having MS symptoms. I believe, numbness in his legs. He researched it and realized it was the mercury. He claims that after he had his removed and stopped using mercury in his practice, he was relieved of these symptoms.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 06:51 PM

And yes I used to be a dentist before I was neurosurgeon. I know what I speak of here.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 06:48 PM

Use cilantro for heavy metals....but the data on Hg is not solid. I would never recommend removing amalgams to reduce Hg levels

Medium avatar

(39831)

on June 01, 2011
at 06:20 PM

I wonder if you had elevated mercury levels due to the removal process, not from having them in there for so long.

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3fc07ff31006b1860083f0cfe4472ae4

(561)

on June 01, 2011
at 06:00 PM

I had 3 fillings replaced in March this year. I sought out a "holistic dentist" because I'd heard an interview w/a holistic dentist (Rupam Henry/link below) recommending that HD's are trained to remove the mercury the best. (A friend who has Chronic Fatique Syndrome seconded the recommendation of a holistic dentist). I'm not sure what to make of all what Rupam says but I did find a guy who had gone through a very competitive dentistry school and was holistic and specialized in silver/mercury removal.

Like Thomas, I can't say I feel any different at all. Maybe it takes time for the mercury to leave the body? I know eating seaweed helps with the removal. I too always wonder if the zealousness about their removal is earned. The fact that they don't allow silver fillings in Germany (&other places) made me feel better about the removal.

Getting molar fillings replaced is no small job--it's a trauma to your body and a month-and-a-half later I can tell my mouth is still healing (I'm 43). They are getting better but I still can't chew the way I used to. So, I don't know how old you are but you might want to consider that a factor. I'm in good health but it's still a big job.

My dentist did say that the silver fillings were cracking since they were so old, from childhood, so I figured it was worth it.

It'd be really most worth it if you can afford to get porcelain fillings since they last the longest, but they are very expensive if you have a few teeth to do.

Good luck.

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/62109

1ccc0b0b7a756cd42466cef8f450d0cb

(1801)

on June 01, 2011
at 06:40 PM

Make sure the seaweed you are using is a quality product. Because it binds so well, the seaweed itself can be contaminated with heavy metals like mercury.

0d50f54d2c57d74806be35d916f8dc74

(634)

on June 01, 2011
at 07:33 PM

Thanks, ladyp. I'm 43 also, and the cost would be prohibitive right now - and the thought of that much recovery time sounds brutal. I have huge molar fillings, also from childhood, and I wonder how much longer they'll hold up.

3fc07ff31006b1860083f0cfe4472ae4

(561)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:11 PM

I buy my seaweed from Larch Hansen in Maine. I bought a year supply for a family and I was surprised by the quality. I like that he's an independent seller. And yes, all good food quality all the time! http://www.alcasoft.com/seaweed/

3fc07ff31006b1860083f0cfe4472ae4

(561)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:10 PM

I buy my seaweed from Larch Hansen in Maine. I bought a year supply for a family and I was surprised by the quality. I like that he's an independent seller. But yes, all food quality all the time!

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E7be2ce38158357f5dacae07b43d1b29

on April 23, 2011
at 01:17 AM

From everything I understand about the science of mercury, and what has been studied and published, is that the only mercury that binds with body tissue in humans is the kind that is dissolved in water under certain pH and other conditions. This is why mercury from consuming older fish is bad, because it's bio-available, while in the metal state, it supposedly is not. Just like licking a copper pipe won't give you a dietary source of copper, but cooking acidic foods in an aluminum pan will eventually pit the pan, meaning some of the surface aluminum has been leached from the pan into the acidic liquid.

That said, I don't know how well the conditions under which it become bio-available is known. From what I understand now, I would say that any mercury that would enter our bodies in a bio-available form would be released when the conditions in our mouths are adequate to liberate the mercury from the fillings into the methylmercury state. I haven't read enough about how that chemical transition is made or how much methylmercury the amount in the surface of a mercury amalgam could produce under the right conditions to become bioavailable to the body. I don't have any definitive answers, but perhaps this background information can shed some perspective.

Also, I can say for sure that my lifelong lack of energy is due to fibromyalgia, and I've had it since I was a young kid. I'd watch other kids play sports and not understand why they would want to do something so painful. Studies have shown that people with fibro have brains that are wired differently in regards to the behavior in the pain centers, but no links to causes at this stage of research. Mercury? Maybe, or the nearly 300 other chemicals I was likely born with, or some combination thereof.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 06:50 PM

Hg is not bioavalable in fish......selenium protects you. This is another dogmatic issue. Eat fish

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94c5e28d32b44e38fd0a36f305e7fee5

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on April 22, 2011
at 11:54 PM

I am in process of getting mine removed. I have two more to go. It is imperative that you go to someone that is trained under the Hal Huggins protocal. Go to this website to find a dentist www.iamot.org.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 23, 2011
at 12:38 AM

So what inspired you to do this? What makes you think this is not just another "Alternative" mythology that people rally around since they lost religion?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 06:53 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Huggins Huggins is a fanatic

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 06:49 PM

Agreed.".......

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 22, 2011
at 11:11 PM

I think it BS but if I need one redone I go for inert gold only or inlay because the plastics are worse they use in composites

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 23, 2011
at 04:19 PM

I agree.......not a fan

13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on April 23, 2011
at 02:40 AM

the newer composite materials contain BPA and need to be replaced more often. Here's a research report from the EU http://www.google.com/search?q=european%20union%20amalgam%20mercury

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