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What is the Paleolithic Diet?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 15, 2011 at 10:27 PM

This is a simple question, right? It would appear not. Whenever, a dissident announces that he is no longer Paleo as in the article cited in this thread, some Paleohackers respond by saying that the author's definition is too narrow, "Paleo isn't low-carb, high fat" or something along those lines. The word "version" then appears and people agree that the dissident should try (or is trying) a different "version" of Paleo.

When I suggested my definition of Paleo as one in which one eat as near as possible to the way our H-G ancestors did, Bree (probably echoing many others) replied that, "this 'diet' was never about eating what an h-g ate, it was about eliminating processed crap".

Here's how Patrik defined it in this other thread: "The Paleo Diet is a meta-rule (a rule about rules) that only demands one thing; that we look at human nutrition through an evolutionary lens. End of story."

Patrik's definition would need further elaboration. What does it mean to "look at human nutrition through an evolutionary lens"? Do we consider that our diet might need to be different because of the environment we live under? What about climate..should someone in Newfoundland eat the same as someone in Ecuador? In any case, we can clearly see that it deviates from Bree's.

Well, we can all agree that Paleos place emphasis on eating meat and good fats, right? Not so fast. Here is a person asking if it is possible to be vegetarian and Paleo. Granted, I suspect that is an extreme minority. However, if we accept Bree's definition of Paleo and even allow that Paleo means to eat moderate protein and high fat, there is no reason why there couldn't be a vegetarian version of Paleo.

So, who's right? They all are. Here's my "working" definition of Paleo. Paleo is a general reference to a CLUSTER OF DIETS. A person may be considered Paleo by virtue of identifying himself as such. When the person no longer finds the term useful and does not consider himself Paleo, he should be considered as no longer following the Paleo diet. Hence, we should take Don Matesz at his word: he's not following a different version. He's not Paleo any more. Full stop.

So what do you think of that? What's your definition of Paleo? If my definition is true, then Paleo is at full-throttle nominalism. "Big deal", you say. "I don't care about debating the equivalent of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin." I would have to agree. However, it is important to pay attention to how your conception of Paleo helps or hinders your path towards greater health.

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on February 04, 2012
at 01:22 AM

+1, yea bronze badge #96

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on June 17, 2011
at 11:14 PM

ummmm...can i reverse backdraft my rear thing-a-ma-jig with a flux capacitor? :-D

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on June 17, 2011
at 07:04 PM

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/beyond-paleo-moving-from-a-paleo-diet-to-a-paleo-template

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on June 17, 2011
at 06:09 PM

You had me at quantum.

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on June 17, 2011
at 05:27 PM

Nah, turns out it was reverse backdraft nano technology that appeared as a fractiod due to the quantum synthetic response.

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on June 17, 2011
at 05:25 PM

Nice one. I think he sums it up well. Though to be totally honest I'd have to say I think Harris spelled it out very similarly way back with the original panu site.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on June 17, 2011
at 02:49 PM

Hold the phone...are you serious about the rear quadrant part? I've been looking to maximize that particular fractoid for years!

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on June 16, 2011
at 11:29 PM

Get out- is this serious?! holy moly I love these little bits. I believe it also maintains the mainframe equilibrium in such a way that maximally facilitates reverse osmatic cellular apoptosis of the right rear quadrant fractiod. I could be wrong though.

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on June 16, 2011
at 07:29 PM

well put. my thinking exactly

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on June 16, 2011
at 05:39 PM

I am with you too.. both Kamal and Sherpamelissa

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I would not eat worms just to live longer. Nope.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:51 PM

Ah, I see. Some people are really into longevity and some people are really into food. I might be a little more in the latter camp. You?

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:36 PM

you people! you have yet to realize the wonderfulness of cottages. I suppose the gastronomic nuance is lost on you;P Yknow, i do eat it to hit that 1.5 grams protein/LB bodyweight, but i'm smiling the whole damn time;)

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on June 16, 2011
at 08:44 AM

Agreed Josh. People today are too tuned in to the use of forms of cognitive dissonance to try to categorize their lives into more manageable compartments, instead of seeing the interconnectiveness of the way we are, how we evolved, how we interact as social animals and how the natural and spiritual world mediates our existence. It is a classic quantitative way of viewing things, instead of the Aristotelian "the whole is more than the sum of its parts". Paleo has become an empowering way to recognize the potentail consequences of a lack of awareness of how interconnected our well-being is.

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on June 16, 2011
at 07:29 AM

Great Question Thomas!

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on June 16, 2011
at 06:53 AM

Ha Ha!.. Point taken. But my basic question is how much do we weigh taste versus health and longevity. If an unprocessed Mealworm Larvae Diet is proven 100% to add 50 years to your life, what would one do?

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:55 AM

Bingo! Very nice.

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:46 AM

I love it Bree. Agree especially with locally sourced. That is a key factor for me when I think paleo since I'm both a steward to my body and my environment.

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:38 AM

That's a tough one. I'm not one of those people who find paleo soooo deliciously yummy. Plus, I can't really think of a diet that would be that gross. The Mealworm Larvae Diet?

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:36 AM

Ben, do you eat cottage cheese to feed your ravenous protein appetite? I'm not sure which cottage invented that cheese, but they must have been wack. Lumpy liquidy cheese curds?

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at 03:16 AM

Kamal - if high quality studies show a non-paleo diet is the best BUT it tasted gross, would you still stay Paleo..??

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on June 16, 2011
at 02:59 AM

When I used to force myself to eat it for the protein, I would make a chocolate protein pudding with cottage cheese, chocolate protein powder, a little bit of vanilla and an immersion blender. Now, that was edible.

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on June 16, 2011
at 02:35 AM

Zing, nice! I know I know, no one likes cottage cheese. I dig on the stuff though. I like that mushy porridge kind of texture. And I like cold things. Sounds weird but hot night in NYC, bit of food before bed and t hits the spot

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:52 AM

/o/\o\ Wonder Twins Power Activate!

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:43 AM

Bumblebee is MY favorite Transformer too! Man, we are freakin' peas in pod.

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:41 AM

Up vote... even though I'm a white guy.

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:36 AM

I was with you until the cottage cheese, Ben. Ewwwww. A bolus of CURDS. ;)

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:35 AM

I was with you until the cottage cheese, Ben. Ewwwww. A bolus of CURDS.

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:34 AM

Yes, it's what I take out that matters to me.

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at 01:33 AM

If high-quality studies came out showing that a non-paleo diet fared better for health, without tasting gross, I'd totally shift my boundaries.... ABSOLUTELY. Plus, I am totally in for the Optimus Prime Diet, but my favorite Transformer is Bumblebee.

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:54 AM

The honey badger - he's bad ass.

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:47 PM

That's pretty much how I view it. When people seem interested, I too avoid trying to define it as a diet. I just say I try to eat with a primal focus. Of course I end up having to elaborate on that and then I go into what I eat and avoid and why. I find people are a lot more open and interested if the words "diet", "in" and "out" are left out!

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:26 PM

Be aware that there is an entire area of study called "Cluster Analysis" for dietary pattern research...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16863714

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at 11:22 PM

Oops, what I meant is "based on leading paleo bloggers' critical appraisal of evidence" :)

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at 11:19 PM

BRUINS! (Nobody as to be ashamed to be a Bruin.)

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at 10:38 PM

I LOVE that you made a whole question about this! And that you gave me a shout out! I am going to answer this - but have a hockey game to get home to see (GO CANUCKS!!!)

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:05 PM

The Paleo diet (or lifestyle - as I don't really see it as a diet for me anymore) - through my lense:

Eat the best food possible when I'm hungry - don't eat when I'm not.

Best food: As much locally sourced meat, seafood, veggies and fruit as I can get my hands on. Dairy? - sometimes if that's what looks good and what my family feels like.

Worst food: refined sugar, grains, artificial flavours and colours!

I LOVE that different people can identify themselves as eating this way and be eating differently than me. It makes for good discussions and good sharing of information.

I am not a paleo cop, and I don't like that whole mentality. I think that the "that isn't paleo" attitude will turn people off - I know it turns me off when I read anything negative.

I want to include people and affect change for the better. Eating healthy is very important to me. I am constantly learning how to make healthy choices and this site helps me so much in that regard.

Call me Pollyanna - but I believe that we are all on here to make our lives a little better - and we are here to help each other acheive better health and in turn more happiness.

Cheers! Bree XO

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:46 AM

I love it Bree. Agree especially with locally sourced. That is a key factor for me when I think paleo since I'm both a steward to my body and my environment.

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:47 PM

That's pretty much how I view it. When people seem interested, I too avoid trying to define it as a diet. I just say I try to eat with a primal focus. Of course I end up having to elaborate on that and then I go into what I eat and avoid and why. I find people are a lot more open and interested if the words "diet", "in" and "out" are left out!

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

My definition of paleo is eating what is healthy, and mostly avoiding what not healthy, based on critical appraisal of evidence.

Since foods typically thought to be eaten by our paleolithic ancestors provides a nice heuristic, might as well call the way humans eat "paleo"! I'd rather call it something more catchy, like The Optimus Prime Diet, but oh well. The key for me is not the paleo part, but the melding of nutrition science with epidemiology and evolutionary guessing.

If high-quality studies came out showing that a non-paleo diet fared better for health, without tasting gross, I'd totally shift my boundaries. As of now, I just work off the presumption that Stephan Guyenet is probably right about what to eat, for most people.

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on June 16, 2011
at 06:53 AM

Ha Ha!.. Point taken. But my basic question is how much do we weigh taste versus health and longevity. If an unprocessed Mealworm Larvae Diet is proven 100% to add 50 years to your life, what would one do?

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:16 AM

Kamal - if high quality studies show a non-paleo diet is the best BUT it tasted gross, would you still stay Paleo..??

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 15, 2011
at 11:22 PM

Oops, what I meant is "based on leading paleo bloggers' critical appraisal of evidence" :)

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:52 AM

/o/\o\ Wonder Twins Power Activate!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:38 AM

That's a tough one. I'm not one of those people who find paleo soooo deliciously yummy. Plus, I can't really think of a diet that would be that gross. The Mealworm Larvae Diet?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on June 16, 2011
at 01:33 AM

If high-quality studies came out showing that a non-paleo diet fared better for health, without tasting gross, I'd totally shift my boundaries.... ABSOLUTELY. Plus, I am totally in for the Optimus Prime Diet, but my favorite Transformer is Bumblebee.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:43 AM

Bumblebee is MY favorite Transformer too! Man, we are freakin' peas in pod.

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on June 16, 2011
at 05:39 PM

I am with you too.. both Kamal and Sherpamelissa

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:51 PM

Ah, I see. Some people are really into longevity and some people are really into food. I might be a little more in the latter camp. You?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on June 16, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I would not eat worms just to live longer. Nope.

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on February 04, 2012
at 01:22 AM

+1, yea bronze badge #96

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:58 PM

My lens:

It seems to me that, barring some rare individual anomalies, most dolphins are going to be healthy swimming in the sea and eating fish. Simliarly, most lions are going to be healthy roaming the savannas and eating prey animals; most spiders are going to be healthy trapping and eating insects; most horses are going to be healthy roaming the plains and munching wild grasses; most vultures are going to be healthy scavenging rotted carcasses, and most honey-badgers are going to be healthy eating snakes, mice, grubs and not giving a shit.

It also makes sense to me that if any of these animals was switched to a diet of mostly corn, processed foods, sugar, taco bell, or an all-mushroom diet - it wouldn't be long before you had a bunch of chronically unhealthy animals.

This is how paleo makes sense to me. It's not about cave-men or hunter-gatherers. It's about nature. Without the artificial changes that humans have made to our diet since the dawn of civilization/agriculture - how is the human animal most healthy in nature?

I don't give a rats ass about nutrient ratios. I don't count anything I eat. Some days I eat more meat, some days I eat more veggies. Some days have more carbs, some days have more food in general. I try to eat when I'm hungry and I try to limit what I eat to things that fit my "through the eyes of nature" lens. I also intentionally try to get the most variety of foods I can within this definition. I will often eat something simply on the basis that I haven't had that particular food item in a while, trusting in variety to ensure I get the nutrition I need.

My lens is not limited to food. I try to get sunlight, exercise, fresh air, and good, clean water as much as I can. I'm not trying to re-create any hunter-gatherer lifestyle. I'm trying to live by the lessons that nature taught to my ancestors who survived to reproduce and eventually became me.

It makes as much sense to me that humans would be chronically sick eating clean meat, vegetables, fruits, etc as the idea that a dolphin would be chronically sick from eating clean, healthy fish. Nature worked these things out a long time ago.

I also find the whole "my diet is better than your diet", "person X didn't do well on their definition of your diet, so your diet must be bunk", "how do we get more people into/out of X diet" line of thought to be kind of silly (and possibly largely motivated by people trying to drive web traffic to sites/blogs or sell books).

My advice to anyone getting overly worked up about this stuff is: Stop stressing. Stop counting. Stop compartmentalizing. Stop convincing. Find a simple definition that works FOR YOU.

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:54 AM

The honey badger - he's bad ass.

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:39 PM

as i mentioned in the other thread, i believe that the baseline of paleo for me is removing the toxic substances of industrial seed oils, gluten containing grains, and limiting fructose in your diet- and preferably if u did it with whole foods. full stop.

no macronutrient ratio can be called paleo. kitavans get 80% or more of their calories from starchy carbs; inuits get about the same from fat. both are their ancestral diets. both eat from what their ecosystems have historically provided. what is true of both cultures is that those aforementioned toxins are not in their diets so they have drastically fewer cases of modern diseases than those who consume a SAD.

this is what paleo means for me. the word paleo and the many diets that attach themselves to that word is another conversation. or maybe that is the conversation...

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:34 AM

Yes, it's what I take out that matters to me.

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on June 16, 2011
at 07:03 PM

To me it is avoid grains, beans, seed/vegetable oils and sugar. Anything else is fine-tuning to suit the individual.

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on June 16, 2011
at 07:29 PM

well put. my thinking exactly

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:23 PM

On the meal spectrum where one end is a 64oz Mountain Dew, PB&J sandwich and cheetos (with a Ding Dong for dessert) and the other end is freshly killed meat roasted over a fire and tubers cooked in the coals (with a handful of berries for dessert), it is probably better to consistently lean toward the latter end.

"Paleo" is just a good introductory thought exercise that jolts people into thinking about doing things that are consistent with evolutionary "design," such as it is. After they say, "you know, that makes sense" the "paleo" part becomes irrelevant.

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:15 PM

None of the questions you ask about Patrik's meta-rule would change the rule if answered. The only way the meta-rule can be invalidated would be to show that human evolution cannot inform nutrition science. Unless you're a creationist, this is a bedrock assumption of biology, so the meta-rule would stand.

I would argue that most "paleo" diets in the cluster are fundamentally flawed in that they boil down to attempts at re-enactment of specific behaviors, often random and speculative (ie made up) behaviors. In fact the only formulation of paleo which makes a lick of sense to me is Kurt Harris's exclusionary heuristic, so I tend not to think of other "paleo" diets as such. But now Kurt has gone and moved away from the paleo label (he lost the semantic battle by default, I guess) so maybe you're right: paleo is lost.

This is a shame because the exclusionary heuristic was quite strong philosophically speaking and could generate fairly well defined dietary frameworks for individual contexts. But now that's Archevore and Paleo is... something something.

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:55 AM

Bingo! Very nice.

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:19 AM

People get so twisted up trying to label everything. My point of view is 'paleo' is not a diet, it is a way of life, a lifestyle that incorporates diet, exercise, philosophy, spirituality, everything about how humans live. There is no version 1 or version 2 or low carb or high fat, it just is and it changes as we as individuals and as a culture, experiment and learn about what makes us healthy emotionally, physically and spiritually. We cannot just look at the nutritional aspect of our lives, decide it needs fixing, then fix it and expect everything else to magically fall into place. Everything in this World is interconnected, all life. Small changes in one area of our lives can have great consequences in other, seemingly unrelated, parts. We as human beings are unique in that we can learn from the past and prepare for the future, but we cannot do that isolated or with closed minds. I use the term paleo on this site because people identify with it, but in reality who cares what it is called, or should it even have a label or rules. I try to follow life, based on my ancestor's ways (Native Americans), but applied to a modern world, I do what I consider is best for my little tribe and if I have some knowledge to offer others it is free for the taking. My view of life, health and food has slowly but constantly evolved over my life and will continue to do so until the day I die.

I was told a story by a native elder, when I was very young, he said when one looks at the sky, we see the clouds, the sun, the birds, all that is nature, when the white man stares at the sky he is imagining how he can put a fence around it and sell pieces of it. This is the same for paleo, it cannot be fenced in and packaged up but people will always try.

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:41 AM

Up vote... even though I'm a white guy.

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on June 16, 2011
at 08:44 AM

Agreed Josh. People today are too tuned in to the use of forms of cognitive dissonance to try to categorize their lives into more manageable compartments, instead of seeing the interconnectiveness of the way we are, how we evolved, how we interact as social animals and how the natural and spiritual world mediates our existence. It is a classic quantitative way of viewing things, instead of the Aristotelian "the whole is more than the sum of its parts". Paleo has become an empowering way to recognize the potentail consequences of a lack of awareness of how interconnected our well-being is.

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:18 PM

Paleo has achieved brand integrity. Like Kleenex, Duck Tape, etc. it has achieved name recognition. The problem is that unlike Atkins, South Beach, Zone, whatever, Paleo is not a mathematical formula type of "diet" and maybe that's why people refer to more as a lifestyle rather than a diet. Although for some reason it has sprouted growths like Low Carb, or lacto-Paleo the basic tenets are simple. Eliminate the foods that hurt you based on sound evidence.

The times we live in are filled with constant stimulus, stress is ubiquitous. Personally I try to consume things that mitigate those pressures. I try to read broadly and I incorporate things that I learn from "non-Paleo" (gasp!) arenas as well, but I still consider myself "Paleo" as my goal is to incorporate and eliminate the things that best serve me as a human.

I like your idea that Paleo is a "cluster of diets" - it is. Right now, though, I find it is a bit of a granfalloon.

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on June 15, 2011
at 11:12 PM

My definition is probably very broad, but following a Paleo lifestyle (yes, it is a lifestyle, not a diet) to me means eating meat, vegetables, nuts, seeds, some fruit and no grains, then add in an active lifestyle, enjoy the great outdoors and live a fulfilling life. In addition, having the occasional screw up day is completely fine, because again, we are just human and we all need to enjoy the finer things in life.

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on June 16, 2011
at 09:50 PM

Paleo = no grains, legumes, crappy oils. Any eating plan that follows these three rules is paleo in my book.

MY paleo is low carb, limited dairy, pastured animal product exclusively, mostly organic produce, and daily intake of fermented foods.

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on June 16, 2011
at 10:06 PM

It's a diet that allows for slow electron flow in our respiratory chains and keeps the cellular terroir in a more reduced state.

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on June 17, 2011
at 02:49 PM

Hold the phone...are you serious about the rear quadrant part? I've been looking to maximize that particular fractoid for years!

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on June 17, 2011
at 05:27 PM

Nah, turns out it was reverse backdraft nano technology that appeared as a fractiod due to the quantum synthetic response.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on June 17, 2011
at 06:09 PM

You had me at quantum.

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at 11:29 PM

Get out- is this serious?! holy moly I love these little bits. I believe it also maintains the mainframe equilibrium in such a way that maximally facilitates reverse osmatic cellular apoptosis of the right rear quadrant fractiod. I could be wrong though.

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at 11:14 PM

ummmm...can i reverse backdraft my rear thing-a-ma-jig with a flux capacitor? :-D

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:44 AM

Paleo=avoid grains, legumes, dairy. Simple.

Everybody always of course now says, "well I eat dairy. I like dairy." cool, ok, good for you. I eat cottage cheese now too. Doesn't change the fact that cordain, who started this whole thing, essentially defined paleo in those terms. Just saying.

As a theory or general approach the simplest is simply saying: look at what our robust ancestors ate and use that as a framework to then use science and modern thinking to prove what we should keep and what we should toss aside.

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:35 AM

I was with you until the cottage cheese, Ben. Ewwwww. A bolus of CURDS.

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:36 PM

you people! you have yet to realize the wonderfulness of cottages. I suppose the gastronomic nuance is lost on you;P Yknow, i do eat it to hit that 1.5 grams protein/LB bodyweight, but i'm smiling the whole damn time;)

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on June 16, 2011
at 01:36 AM

I was with you until the cottage cheese, Ben. Ewwwww. A bolus of CURDS. ;)

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on June 16, 2011
at 02:59 AM

When I used to force myself to eat it for the protein, I would make a chocolate protein pudding with cottage cheese, chocolate protein powder, a little bit of vanilla and an immersion blender. Now, that was edible.

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on June 16, 2011
at 02:35 AM

Zing, nice! I know I know, no one likes cottage cheese. I dig on the stuff though. I like that mushy porridge kind of texture. And I like cold things. Sounds weird but hot night in NYC, bit of food before bed and t hits the spot

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:36 AM

Ben, do you eat cottage cheese to feed your ravenous protein appetite? I'm not sure which cottage invented that cheese, but they must have been wack. Lumpy liquidy cheese curds?

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on June 17, 2011
at 04:12 PM

I've been putting off answering this question for a while because I didn't know how to say what I wanted to say. But it looks like Chris Kresser beat me too it, so I'll just copy what he said:

Don’t eat toxins: avoid industrial seed oils, improperly prepared cereal grains and legumes and excess sugar (especially fructose) Nourish your body: emphasize saturated and monounsaturated fat while reducing intake of polyunsaturated fat, favor glucose/starch over fructose, and favor ruminant animal protein and seafood over poultry Eat real food: eat grass-fed, organic meat and wild fish, and local, organic produce when possible. Avoid processed, refined and packaged food.

The full thing is here, and I think is a must read: http://thehealthyskeptic.org/beyond-paleo-moving-from-a-paleo-diet-to-a-paleo-template

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on June 17, 2011
at 05:25 PM

Nice one. I think he sums it up well. Though to be totally honest I'd have to say I think Harris spelled it out very similarly way back with the original panu site.

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on June 16, 2011
at 03:29 AM

The Paleo diet is very serious when it comes to health problems. The diet summarized is eating every ingredient by itself to monitor how your body reacts. Also, it's no grains, no legumes, but eat high fat, meat, veggies, fruit, and do fasting.

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