3

votes

Overeating related to Mineral Deficiencies?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 03, 2012 at 2:28 AM

Does over eating have something to do with a mineral deficiency? I know part of binging behavior has to do usually with a past restrictive diet (for me, my previous fasting behavior)... but I have been making an effort to not restrict calories for weeks and I still find myself binging sometimes. And if I do overeat... it's usually on peanut butter (I know not Paleo) or raw nuts. Or sometimes when nuts aren't around... sad foods. I don't know what to do. I've read that sometimes what you binge on in something your body is lacking in. And I've also read you can crave what you are allergic to. So that didn't help me.

Has anyone discovered that the reason they were binging is because they were lacking a mineral or something in their body? And stopped binging once finding out what that mineral was and supplementing?

I'm having a very hard time getting back on track with my weight, trying to find what works for me, and these binge episodes are not helping.

32be195157f00ad15a933b8bb333dcc4

(379)

on February 05, 2013
at 05:40 AM

Interesting! Thanks for the tip. Just went through some dark chocolate covered almonds :)

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 08, 2012
at 02:11 PM

Yes, it's fine. Aspartate or Glycinate are also fine.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 08, 2012
at 02:10 PM

Sure. Malate or Glycinate are fine. Aspartame, too.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 08, 2012
at 06:06 AM

Hi Dragonfly! Hope you see this, what do you think of using Magnesium malate instead? Apparently it doesn't have a laxative effect like citrate, and my parents are concerned about me taking a "laxative". I did fine with the one tablespoon! But they're if-y about it.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 06, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Start out with ONE tablespoon & see how you do.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 07:03 PM

so i looked up 350 mg and thats seven teaspoons, which is about 2 and 1/4 Tablespoons? Seems like alot but ill try it! Hopefully i don't get an unpleasant trip to the restroom...

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 06, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Try it! Many folk use Natural Calm, which is just powdered Mag Citrate & do just fine.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 06:53 AM

So you think the liquid form is as effective as the gel caps? Sorry for the questions haha thanks!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 06, 2012
at 04:41 AM

Mag citrate has a greater laxative effect than Mag Glycinate, but I don't find it very strong if I keep my dose around 350 mg or so. The brand shouldn't matter.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 03:59 AM

Are those laxatives? Because I bought some Magnesium Citrate from the store and it's in liquid form, but says it's a strong laxative. Did I get the wrong thing? Or does the NOW brand have the same effect?

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 03:59 AM

Are those laxatives? Because I bought some Magnesium Nitrate from the store and it's in liquid form, but says it's a strong laxative. Did I get the wrong thing? Or does the NOW brand have the same effect?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 05, 2012
at 04:01 PM

I use NOW brand Magnesium Citrate gel caps. They seem easily absorbed and are available cheap on Iherb.com

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 05, 2012
at 03:11 AM

What brand should I try? And hmm thanks jake ! Hope that's not the case but ill try the supplement first and see :/

00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

(2411)

on December 03, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Yes, Mg deficiency is a possibility, and it's cheap to experiment with chelated Mg. But be ready for the possibility that your problem might not be Mg intake, but Mg absorption. I'm in that camp. I get about 400 mg of Mg from food and take 400 mg of Mg glycinate + 500 mg. Taurine (synergy there), and I *still* some out low on the Exatest.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 08:21 PM

the above comment says that supplementing with mag citrate might be the key!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 08:20 PM

yah sometimes I do binge when I'm unhappy, other times its like I just can't control it :/

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 08:19 PM

wow! This might be what I need. THANK YOU.

E565e11cf32b38ab1f45086c1e0205f7

(613)

on December 03, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Ditto. Part of how I diagnosed my own magnesium deficiency was realizing that the common thread among all the foods with which I wanted to stuff myself was magnesium. Chocolate, almond butter, sunflower seeds, potatoes, millet, teff... I have much better control of my cravings taking mag citrate nightly.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:16 PM

Pizza is not dairy :-)

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:16 PM

Same here, my cravings are usually for nuts and dark chocolate, which coincidentally (or not) are foods high in magnesium. Supplementing every couple of days got rid of the cravings.

Ba99a15e6bf870b81286791617050593

(671)

on December 03, 2012
at 11:19 AM

Kiefer and others have speculated that dairy can cause a response in the brain similar to cannaboids. Ice cream, perhaps. But pizza and cheese wontons? It's the grains you're bingeing on there.

Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

(3700)

on December 03, 2012
at 09:22 AM

Ice cream is predominantly sugar, and processed dairy that hasn't seen fermentation. Pizza is wheat, which has its own addictive and anti-nutrient effects. I surmise you need to cut these foods out completely, and instead, eat enough meat, fat, and vegetables. Fastest way to satiety. But cutting them out cold turkey and replacing with filling Paleo foods is your first move.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 06:34 AM

stay strong, those of us who struggle with food just need to make trying a daily effort and pray and try to find what nutrient balance we need.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 06:33 AM

I haven't been tested, though I plan to soon. Thank you for your comment though, maybe it is just psychological. I probably need to go to OA myself. Thank you!

  • C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

    asked by

    (753)
  • Views
    6.8K
  • Last Activity
    1432D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

7 Answers

4
Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 03, 2012
at 03:18 AM

Yes. I noticed that after I started supplementing 350 mg of Magnesium Citrate every night, my sugar/chocolate cravings diminished a LOT.

00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

(2411)

on December 03, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Yes, Mg deficiency is a possibility, and it's cheap to experiment with chelated Mg. But be ready for the possibility that your problem might not be Mg intake, but Mg absorption. I'm in that camp. I get about 400 mg of Mg from food and take 400 mg of Mg glycinate + 500 mg. Taurine (synergy there), and I *still* some out low on the Exatest.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:16 PM

Same here, my cravings are usually for nuts and dark chocolate, which coincidentally (or not) are foods high in magnesium. Supplementing every couple of days got rid of the cravings.

E565e11cf32b38ab1f45086c1e0205f7

(613)

on December 03, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Ditto. Part of how I diagnosed my own magnesium deficiency was realizing that the common thread among all the foods with which I wanted to stuff myself was magnesium. Chocolate, almond butter, sunflower seeds, potatoes, millet, teff... I have much better control of my cravings taking mag citrate nightly.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 06, 2012
at 04:41 AM

Mag citrate has a greater laxative effect than Mag Glycinate, but I don't find it very strong if I keep my dose around 350 mg or so. The brand shouldn't matter.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 06:53 AM

So you think the liquid form is as effective as the gel caps? Sorry for the questions haha thanks!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 08:19 PM

wow! This might be what I need. THANK YOU.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 03:59 AM

Are those laxatives? Because I bought some Magnesium Nitrate from the store and it's in liquid form, but says it's a strong laxative. Did I get the wrong thing? Or does the NOW brand have the same effect?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 06, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Try it! Many folk use Natural Calm, which is just powdered Mag Citrate & do just fine.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 05, 2012
at 03:11 AM

What brand should I try? And hmm thanks jake ! Hope that's not the case but ill try the supplement first and see :/

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 08, 2012
at 02:11 PM

Yes, it's fine. Aspartate or Glycinate are also fine.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 07:03 PM

so i looked up 350 mg and thats seven teaspoons, which is about 2 and 1/4 Tablespoons? Seems like alot but ill try it! Hopefully i don't get an unpleasant trip to the restroom...

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 05, 2012
at 04:01 PM

I use NOW brand Magnesium Citrate gel caps. They seem easily absorbed and are available cheap on Iherb.com

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 06, 2012
at 03:59 AM

Are those laxatives? Because I bought some Magnesium Citrate from the store and it's in liquid form, but says it's a strong laxative. Did I get the wrong thing? Or does the NOW brand have the same effect?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 06, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Start out with ONE tablespoon & see how you do.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 08, 2012
at 06:06 AM

Hi Dragonfly! Hope you see this, what do you think of using Magnesium malate instead? Apparently it doesn't have a laxative effect like citrate, and my parents are concerned about me taking a "laxative". I did fine with the one tablespoon! But they're if-y about it.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on December 08, 2012
at 02:10 PM

Sure. Malate or Glycinate are fine. Aspartame, too.

32be195157f00ad15a933b8bb333dcc4

(379)

on February 05, 2013
at 05:40 AM

Interesting! Thanks for the tip. Just went through some dark chocolate covered almonds :)

2
956bcad1d462d433a4e1e22f6e3355d5

(1191)

on December 03, 2012
at 09:14 AM

Everytime I binged is because I lacked happiness and food was my best friend in my youth.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 08:20 PM

yah sometimes I do binge when I'm unhappy, other times its like I just can't control it :/

1
00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

(2411)

on December 03, 2012
at 05:18 AM

Overeating/binge eating can be related to nutritional deficiencies; Julia Ross makes this claim in The Diet Cure (be sure to read the comments, too). Have you tried tracking your food intake in a nutrition app. to see how you're doing in micronutrient intake? Have you done any testing to assess your micronutrient status, e.g. the ExaTest for intracelluar magnesium and potassium status?

If tracking and testing doesn't reveal any frank deficiencies, you need to consider the psychological/emotional/spiritual components of your life. In my own case, there's a strong emotional component to my overeating (nuts are one of my trigger foods, because they're so deliciously fatty and tasty), and I've seen this repeatedly in the rooms of Overeaters Anonymous.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 06:33 AM

I haven't been tested, though I plan to soon. Thank you for your comment though, maybe it is just psychological. I probably need to go to OA myself. Thank you!

1
Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on December 03, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Yep, I used to binge on peanut butter ice cream. Then I learned that peanuts have lectins that don't go away when cooked and that they increase gut permeability and get into the blood stream (specifically peanuts, source Mat Lalonde AHS 2012) and decided not to eat them anymore.

0
Bfd70bb38267fcc2d762063d691fa226

(723)

on February 04, 2013
at 10:47 PM

I absolutely understand where you are coming from!!!!! I am definitely guilty of being a nut-binger. I am happy to share my story with you of how I overcame this. After being VLC for a few months, I had uncontrollable nut/seed/nut butter cravings. I suffered from nut binges for about six months. I then decided to up my carbs from below 50grams per day to between 50 and 100grams per day. This helped immensely. I did not get fat like I feared I would. If anything, it was the nut binges that were making me fat. I actually built some good muscle after upping the carbs! Also, the binges became less and less frequent (they used to happen every night or every other night). Now I can keep nuts and nut butters in the house and not go wild with them. Hope this helps!!!! :)

Directly answering your question, I don't know if it was the minerals or the starch that I was deficient in. It may have been the starch since I am pretty active.

0
194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on December 03, 2012
at 07:19 AM

I have a feeling if I weren't anemic of magnesium-deficient I wouldn't crave nuts so hard. It's like crack. Almond butter, GAH.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 08:21 PM

the above comment says that supplementing with mag citrate might be the key!!

0
3089dd0b9a8f1d24f1b08d6cc3ca84e3

(363)

on December 03, 2012
at 04:23 AM

I am constantly binging on dairy products , no matter how much i try and stay paleo i binge on pizza & ice cream mainly which is predominantly dairy , and then general tso chicken from the chinese and cheese wontons which is also dairy this happens more than often . What could be goin on here can someone please help :(

Ba99a15e6bf870b81286791617050593

(671)

on December 03, 2012
at 11:19 AM

Kiefer and others have speculated that dairy can cause a response in the brain similar to cannaboids. Ice cream, perhaps. But pizza and cheese wontons? It's the grains you're bingeing on there.

Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

(3700)

on December 03, 2012
at 09:22 AM

Ice cream is predominantly sugar, and processed dairy that hasn't seen fermentation. Pizza is wheat, which has its own addictive and anti-nutrient effects. I surmise you need to cut these foods out completely, and instead, eat enough meat, fat, and vegetables. Fastest way to satiety. But cutting them out cold turkey and replacing with filling Paleo foods is your first move.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on December 03, 2012
at 06:34 AM

stay strong, those of us who struggle with food just need to make trying a daily effort and pray and try to find what nutrient balance we need.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:16 PM

Pizza is not dairy :-)

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!