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Any Ideas on Taurine?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 22, 2012 at 2:25 AM

I know this is incredibly un-paleo of me, but I've recently been indulging in those 'Monster' energy drinks (lo-carb of course). Over the last two or three weeks I was transitioning from a 10-12 hours sleep college lifestyle to a 6-7 hours if I'm lucky 40-hour work week lifestyle. Naturally (or unnaturally) I was feeling pretty wiped, so I gave in to temptation.

To my surprise I began noticing improvements in my skin (acne healing quickly and clearing up). I also started feeling more calm than I'd been in a long time, even with the large dose of caffeine. I have muscle-related upper back pain from sitting at desks and computers too much, and even that started diminishing. My clarity of thought has also been amazing since I've started this bad habit. I've drank coffee for years, enough to be more than 2 Monsters easily, and I've never had that feeling from it. All of these improvements were completely unexpected by me; I had no idea that Taurine was involved in so many aspects of health. No placebo effect here.

So I got curious and looked at the ingredients, and there is about 2 grams of Taurine per can in these drinks. I googled Taurine and find other reports similar to mine, so I practically bought stock in Monsters to tide me over until my Taurine powder gets here from Amazon.

Does anyone else supplement Taurine? We are supposed to be able to make enough of it ourselves (unlike cats), but any number of deficiencies can hinder your production. It is also interesting that cooking eliminates most of the Taurine from meat, as cats fed a 'whole foods' diet can get very ill if the meat is cooked. This could possibly be more evidence for a partially raw paleo diet, as queasifying as that is to me (except for sushi, yum).

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 23, 2012
at 11:52 PM

I hadn't thought of that. I was actually thinking the opposite: I'm finally getting more than enough taurine that I didn't have enough of the requisite vitamins/minerals to produce, and the deficiency in taurine is itself the root cause of the acne. I did see positive results a few years ago when taking large doses of zinc, A, C, and E. I guess it could just as well be that the taurine is unrelated to acne save for its use of those nutrients, but that might imply that if I took megadoses I would get clear (not the case).

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 22, 2012
at 04:52 PM

Perhaps Taurine is helping your acne because it is freeing up zinc and Vitamin A that would normally be used for taurine synthesis. Damn, the huan body never ceases to fascinate me.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 03:54 PM

It seems odd that this is not a very well-known problem. The fact that we can synthesize taurine doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't necessary to consume as well. I see no reason for me to notice any benefits if I were making enough in the first place. For SAD dieters who eat little besides cooked meat and starchy carbs I can see how easy it is to become deficient, since vitamins A and zinc are very important in taurine synthesis. It's funny how these are some of the first supplements prescribed for acne sufferers, who are strangely-enough always stressed out...

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 02:05 PM

I have had irregular heartbeat in the past. Not sure whether this has helped or not, but it may very well be doing so. Usually caffeine negatively affects my heart, but not in the energy drinks with taurine. I've read that taurine is very concentrated in heart and skeletal muscles: more so than any other amino acid. It's kind of in its own class of amino acids, as it is different from most of them in that it contains sulfur.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 02:03 PM

I am also taking Magnesium Citrate (Natural Calm unflavored), so maybe they are linked? I've also read that taurine has very important roles in the utilization and transport of ions (Na, Mg, P, etc.) in the body.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 02:01 PM

Taurine supplements are very cheap, so I'd say give it a shot. You can get 100 1g capsules for less than 10 bucks on Amazon. I bought some powder form the other day for like 8 bucks, and at 8 oz it gives me 200 some grams of taurine. Your typical monster (not zero-carb version for some reason) has 1g per serving. A few years ago I was in to meditating, but as time went on I couldn't focus enough to do it no matter how hard I tried. It's odd but true that after an energy drink I feel more able to meditate.

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

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on May 22, 2012
at 12:27 PM

Would be a good idea to do the experiment, because taking supplements if they don't have noticable effects seems kinda waste of money, don't you think? ;)

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on May 22, 2012
at 11:40 AM

what does it do for me? good question, i don't know if it does anything for me! its possible that it may have helped lower my chronically elevated cortisol a while back. but it was just one thing among many that may have helped with that. to find out if Taurine is currently doing anything for me i would need to stop taking it as an experiment, may be a future project when it runs out?

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on May 22, 2012
at 10:03 AM

I also love(d) the feeling of monster drink too, it makes me sharp like a needle, but in a very calm, relaxed, focused way. Drinking only cafeïne (without taurine) makes me sharp but I (still) cannot focus, I start running around doing nothing in particular etc. ;) I might have ADD, they are still doing some tests on me to find out. But with Monster kind of drinks, it makes my life so much easier. So I'm also very interested in if the taurine has a role in it, and what supplementing could do.

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on May 22, 2012
at 09:14 AM

But why and what does it do for you, that's what we want to know ofcourse! :)

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on May 22, 2012
at 02:33 PM

Sadly, if you cook meat to well done, you lose almost all the taurine. This is why rare or raw meats are important. Barring sashimi, and steak-tartare, supplements are a good way to get the stuff, and Taurine is very inexpensive.

It's usually added to cat food since cats are obligate carnivores and require it. But humans need it also, especially if we grew up listening to conventional wisdom and eating meat well done.

I'm all for cooking veggies as it makes their nutrients more accessible, but red muscle meat should be lightly seared. Obviously some cuts of meat need slow roasting to break down connective tissue, or are best suited for a slow cooker, but whenever possible, go rare.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 03:54 PM

It seems odd that this is not a very well-known problem. The fact that we can synthesize taurine doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't necessary to consume as well. I see no reason for me to notice any benefits if I were making enough in the first place. For SAD dieters who eat little besides cooked meat and starchy carbs I can see how easy it is to become deficient, since vitamins A and zinc are very important in taurine synthesis. It's funny how these are some of the first supplements prescribed for acne sufferers, who are strangely-enough always stressed out...

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on May 22, 2012
at 04:52 PM

Perhaps Taurine is helping your acne because it is freeing up zinc and Vitamin A that would normally be used for taurine synthesis. Damn, the huan body never ceases to fascinate me.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 23, 2012
at 11:52 PM

I hadn't thought of that. I was actually thinking the opposite: I'm finally getting more than enough taurine that I didn't have enough of the requisite vitamins/minerals to produce, and the deficiency in taurine is itself the root cause of the acne. I did see positive results a few years ago when taking large doses of zinc, A, C, and E. I guess it could just as well be that the taurine is unrelated to acne save for its use of those nutrients, but that might imply that if I took megadoses I would get clear (not the case).

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on May 22, 2012
at 04:24 AM

Taurine is big for heart function.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 02:05 PM

I have had irregular heartbeat in the past. Not sure whether this has helped or not, but it may very well be doing so. Usually caffeine negatively affects my heart, but not in the energy drinks with taurine. I've read that taurine is very concentrated in heart and skeletal muscles: more so than any other amino acid. It's kind of in its own class of amino acids, as it is different from most of them in that it contains sulfur.

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543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on May 22, 2012
at 04:03 AM

I've been taking Taurine for a while now.

Initially in a Magnesium Complex powder. Then i changed from the Mag complex to another Mag supp & looked at all the other stuff that was in the complex that i would now be missing.
Taurine looked interesting, so i decided to continue with Taurine powder.
I take about 1/2 teaspoon every morning (which is approx 2 to 2.5g).

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on May 22, 2012
at 09:14 AM

But why and what does it do for you, that's what we want to know ofcourse! :)

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on May 22, 2012
at 02:03 PM

I am also taking Magnesium Citrate (Natural Calm unflavored), so maybe they are linked? I've also read that taurine has very important roles in the utilization and transport of ions (Na, Mg, P, etc.) in the body.

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on May 22, 2012
at 12:27 PM

Would be a good idea to do the experiment, because taking supplements if they don't have noticable effects seems kinda waste of money, don't you think? ;)

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on May 22, 2012
at 11:40 AM

what does it do for me? good question, i don't know if it does anything for me! its possible that it may have helped lower my chronically elevated cortisol a while back. but it was just one thing among many that may have helped with that. to find out if Taurine is currently doing anything for me i would need to stop taking it as an experiment, may be a future project when it runs out?

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