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Why do so many people LOVE cheese?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 20, 2011 at 1:39 AM

I wonder why so many of us (people generally, but within the paleo community here, too) have a pretty strong interest in eating cheese.

I know there are details: pastured, pasteurized versus raw, homogenized or not, A1 or A2 proteins, etc. But at the end of thesady people love their cheese.

I was dairy-free since January 1 2011 until about two weeks ago. I started eating cottage cheese to get some more protein me. And well, because it's tasty. Though I realize many would balk at even mentioning cottage cheese when talking about more proper cheeses.

Any opinions about whether it's wise to eat something that seems so hard to not eat? I'm pretty ambivalent these days but I know a lot of people have strong opinions.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on December 26, 2011
at 06:29 AM

and some people might be addicted in varying degrees for completely different reasons. opioid is just one possible reason.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on December 18, 2011
at 03:00 AM

My understanding is that the opiate affect from these peptides only happens in people who incompletely digest the protein casein or gluten (both can cause it). Some people do digest it completely (including some who are allergic or intolerant), and not all people who don't digest it fully are allergic or intolerant--these just aren't good tests for knowing if you will get the opiate effect or not. So yes, some of us are "addicted to wheat and cheese." Some are not . . .

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on June 12, 2011
at 11:02 AM

The best stuff smells of feet, but tastes of delicious.

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on June 12, 2011
at 11:01 AM

3 words: Cheese, Port, Scrabble

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 12, 2011
at 03:12 AM

Same with my kid! She said she cheese has brightened her life :)

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 24, 2011
at 02:48 PM

You've eaten feet? ;)

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 24, 2011
at 02:46 PM

MMmMmMmMMMmmm.....

35a8b223ae5d863f17a8c9e3a8eed5eb

(571)

on May 21, 2011
at 09:40 AM

exactly it's like dessert! I eat cheese daily.

8c2ed9a35f6c4d35a3552a13ddabec8d

(525)

on May 20, 2011
at 07:05 PM

according to loren cordain cheese gives off a similar insulin response to white bread, not sure whether to believe it, but something tells me he's right.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:01 PM

of course! one bottle for you, and one bottle for me. ;)

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on May 20, 2011
at 01:48 PM

Because it's delish!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 20, 2011
at 01:47 PM

The apomorphine effects of casein protein is my belief.....

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 20, 2011
at 01:34 PM

Cool, lots of great answers. Thanks. I think maybe the biggest thing seems to be that its kind of, once one has eliminated a bunch of foods that you used to really dig on, the only "reward" type thing left over. I can dig that. cheers.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 20, 2011
at 01:32 PM

wow, this is a pretty interesting answer. I eat a lot of fermented veg but I think you're totally right: in modern America the only real fermented, complex, funky tastes are usually found in cheese. Good insight.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on May 20, 2011
at 11:04 AM

Definitely true.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on May 20, 2011
at 08:35 AM

If you haven't found "your" cheese between the zillion varieties, god help you :D

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:11 AM

YES. Finally, I am vindicated. My friends don't understand "YOU DON'T LIKE CHEESE???" No, I don't, because it tastes like socks.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:42 AM

Har! Wish I felt that way. Sigh.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:40 AM

Oh, this for sure. The clue for a lot of us is the way we just cannot stop eating the stuff once we start. I mean, there are lots of tasty things out there -- bacon, ribs, liverwurst -- but for me those are self-limiting. Cheese is pure binge. Here's the wikipedia entry on casomorphin, the peptide that casein (cheese goo) breaks down into: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casomorphin

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

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on May 20, 2011
at 02:48 AM

Yep--opioids FTW.

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

(1902)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:48 AM

Yep--opiods FTW.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Does that cheese and fruit platter come with red wine?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:16 AM

Really? I have heard that dairy stimulates something in the brain that is somewhat perhaps similar to drugs, etc. I think I've heard that for wheat, too. Don't know how much I believe that but

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Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:29 AM

i just love it. fancy cheese has always been my weakness, long before paleo. ive never had much of a sweet tooth. for a long time i felt like i couldnt enjoy it because it was arterycloggingsaturatedfat, so the fact that i can indulge in some really nice cheese is just wonderful. ive never been a fan of the fake stuff or anything, and really good cheese is hard to OD on becuse its so rich. its just a wonderful treat. ill take a cheese platter with fresh fruit over dessert any day of the week.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:01 PM

of course! one bottle for you, and one bottle for me. ;)

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Does that cheese and fruit platter come with red wine?

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 24, 2011
at 02:46 PM

MMmMmMmMMMmmm.....

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on June 12, 2011
at 11:01 AM

3 words: Cheese, Port, Scrabble

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05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:06 AM

opioids. X_X :) :)

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:16 AM

Really? I have heard that dairy stimulates something in the brain that is somewhat perhaps similar to drugs, etc. I think I've heard that for wheat, too. Don't know how much I believe that but

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

(1902)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:48 AM

Yep--opioids FTW.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on May 20, 2011
at 11:04 AM

Definitely true.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:40 AM

Oh, this for sure. The clue for a lot of us is the way we just cannot stop eating the stuff once we start. I mean, there are lots of tasty things out there -- bacon, ribs, liverwurst -- but for me those are self-limiting. Cheese is pure binge. Here's the wikipedia entry on casomorphin, the peptide that casein (cheese goo) breaks down into: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casomorphin

Fe6e37f8d4c49de1ecbc926c8900cd54

(1902)

on May 20, 2011
at 02:48 AM

Yep--opiods FTW.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on December 18, 2011
at 03:00 AM

My understanding is that the opiate affect from these peptides only happens in people who incompletely digest the protein casein or gluten (both can cause it). Some people do digest it completely (including some who are allergic or intolerant), and not all people who don't digest it fully are allergic or intolerant--these just aren't good tests for knowing if you will get the opiate effect or not. So yes, some of us are "addicted to wheat and cheese." Some are not . . .

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on December 26, 2011
at 06:29 AM

and some people might be addicted in varying degrees for completely different reasons. opioid is just one possible reason.

3
6a4fd73b4ae4761eefec8e0d38e6f224

(1008)

on May 20, 2011
at 12:24 PM

Eliminating grains and sugar allowed me to realize that I was not, in fact, lactose intolerant. So after 15 years without dairy, I feel like I just got out of jail. You can take my cheese away when you pry it from my cold, dead hand. Now if you'll excuse me, there's a Yodeling Goat waiting for me in the kitchen.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 12, 2011
at 03:12 AM

Same with my kid! She said she cheese has brightened her life :)

3
7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on May 20, 2011
at 02:26 AM

It's creamy and delicious.

I think on Paleo, we don't have much in the way of dessert and cheese can be very rich and almost dessert like.

35a8b223ae5d863f17a8c9e3a8eed5eb

(571)

on May 21, 2011
at 09:40 AM

exactly it's like dessert! I eat cheese daily.

2
B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on June 12, 2011
at 10:51 AM

Summary: It is f'n tasty!

Abstract:
I live in England, but am from the US. When in the US, cheese wasn't a big deal to me. Most commonly melted onto other things. But raw aged cheeses are AMAZING in England and Europe.


Secondary reasons/commentary:
  1. Cheese, Port and Scrabble on my balcony overlooking London!
  2. To ensure this tradition continues: Cheese rolling
  3. Raw aged cheeses are rich in calcium and Vitamin K2, while having little to no lactose.
  4. I mostly eat it as a quick meal or when travelling. Used to eat it at every meal but have calmed down... for now.
  5. Even after giving it up for years and months at a time, I notice no problems from eating it (Northern European heritage according to my traced lineage and DNA analysis).
  6. It is f'n tasty!

2
1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

on June 12, 2011
at 02:47 AM

A: It tastes good.

2
1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on May 20, 2011
at 12:52 PM

It is a source of complex flavors. I don't drink, so I don't have access to a lot of other things with complex flavor profiles from fermenting, but I do have access to cheese and kombuncha and I really enjoy them both. Complex flavors are one of the joys of eating and I am all about loving what I eat.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 20, 2011
at 01:32 PM

wow, this is a pretty interesting answer. I eat a lot of fermented veg but I think you're totally right: in modern America the only real fermented, complex, funky tastes are usually found in cheese. Good insight.

1
949d4d02ea7d1abd714cc3347c2c6854

on June 12, 2011
at 08:26 AM

Not everyone is a fan of cheese. This recent article in Slate Magazine talks about a bunch of Chinese chefs sampling a variety of cheeses, and they were not big fans (cheese is not popular in China). I thought it was interesting to read their descriptions of the flavors, and their general distaste seemed to be rooted in the fact that the texture is creamy and so the strong tastes linger in the mouth and nose.

http://www.slate.com/id/2295196/

That said, I love cheese!

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Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

(4319)

on June 12, 2011
at 05:50 AM

I eat cheese because I am a type II diabetic, as I have cut out all sweet from the diet, cheese tastes so sweet to me. I have a source of delicious cheese made from raw goat milk.

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Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

(4319)

on May 20, 2011
at 06:12 AM

Being a type II diabetic, (controlled without drugs) I have absolutely nothing sweet in my diet and the only carbs I get are from veggies and some occasional nuts, so cheese tastes sweet to me and is like a dessert indulgence.

1
892f9eb3a35eb5b888d256b1287c962d

on May 20, 2011
at 04:32 AM

Some people like bread. I however, love my cheese. It's been the hardest thing to give up. Although...I wonder if your brain releases the same happy hormone with cheese as it does with bread.

8c2ed9a35f6c4d35a3552a13ddabec8d

(525)

on May 20, 2011
at 07:05 PM

according to loren cordain cheese gives off a similar insulin response to white bread, not sure whether to believe it, but something tells me he's right.

1
64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:01 AM

I've just recently started eating a ton of cheese after not having any for years. I discovered that Trader Joe's has a whole bunch (at least 6) of different Raw cheeses. It will probably vary from state to state but I was impressed and just had an amazing spinach/garlic/broccoli omelet with raw cheese grated on top.

1
1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

on May 20, 2011
at 02:08 AM

Beats the hell outta me. I think the stuff tastes like feet.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:42 AM

Har! Wish I felt that way. Sigh.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on May 20, 2011
at 08:35 AM

If you haven't found "your" cheese between the zillion varieties, god help you :D

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:11 AM

YES. Finally, I am vindicated. My friends don't understand "YOU DON'T LIKE CHEESE???" No, I don't, because it tastes like socks.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 24, 2011
at 02:48 PM

You've eaten feet? ;)

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on June 12, 2011
at 11:02 AM

The best stuff smells of feet, but tastes of delicious.

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