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Strict Paleo = Constipation/Diarrhea , Re-introduction to wheat/gluten = abdominal pain

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 16, 2012 at 2:45 AM

It's been a roller coaster ride since I started eating paleo back in November of last year. Mostly down. The good part is that I've lost weight. The bad part is that I've had some sort of GI issue since January.

I just wrote about this last week:

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Last week I thought the reason for my recent stomach pains was that I've been re-introducing occasional wheat into my diet since late March. I had a few weekends the past few months with severe pain in my stomach. While I did notice some severe pain occasionally it was usually a mild discomfort on my right side...about 6 inches to the right of my belly button. During this "re-introduction to wheat" period, I did have more regular bowel movements. Less constipation. Less diarrhea. Things appeared to look normal..but the stomach/side pain was annoying.

Saw a GI doc last week. Took a blood test to see if I may have celiac (which there was a definitive test if the blood test came back positive). Of course my blood was normal, so no celiac.

Came to the conclusion that maybe eating occasional wheat/rice/corn was causing my the abdominal pain. So for the last week I've been strict paleo...even cutting out dairy which I did not consume much anyway.

Stomach pain is pretty much gone..and definitely no severe pain. But now its like flip a coin whether I will be constipated of have diarrhea. This is what I was experiencing off and on Jan - March. I usually feel fine all day until I get home from work. From there its either a normal bowel movement or constipation...then diarrhea at night. After dinner, it sounds and feels like a volcano or thunderstorm going on in my digestive system. I hear rumbling...gurgling..I can feeling liquids sloshing around..and then diarrhea.

I'm trying to determine if I need to completely eliminate dairy, coffee, alcohol, etc.

My GI doc last week just encouraged me to take a fiber supplement daily and I have a follow up in September. From there it will probably be more tests ($$$$$$$) and potentially drugs. I have no confidence anything will be resolved soon.

I know this is diet related somehow. I just need to play health detective to determine what the root cause is.

Here is a list of what I consume (not everything):

Eggs, cheese/half&half, ghee/butter/coconut oil, pickles/kimchi/sauerkraut/kombucha, coffee/water/booze, grass and grain fed beef/chicken/pork/fish, fruit/steamed veggies, avocados, dark chocolate, honey

Multi-vitamin, Omega 3 supplement, pro-biotic, Vitamin D

I have not tried fermented grains, haven't had nuts in weeks, and do not eat too many starchy veggies.

Sorry for the rant! I'm completely stumped and frustrated. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

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on November 06, 2012
at 02:09 AM

Wow! 1,000 views? Well it has been almost 3 months since I asked this question and I have made great improvements. I had a colonoscopy a few weeks ago and everything came back normal (No cancer, crohns, or colitis). I'm still off dairy and I eat some fruit but not much. I've also switched my probiotic up have been working out the past month. In addition, I've made bone broth I think that helped heal my gut. I have 1, occasional 2 BMs a day and its very rarely mushy/diarrhea. Also, my alcohol consumption the past 2 months has been limited. I think I'm on the right path!!

05de181d71c1df6304a03566fe821d4b

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on September 20, 2012
at 06:23 PM

Gluten test have a lot of false negatives, and because you are not celiac does not mean you are not gluten sensitive. Blood test I heard are less reliable , you need to do the stool antigen test which I hear is more accurate, besides gluten products have stuff like lectins and gliadin anyway why introduce these antinutrients to your body?

2f3a02b7ac9e9b566d751e2109da1783

(110)

on September 15, 2012
at 09:03 PM

The first line of my post should read, "Your explanation is just about identical to mine"

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on September 05, 2012
at 02:35 AM

Cutting this one thing out of my diet is simply not easy. I just do not know what is EXACTLY causing me these symptoms. Maybe its just a weird die-off? Maybe its not diet related. Maybe its something more serious. Who knows? Cutting grains is relatively easy..cutting the one (or 2 dozen) things that cause my body to have IBS like symptoms is not when it is a mystery. I'm starting to get the feeling that this is my new normal.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on September 05, 2012
at 02:30 AM

I'm definitely on a trek but probably not the right track. I'm basically at the point where I'm extremely restrictive in my diet and nothing is helping. Maybe I am not strict enough...dedicated enough. I have no idea. Maybe I'll find out I can only eat meat, butter, and carrots. Or perhaps this is just my new "normal".

F6ce9302d62d8b4a1ef2fc813c294770

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on August 22, 2012
at 07:35 PM

I think you're on the right track with eliminating the grains, dairy, coffee, and alcohol. Coffee, alcohol, vinegar and gluten are linked to IBS. And when I first started paleo, I used to eat dairy too. But I feel much better now that I cut that out as well. Eat LOTS of unprocessed fruits and veggies. Over time, this will improve your gut flora.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on August 22, 2012
at 03:47 AM

(fyi those were twins with a diagnosed gluten issue - not random population)

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on August 22, 2012
at 03:46 AM

Not at all. My bad. I didn't mean it to be taken that way. I'm just trying to drive home that messing around with gluten intolerance is a Serious Business. Probably the best thing my nutritionist ever did for me was to stick a European twin study on gluten consumption under my nose. The mortality differences between the gluten eating and the non gluten eating twin weren't funny. You know this is making you sick. In the grand scheme of things, cutting this one thing out of your diet is easy. I'm just here to say please listen to your body, and to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

9426eec8c8385c90bdf843aa44bd5a4b

(200)

on August 21, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Do you eat a lot of kale or spinach? Kale has a lot of fiber and helps moves things along. I try to eat vegetables raw if possible, with more emphasis on dark leaf veg than anything else. It really depends on the vegetable though. When kale is steamed it binds better with bile in your system. Also, farmers give pigs steamed veggies because it would cause them to gain weight, while raw veggies would not. There's also the possibility of a night shade allergy to look into. Some people are sensitive to white potato, bell pepper, tomato, and eggplant.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 21, 2012
at 05:18 AM

Your conclusion is colon cancer? Thanks for the pep talk!

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on August 21, 2012
at 04:38 AM

Great answer. Thinks aren't always black and white!

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on August 16, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Tony, I feel your pain bro... but if eating only meat and eggs + probiotics for the next few weeks makes me poo like a champ, I WILL DO IT. :-)

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 04:08 PM

At this rate I will eventually end up buying 3 things at the grocery store.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:54 PM

The pain/tension is more of the lower right quadrant and very seldom left. There might be a minor tension 6 inches to the right of my belly button. Sometime the tension wraps all way around my back as well. For example..this morning I had a few bananas and 2 cups of coffee. No cream. And it feels like a muscle pull from belly button around the middle of my back. Not pain. Like a tight muscle sensation. Looks like I will be dumping coffee next.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:49 PM

I don't even know what fermented grains are. Someone mentioned it in a previous question I asked.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 16, 2012
at 01:46 PM

Ditch the fruit as well.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 16, 2012
at 01:45 PM

NO FERMENTED GRAINS!!! NO WAY!!! You have autoimmune for sure, forget about grains. No fruit, no nuts, no dairy for you!!!

3502f79e2b38fb5ec60ee20c36b1ec8e

on August 16, 2012
at 12:51 PM

Great! I would add that if you are really concerned with solving this mystery naturally, and feel this really is a dietary issue, then I would get to know FODMAPS intimately and consult someone with expertise in IBS. Chris Kresser has a nice article, as well as a product called "Personal Paleo Code" that claims to help heal the gut and find FODMAPS that don't sit well with you (I'm not affiliated and have not used the product). http://chriskresser.com/fodmaps-could-common-foods-be-harming-your-digestive-health

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 16, 2012
at 12:39 PM

Id did sadly need ABs for awhile to clear the infection.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 12:39 PM

I had some just before I went paleo, and they passed thankfully.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 12:38 PM

Yeah actually thats a good point. If its localised pain in your upper right quandrant (the top right just under your ribcage), then it could be gallstones. Ask your doc to do a liver test when u see him next (gallstones end up showing up in your liver enzymes). Could be they formed before you went paleo (not enough fat to keep things flowing in there), and paleo has kicked it up.

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on August 16, 2012
at 06:52 AM

Fruits may cause troubles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose_malabsorption

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

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on August 16, 2012
at 04:43 AM

Thanks! "Since January"?...I'm not sure. I know I posted something then with similar symptoms that I have now. Constipation, diarrhea, and the feeling like Hurricane Katrina or a major earthquake is happening in my stomach/digestive zone. I'm sure it was before January and maybe it started to really annoy me in January. Also, it comes and goes. Nothing is ever consistent. I could have 3 days where I am normal. In the last week, I have not been normal. 1. I already cut out dairy. Coffee is next. 2. Reg. Doc checked and didn't think I had appendicitis. 3. Good point. 4. Thanks!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 16, 2012
at 04:33 AM

Good luck with your journey to working it out!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 16, 2012
at 04:31 AM

^ It can be kinda technical for digestive problem solving. Its taken me several months to work out what I can and cant eat for my issues, including alot of looking on skipthepie.org and reading up on fodmaps, reading forums etc. Sadly its something doctors are often not much help with, nor something that theres solid science on. The constipation could be related to low carb (more meat, less fibre). Most people find a bit of fruit or some magnesium works there. But the diareha is less common with paleo. That suggests IMO a bacterial dysbiosis. That is really a complicated solve.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Thanks for the advice.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:38 AM

My booze lately has been red wine and clear spirits like vodka. I've also just recently tried Robb Wolf's NorCal Margarita. I do occasional have a beer but not often. I have not had honey in probably 10 days or more. I did not know eating healthy was going to be so technical...

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:17 AM

I've ditched dairy for the past week...no half/half, no milk, no cheese. No difference.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Oh, and cream has lactose which bacteria LOVE. You may want to ditch the cream and use coconut cream instead (or almond milk). Cheese is low lactose, if its hard aged cheese, like ideally 12+ month aged cheddar, and probably parmesan fits into this catergory too.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 16, 2012
at 03:12 AM

^ Or rather avoiding foods _high_ in soluble fiber.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 16, 2012
at 03:11 AM

Insoluble is difficult for bacteria to eat. Soluble is the one everyone harps on about, that may be worth avoiding if youve got digestive issues because bacteria eat it freely.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:09 AM

I'm confused about fiber. My GI doc wants me (and I do) take a fiber supplement. My regular doc suggested it as well. I eat fruit, veggies..but maybe I'm eating the wrong combination of soluble vs insoluble

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Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:24 AM

I would try cutting out the cream (lactose), chocolate (lactose and sugar), and honey (and sugary booze like wine, beer, mixers etc opt for straight transparent spirits instead, like whiskey, tequila or vodka)

Basically everything with sugars in them. (Which probably includes some of your fermented too. You might want to trial a period without them as well as well as without the probiotic, not everyone responds well to probiotics)

Even with major digestive issues you can usually handle two sugars 1) glucose 2) fructose if its in small amounts (ie small portions of lower sugar fruits consumed on there own). This is because glucose is quick absorbed (no digestion), and fructose is also quick, but only under a certain threshold.

Just make sure if you eliminate loads of stuff that you replace the foods so you get good nutrition. Almond milk makes an okay replacement for milk, and its got just as much calcium (for example).

If you get results doing that, check out the sugar and starch content of everything you eat, and read up on fodmaps.

If not, its probably not bacteria. Then I suppose maybe its a food allergy or something else.

But with my digestive issues, your diet would give me total hell, hence my advice.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Thanks for the advice.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:38 AM

My booze lately has been red wine and clear spirits like vodka. I've also just recently tried Robb Wolf's NorCal Margarita. I do occasional have a beer but not often. I have not had honey in probably 10 days or more. I did not know eating healthy was going to be so technical...

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 04:33 AM

Good luck with your journey to working it out!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 04:31 AM

^ It can be kinda technical for digestive problem solving. Its taken me several months to work out what I can and cant eat for my issues, including alot of looking on skipthepie.org and reading up on fodmaps, reading forums etc. Sadly its something doctors are often not much help with, nor something that theres solid science on. The constipation could be related to low carb (more meat, less fibre). Most people find a bit of fruit or some magnesium works there. But the diareha is less common with paleo. That suggests IMO a bacterial dysbiosis. That is really a complicated solve.

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3502f79e2b38fb5ec60ee20c36b1ec8e

on August 16, 2012
at 04:31 AM

Hi Tonytk,

GI questions are almost always confusing and cause as many headaches as stomachaches, so to speak.

My first question back to you is this: you've had GI issues "since January" -- what happened in January? This seems like a very sudden start to GI issues, and if you've not had them before, you might look for what changed at that time.

A few bullet points to consider, but far from a complete answer:

  1. There are things in your diet that are well known to cause constipation. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but alcohol, coffee, and dairy are three of these things. I would do an elimination of one of these for 2-4 weeks to see if any of them are causing the problem.

  2. Did they check for appendicitis? This is often localized at first in the area you describe. Gall stones can also cause similar pain.

  3. Just because the doctor says your celiac tests are "normal" doesn't necessarily mean you don't have a wheat sensitivity that can cause the problems you describe. The only way to know for sure is through an elimination of wheat/gluten/gliadin. And it sounds like when you re-introduced it, the pain came back. It can take 1-3 months to completely rid your body of gluten too.

  4. I highly recommend following up with Jordan and Steve's site at SCDLifestyle.com. They have excellent first-hand knowledge and expert research on the kinds of issues you're dealing with.

Good luck on the journey!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 12:39 PM

I had some just before I went paleo, and they passed thankfully.

3502f79e2b38fb5ec60ee20c36b1ec8e

on August 16, 2012
at 12:51 PM

Great! I would add that if you are really concerned with solving this mystery naturally, and feel this really is a dietary issue, then I would get to know FODMAPS intimately and consult someone with expertise in IBS. Chris Kresser has a nice article, as well as a product called "Personal Paleo Code" that claims to help heal the gut and find FODMAPS that don't sit well with you (I'm not affiliated and have not used the product). http://chriskresser.com/fodmaps-could-common-foods-be-harming-your-digestive-health

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 12:38 PM

Yeah actually thats a good point. If its localised pain in your upper right quandrant (the top right just under your ribcage), then it could be gallstones. Ask your doc to do a liver test when u see him next (gallstones end up showing up in your liver enzymes). Could be they formed before you went paleo (not enough fat to keep things flowing in there), and paleo has kicked it up.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 04:43 AM

Thanks! "Since January"?...I'm not sure. I know I posted something then with similar symptoms that I have now. Constipation, diarrhea, and the feeling like Hurricane Katrina or a major earthquake is happening in my stomach/digestive zone. I'm sure it was before January and maybe it started to really annoy me in January. Also, it comes and goes. Nothing is ever consistent. I could have 3 days where I am normal. In the last week, I have not been normal. 1. I already cut out dairy. Coffee is next. 2. Reg. Doc checked and didn't think I had appendicitis. 3. Good point. 4. Thanks!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 12:39 PM

Id did sadly need ABs for awhile to clear the infection.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:54 PM

The pain/tension is more of the lower right quadrant and very seldom left. There might be a minor tension 6 inches to the right of my belly button. Sometime the tension wraps all way around my back as well. For example..this morning I had a few bananas and 2 cups of coffee. No cream. And it feels like a muscle pull from belly button around the middle of my back. Not pain. Like a tight muscle sensation. Looks like I will be dumping coffee next.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on August 21, 2012
at 04:38 AM

Great answer. Thinks aren't always black and white!

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5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

on August 16, 2012
at 02:57 AM

I'm kind of in your boat. I've lately been trying a new more potent Probiotic "Biokult" and a bit more fermented foods. It's been a bit promising we'll see how it goes.

Have you try to have LESS fiber? It might be feeding the "bad" bacteria in your gut. I've been trying to do a lower carb paleo while my gut flora recoup.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:11 AM

Insoluble is difficult for bacteria to eat. Soluble is the one everyone harps on about, that may be worth avoiding if youve got digestive issues because bacteria eat it freely.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:17 AM

I've ditched dairy for the past week...no half/half, no milk, no cheese. No difference.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Oh, and cream has lactose which bacteria LOVE. You may want to ditch the cream and use coconut cream instead (or almond milk). Cheese is low lactose, if its hard aged cheese, like ideally 12+ month aged cheddar, and probably parmesan fits into this catergory too.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 04:08 PM

At this rate I will eventually end up buying 3 things at the grocery store.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:09 AM

I'm confused about fiber. My GI doc wants me (and I do) take a fiber supplement. My regular doc suggested it as well. I eat fruit, veggies..but maybe I'm eating the wrong combination of soluble vs insoluble

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on August 16, 2012
at 03:12 AM

^ Or rather avoiding foods _high_ in soluble fiber.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 16, 2012
at 01:46 PM

Ditch the fruit as well.

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on August 16, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Tony, I feel your pain bro... but if eating only meat and eggs + probiotics for the next few weeks makes me poo like a champ, I WILL DO IT. :-)

9426eec8c8385c90bdf843aa44bd5a4b

(200)

on August 21, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Do you eat a lot of kale or spinach? Kale has a lot of fiber and helps moves things along. I try to eat vegetables raw if possible, with more emphasis on dark leaf veg than anything else. It really depends on the vegetable though. When kale is steamed it binds better with bile in your system. Also, farmers give pigs steamed veggies because it would cause them to gain weight, while raw veggies would not. There's also the possibility of a night shade allergy to look into. Some people are sensitive to white potato, bell pepper, tomato, and eggplant.

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on September 20, 2012
at 06:11 PM

Sometimes paleo can irritate underlying gut problems. Check out this website, and especially look in the left hand column, near bottom, for FODMAPS, IBS, SIBO, etc. Especially if you are doing everything 100% paleo perfect, and the problems get worse.

http://www.eat-real-food-paleodietitian.com/paleo-diet-and-ibs.html

I had to tweak my diet, and the SIBO protocol worked best for me. No fruit for 30 days let my gut flora get back on track. No onions either - that's a big trigger food for me. I still tend to have a lot of diarrhea when I am strict paleo, but I attribute some of that to the actual fat loss, and the excess waste my body is excreting after metabolizing all that fat! I can't find anyone, anywhere, that says this, but it only makes sense. All that fat doesn't get "burned up." There has to be some waste from cell metabolism.

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on September 16, 2012
at 01:15 PM

I was doing fine on Paleo, I don't poop often but that's always been my body even on SAD then I are fresh cheese with butter and bam I got the runs gurgling and then away it goes (mostly water) first 45 min after consumption and again the next morning. I'd say it is the cheese. Cut it out. BTW: why drink booze? Cut that out as well and be healthier. Fruits are not needed, chocolate and honey should perhaps be regulated to cheat days alone? If you can't totally cut them out (I know woman and their strange chocolate addictions) thank goodness im a man and don't suffer from such weaknesses :)

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C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on September 15, 2012
at 09:32 PM

How much water are you drinking? I had easier poo when I add enough water, usually 70 oz a day.

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2f3a02b7ac9e9b566d751e2109da1783

on September 15, 2012
at 09:02 PM

Your explanation is just about identical to mine, with one major difference; I have been strict PALEO for 38 days, and I started it after a 15 day master cleanse. The master cleanse was 15 days of only water, lemon juice, cayenne pepper, and coconut nectar, no food or beverage at all.

Since starting, I have been eating only grass fed beef, sugar free, nitrate free bacon (not allot), fruit, veggies, lost of carrots, Steves Paleo Kits are a staple, as are the Paleo Crunch Bars. I eat sunflower seeds, raw, and unsalted, and spaghetti squash, as well as lots of water and some almonds.

My gut has been rumbling since almost day one, so I tried a pro-biotic, that just made the diarrhea more predictable. The pro-biotic was seaweed based, and organic, so not fillers, or non paleo ingredients.

I have not cheated one time, so zero wheat, zero dairy, zero cornstarch, or syrup, or any additives, only pure clean food, yet I feel like crap almost all the time.

I do feel it’s a balance thing, but cant figure out what it is. I have tried knocking out the almonds, the pro-biotic, and went days without tree nuts, yet its the same. For only 2 of the last 38 days, I had constipation, otherwise, I just plain feel like crap. It cant be this uncomfortable to be Paleo.

I read everywhere, every post, answer, theory and the like, yet no one really comes out and says, when you go on Paleo, you ........, so be aware. Maybe that statement does not exist, but I need some help bad.

Thank you.

2f3a02b7ac9e9b566d751e2109da1783

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on September 15, 2012
at 09:03 PM

The first line of my post should read, "Your explanation is just about identical to mine"

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D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on August 21, 2012
at 04:34 AM

Colon cancer, dude. If your body is not meant to be eating gluten, knock it off, and figure out another way to poop. People who are gluten intolerant don't realize that cheating may very well take years off their lives. It sounds like you have a cranky, autoimmune-ish sort of gut like me and many others. Eat clean, eat your probiotics, sleep well, drink water, and if you have to, do a REAL elimination diet. None of this "it's been a week" stuff. A week is nothin', especially if you've got multiple variables going on. Do it the right way so that you can do it once. Do you have a good, modern, paleo friendly nutritionist in your area? Identify what your likely allergens/irritants are, cut them 110%, and then methodically reintroduce them.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on August 22, 2012
at 03:46 AM

Not at all. My bad. I didn't mean it to be taken that way. I'm just trying to drive home that messing around with gluten intolerance is a Serious Business. Probably the best thing my nutritionist ever did for me was to stick a European twin study on gluten consumption under my nose. The mortality differences between the gluten eating and the non gluten eating twin weren't funny. You know this is making you sick. In the grand scheme of things, cutting this one thing out of your diet is easy. I'm just here to say please listen to your body, and to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

(108)

on August 21, 2012
at 05:18 AM

Your conclusion is colon cancer? Thanks for the pep talk!

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on August 22, 2012
at 03:47 AM

(fyi those were twins with a diagnosed gluten issue - not random population)

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on September 05, 2012
at 02:35 AM

Cutting this one thing out of my diet is simply not easy. I just do not know what is EXACTLY causing me these symptoms. Maybe its just a weird die-off? Maybe its not diet related. Maybe its something more serious. Who knows? Cutting grains is relatively easy..cutting the one (or 2 dozen) things that cause my body to have IBS like symptoms is not when it is a mystery. I'm starting to get the feeling that this is my new normal.

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8aaf45dcdbc21a2144df0006180fe60e

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on August 21, 2012
at 02:30 AM

Not really an answer...just a few more observations.

  1. I'm only having these issues Monday through Friday for some reason. At my apartment.

  2. I'm only having the constipation/diarrhea issues in the evening (7pm - 11pm). The problems don't generally last 4 hours, just a time frame when these things occur.

  3. Friday night/Saturday/Sunday I drank more alcohol and ate bad food (chips...oops). But my crazy digestive problems were not present. I did have the hangover (I don't really have severe hangovers) poop..hard to explain but a lot of movement but not diarrhea. And not constipation either. Saturday night I only had a few drinks (unlike Friday) and Sunday's I was generally fine. No severe pain and no constipation/diarrhea.

  4. Cooked pork chops in coconut oil tonight (Monday) and I had a diarrhea after. Constipation before dinner.

  5. Dill pickles (Bubbies Brand) seem to make my stomach make a lot of noise after eating.

  6. Hardly any dairy the past week. No fruit.

Not sure if I can make any conclusions to any of this.

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on August 20, 2012
at 05:48 AM

I use Bidet4me MB-2000 to help my personal hygiene problem.
It works great and I use it every single day.

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