1

votes

seems strange to eat dairy, no?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 05, 2013 at 6:50 PM

hi, interested to know why people consume dairy whilst undertaking a paleo lifestyle when - during paleo times - we were pretty much definitely not milking wild game? seems strange to me, i have cut out dairy as it makes me feel terrible.

let me know your thoughts! thanks, j

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 06, 2013
at 01:45 PM

Geez man, umm not everyone who says dairy is okay for some people is a dairy farmer.. Lol. There are certain risks and benefits from different dairy products, raw grassfed, yogurt milk cheese. You can't just say that all milk products are necessarily detrimental to all people in any amount and that anyone who says different is some sort of profiteer. That's irresponsible to say about dairy. Dairy might not be optimal for most people but that doesn't mean it's not optimal for some or pretty good for others. Take your ranting somewhere else..

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on January 06, 2013
at 02:13 AM

Based on my opinion. IMHO, if one has no sensitivities to a food item and that food item is not vile then I don't believe in preaching abstention from eating forever. Yes, there are MUCH better foods out there. But modest and selective dairy consumption shouldn't cause lasting damage. If others respectfully disagree, great.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 06, 2013
at 01:15 AM

Exactly, Michelle!

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on January 06, 2013
at 12:49 AM

Not "paleolithic" but the Comanches, a hunter-gatherer tribe, were known to slash the udders of the bison they killed and drink the raw milk still warm mixed with the blood. I'm not convinced a people that depended so much on a single animal to provide the most food possible would ignore the milk.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 10:39 PM

1 serving per day based on what?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 10:39 PM

Not all of it is. I only buy raw dairy.

05ce60d425d69bf47002fe66287931d0

(187)

on January 05, 2013
at 09:42 PM

do you have a link to the other thread? searched to no avail

B72e976b2df9e7f01315830062a5209c

(1365)

on January 05, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Although I avoid dairy, I avoid grains much more meticulously. Agree wholeheartedly with this answer though; everyone is different so if your body likes dairy, have some dairy.

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:15 PM

Search is your friend, my dear. This is not the first time this has been discussed here.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:14 PM

If Grok killed a lactating mammal, do you think he would have ignored it?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:58 PM

A lot of the foods from supermarkets wouldn't have been available to our Palaeolithic ancestors. We've done so much selective breeding for the biggest, brightest and plumpest not to mention GMO and pre-gmo subjugating seeds to radiation and looking for beneficial mutations (not sure the name of that one). This isn't to say that any food is superior/inferior to any other food, just that, while looking at diet from a paleo, eat whole food approach is good for most people, there are probably still new food sources that are okay/beneficial along with the harmful ones.

05ce60d425d69bf47002fe66287931d0

(187)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:42 PM

i'm not into reenactment either, but there is a difference from sourcing food from non-paleo sources such as supermarkets and actually consuming/introducing foods our ancestors wouldn't have eaten, right?

05ce60d425d69bf47002fe66287931d0

(187)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:06 PM

thats the essence of paleo i guess, everyone has a personal adaptation

  • 05ce60d425d69bf47002fe66287931d0

    asked by

    (187)
  • Views
    1.2K
  • Last Activity
    1404D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

10 Answers

7
61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:18 PM

Raw, grass-fed dairy, both fresh and fermented, is part of the regular diet in my household. It tastes great, has lots of nutrition, and none of us have adverse reactions to it.

People during paleolithic times also did not purchase their food from grocers or farmers, so how are you getting your food? I'm not into reenactment, just nutritionally dense, healthy foods.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:14 PM

If Grok killed a lactating mammal, do you think he would have ignored it?

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on January 06, 2013
at 12:49 AM

Not "paleolithic" but the Comanches, a hunter-gatherer tribe, were known to slash the udders of the bison they killed and drink the raw milk still warm mixed with the blood. I'm not convinced a people that depended so much on a single animal to provide the most food possible would ignore the milk.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:58 PM

A lot of the foods from supermarkets wouldn't have been available to our Palaeolithic ancestors. We've done so much selective breeding for the biggest, brightest and plumpest not to mention GMO and pre-gmo subjugating seeds to radiation and looking for beneficial mutations (not sure the name of that one). This isn't to say that any food is superior/inferior to any other food, just that, while looking at diet from a paleo, eat whole food approach is good for most people, there are probably still new food sources that are okay/beneficial along with the harmful ones.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 06, 2013
at 01:15 AM

Exactly, Michelle!

05ce60d425d69bf47002fe66287931d0

(187)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:42 PM

i'm not into reenactment either, but there is a difference from sourcing food from non-paleo sources such as supermarkets and actually consuming/introducing foods our ancestors wouldn't have eaten, right?

4
78d089bc8d5feaed2710005e4456edbe

on January 05, 2013
at 07:45 PM

I don't know much about it, but, to me, there's a great difference between milk and grains(/seeds). Milk has evolved to be nutritious (at least for baby mammals), whereas grains and seeds seem to have evolved towards being bad things to eat (at least without proper preparation).

B72e976b2df9e7f01315830062a5209c

(1365)

on January 05, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Although I avoid dairy, I avoid grains much more meticulously. Agree wholeheartedly with this answer though; everyone is different so if your body likes dairy, have some dairy.

2
Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:03 PM

Mmm , milk, cheese and butter. Strange'? Maybe. Unhealthy? Maybe, maybe not. Until that debate is settled, I'll do what's optimal FOR ME, which atm, includes milk and cheese tyvm.

Remember, just because a food supply is relatively new doesn't make it detrimental.

05ce60d425d69bf47002fe66287931d0

(187)

on January 05, 2013
at 07:06 PM

thats the essence of paleo i guess, everyone has a personal adaptation

1
75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on January 05, 2013
at 09:52 PM

Although I haven't consumed dairy in years (..it triggers my psoriasis) I think the nutritional content of dairy, especially yogurt, is such that it merits modest consumption ... in my opinion. Modest consumption = 1 serving per day. Restraint is the key. The typical SAD eater consumes far too much dairy, and often the dairy has been heavily processed.

_Lazza

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 10:39 PM

1 serving per day based on what?

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on January 06, 2013
at 02:13 AM

Based on my opinion. IMHO, if one has no sensitivities to a food item and that food item is not vile then I don't believe in preaching abstention from eating forever. Yes, there are MUCH better foods out there. But modest and selective dairy consumption shouldn't cause lasting damage. If others respectfully disagree, great.

1
089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:22 PM

i have been thinking about adding dairy to my paleo diet. i am going to make SCD yogurt this week to see how i do. i am either lactose/casein intolerant but not sure which one affects me yet... so i will experiment with the SCD lactose free yogurt. if i react to it, then i know it is casein that i am allergic to. i always get swollen lips and ears when i eat dairy.

0
C6032b723b12cf0073ec6d22c5f4e7ae

on May 22, 2013
at 04:38 PM

I think the primary concern with dairy is that it's inflammatory and allergenic and not, therefore, beneficial for people who are looking to heal gut problems. I can't handle any dairy aside from ghee, which is basically free from the main allergens, and a bit of goat yogurt from a good local farm.

0
Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

on January 06, 2013
at 12:53 PM

Some people might eat it because they don't react to it like you do, while, for whatever reason, not finding it 'strange' to do so. I also agree with those who have made points about what 'paleo' eating not being about 'reanctment'. This is also where, as has been said lately, other tags such as 'ancestral', 'real foods' etc might be better in framing things as they do don't as readily have connotations about reenacting what people in caves did.

0
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 06, 2013
at 02:42 AM

Dairy is NOT paleo. No way you slice it. A bunch of fat loser soccer mom and beta males have turned paleo into a "sort of too hard so let's make it easier" diet. If you go by what people say on this site you'll end up looking like a deflated bag of shit.

The results come from NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO diary. That means butter, milk, cows, elephant etc. NO dairy is no dairy.

Don't listen to the hack idiots on this page. Got to the source- REAL paleo does not include dairy. This site is run by shills who shill diary products like bulletproof crap etc. Paleo is simple- meat, fruit, veggie, nuts. I don't see dairy and grains there.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 06, 2013
at 01:45 PM

Geez man, umm not everyone who says dairy is okay for some people is a dairy farmer.. Lol. There are certain risks and benefits from different dairy products, raw grassfed, yogurt milk cheese. You can't just say that all milk products are necessarily detrimental to all people in any amount and that anyone who says different is some sort of profiteer. That's irresponsible to say about dairy. Dairy might not be optimal for most people but that doesn't mean it's not optimal for some or pretty good for others. Take your ranting somewhere else..

0
Bbae431256192d2c57ba2a2122d12cd3

(84)

on January 05, 2013
at 09:12 PM

during paleo times we didn't use computers.... so?

But, nowadays milk is not that good, it's pasteurized

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on January 05, 2013
at 10:39 PM

Not all of it is. I only buy raw dairy.

0
35deaf0f101526bb113ea69f79934f2b

(436)

on January 05, 2013
at 06:58 PM

I agree.

I do eat some dairy because it is so super delicious. I keep a dessert like attitude towards it though and would not want it to be a daily part of my diet.

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!