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Milk & Yogurt: Paleo or Nay?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 05, 2011 at 5:00 PM

What are your thoughts on high-fat dairy products? I'm currently eating a lot of Greek yogurt (almost daily) as well as occasional milk and cheese; should I eliminate these things from my diet temporarily, then reincorporate them to test my tolerance?

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on February 12, 2012
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Great article! Thanks for the link!

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on December 06, 2011
at 07:26 PM

I actually enjoy the morning routine of refreshing and bottling, and of course you can do the routine at the time it's most convenient for you. I love the fact that I have 100% control of the flavor based on the type of sugar and fruit I choose. It's hard to believe it's good for me.

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on December 06, 2011
at 07:25 PM

I actually enjoy the morning routine of refreshing and bottling. I love the fact that I have 100% control of the flavor based on the type of sugar and fruit I choose. It's hard to believe it's good for me.

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on December 06, 2011
at 03:00 AM

Thanks for the links Nance- it looks like something I'd like to try.

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on December 05, 2011
at 08:10 PM

Great, that's what I thought. Thanks Nance.

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on December 05, 2011
at 06:42 PM

My kitchen is pretty warm as I live in southern NV. If you have a cooler kitchen, each fermentation can take 1-2 days but my 1st is 14-24 hrs and the second is only about 10 hours then it goes in the fridge.

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on December 05, 2011
at 06:40 PM

It's incredibly simple, BUT you need to be comfortable with having to work-with/refresh your brewing process every morning. In a nutshell, you have to make a new feeding solution for your culture, you need to strain yesterday's brew, mix in whatever flavoring you want (usually juice and the sugar will be consumed) and bottle the new mixture for a second fermentation. Here's a link I like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-t9C7PoBRc and a nice set of basic instructions: http://starfire-studio.com/kefirbycarys.pdf

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on December 05, 2011
at 06:20 PM

Hey Nance, how do you make water kefir? I have heard of coconut water kefir, but I have seen water kefir mentioned here and there and am very curious!

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on December 05, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Dairy is Primal, not Paleo.

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on December 05, 2011
at 05:30 PM

what are your goals? better over all health? weight loss? healing of some sort?

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on February 05, 2012
at 09:02 PM

I personally like high-fat dairy in my diet. Because of my celiac disease, I was supplementing probiotics to try to heal, when in fact I could get the same cultures from Greek yogurt. So I think it's worth considering including something if it has things in it that you need for optimum health.

Dairy is not strictly paleo (more "primal"), but as I see it, if our ancestors would have eaten beef of some kind of bovine creature, or eaten goat, they may have had dairy. The full fat Greek yogurt is a good source of fat, a moderate source of proteins, and in general makes some people feel good. i find I get a lot of energy, and it is good for a lighter meal earlier in the day.

All of that said, I found that cutting out other dairy products was also helpful. Milk practically gone, and cheeses I eat only on occasion. I've also found some brands of yogurt give me really bad abdominal pain, so I avoid it. You need to do what works for you. If eliminating all dairy works, then great. Do what you need to for a healthy gut, whether or not that includes dairy-based probiotics.

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on February 05, 2012
at 09:25 PM

I think many of us here eat dairy. If you have no digestive issues with dairy then it should be ok to eat. Dairy is very nutritious.

Fellow member Dr Cate wrote this piece on dairy:

http://drcate.com/is-dairy-paleo-revising-history-with-new-persectives-on-flocks-of-goats-femur-bones-and-feckless-nutritionism/

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on February 12, 2012
at 05:01 PM

Great article! Thanks for the link!

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on December 05, 2011
at 05:17 PM

If, and only if, you are having unexplained digestive or chronic sinus/joint, etc., issues would you need to test the dairy foods you're eating. And if you are feeling terrific, with lots of energy, it still wouldn't hurt anything to check it out but you'd think of it as a fun experiment.

I used to have a lot of trouble with dairy. It would cause trouble by not tasting good and then causing an upset stomach, etc. But recently I started making/drinking water kefir and--lo and behold--now I happily chow down on a cup of yogurt every morning.

It's clear to me that I didn't have the right gut flora to handle dairy and now I do, presumably thanks to the kefir.

So, in addition to testing your tolerance, you might consider eating/drinking probiotics if you aren't already.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on December 05, 2011
at 06:20 PM

Hey Nance, how do you make water kefir? I have heard of coconut water kefir, but I have seen water kefir mentioned here and there and am very curious!

2db7df180a680f63671e8b315ec3d468

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on December 05, 2011
at 08:10 PM

Great, that's what I thought. Thanks Nance.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 06, 2011
at 07:25 PM

I actually enjoy the morning routine of refreshing and bottling. I love the fact that I have 100% control of the flavor based on the type of sugar and fruit I choose. It's hard to believe it's good for me.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 06, 2011
at 07:26 PM

I actually enjoy the morning routine of refreshing and bottling, and of course you can do the routine at the time it's most convenient for you. I love the fact that I have 100% control of the flavor based on the type of sugar and fruit I choose. It's hard to believe it's good for me.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 05, 2011
at 06:42 PM

My kitchen is pretty warm as I live in southern NV. If you have a cooler kitchen, each fermentation can take 1-2 days but my 1st is 14-24 hrs and the second is only about 10 hours then it goes in the fridge.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 05, 2011
at 06:40 PM

It's incredibly simple, BUT you need to be comfortable with having to work-with/refresh your brewing process every morning. In a nutshell, you have to make a new feeding solution for your culture, you need to strain yesterday's brew, mix in whatever flavoring you want (usually juice and the sugar will be consumed) and bottle the new mixture for a second fermentation. Here's a link I like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-t9C7PoBRc and a nice set of basic instructions: http://starfire-studio.com/kefirbycarys.pdf

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 06, 2011
at 03:00 AM

Thanks for the links Nance- it looks like something I'd like to try.

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