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Leaky Gut, Legumes, Dairy

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 04, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Are fermented beans except soy, fermented lentils, goat whey and goat butter good enough to eat for one who is afraid of leaky gut ? What are bad for a leaky gut in your opinion ? Does it include nightshades(I have joint pain from nightshades so I don't eat them, I also found black/green/white tea cause me some lesser joint pain, so I stopped drinking them) ?

I have passive schizophrenia, allergic conjunctivitis, allergic rhinitis, allergies to dust mites and something, some depression sometimes. I'm afraid to have leaky gut. I've not been eating cow milk and gluten(When I ate some gluten after not eating a long time it gave me serious digestive pain) for years(except very little cow butter accidentally more than a year ago, cow milk causes me some auditory hallucinations). After having some strangeness hard to describe after eating some goat casein cheese after not eating a serious amount of A2 casein for some time, I decided to limiting my dairy intake to A2(sheep or goat) butter and whey or nothing in the future. I've read gluten, milk(cow(A1) milk at one place), soy, corn are worst things that make you have a leaky gut and beans are next. I've decided to limiting my bean intake to fermented beans except soy, or nothing. I also decided not to eat peanuts as I think peanut and beans may really be bad for my gut.

I guess it's casein that is bad for leaky gut in milk and as I read somewhere it may be cow milk that is bad for leaky guts, therefore I think little goat butter and goat whey(actually a cheese made from goat whey and salt, called lor in Turkey) shall not harm. What do you think about goat butter and goat whey and leaky gut ? Are peanuts in paleo diet ? Are peanuts bad for a leaky gut ? Can fermented beans be bad for leaky gut ? Are lentils bad for leaky gut ? What about fermented lentils(I guess I can ferment them with natto culture) ? What about other legumes such as snow peas and carob ? I guess the capsule of the beans are not bad but the bean inside such as locust beans in carobs is bad for leaky gut, what do you think ?

Please answer any question you have an answer to. To read about A2-A1 milk you can read Devil In The Milk by Keith Woodford.

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on April 06, 2013
at 09:53 AM

Those hallucinations increase in volume in following weeks after having some sort of cow milk(must be casein related) and last a long time. A day ago I took a painkiller after months and it gave me some pain(must be from small intestine), I think I will use injectable painkillers for some time.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on April 06, 2013
at 09:03 AM

Those hallucinations increase in volume in following weeks and last a long time, must be due to cow milk. A day ago I took a painkiller and it gave me some pain(must be from small intestine)

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

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on April 06, 2013
at 08:52 AM

Those hallucinations last a long time, must be from cow milk. A day ago I took a painkiller and it gave me some pain(must be from small intestine).

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

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on April 06, 2013
at 08:50 AM

I think I should not introduce gluten back because of schizophrenia. I take very little wine usually, probably not more than a tablespoon a day, waited with some herbs such as rhodiola, gingko, tribulus, nettle, gotu kola,... I've supplemented enough vitamin D until a month ago and now I often sunbathe at least 10 minutes a day. I usually eat a tablespoon flax and some fish and keep a good omega 3/6 ratio. I sometimes eat eggs with no problem. Now stress is not a problem to me. Sleep is not a problem. Currently I do not get additives.

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on April 20, 2013
at 08:02 AM

Fermented casein A2 dairy gives me no problems. Peanuts are problematic, but fermented lentils weren't for me.

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on April 04, 2013
at 09:27 AM

I'm currently paying attention to the whole A1-A2 casein stuff, until now I thought casein was a pretty good protein (typical bodybuilder common wisdom) but from time to time I have observed some weird feelings after eating some aged cheeses, like feeling blue and cold and having sudden insane cravings for more, also sometimes when I take Whey Protein I feel strange thereafter, so now I'm keeping serious attention in these in order to find out some patterns.

For now, I've seen that goat and sheep do not cause any issue with me, I've feta cheese in salads very often at night and it's the moment of the day when I feel more awesome. I also have some kefir from time to time from either goat, sheep or cow without any issues, also cottage cheese. With the kefir, it's usually organic so the quality and source may have something to do.

As for milk, I used skimmed and lactose free in the past with some success, now I don't drink it because I prefer to get my calories from solid dairy or other sources.

Regarding peanuts, the overall common take on the paleo scene is that is loaded with lectins and aflatoxines along with omega-6 PUFAs and that it would be safer to keep it aside. If you're into the nuts a lot, macadamias, hazelnuts and cashews should provide a nice substitute that has way better nutritional profile.

As for lentils, I do not have them anymore but from time to time I buy them sprouted (as well as alfalfa and radish sprouts). In the sprouting process the lectins and carbs are used to generate proteins for the growth of the plant and this is supposed to make them more apt for consume than it's seed form.

Just some random thoughts for some of your questions, hope it may help.

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on April 06, 2013
at 04:57 AM

Peanuts are beans and are not paleo because of the lectin content.I had leaky gut and could trace my symptoms to lots of foods but beans never gave me any adverse reaction.

Note: Leaky gut is curable to the extent that people can reintroduce dairy and eat small amounts of gluten, nightshades and eggs without any symptoms. If you say you are off gluten for years and still have symptoms there is something wrong. Your dietary/livestyle changes might be incomplete and cause gut not healing, review your position on

  • alcohol
  • vitamin D
  • PUFAs
  • eggs
  • stress reduction
  • sleep
  • food and supplement additives

Re auditory hallucinations: That is a very interesting symptom that complements to other gluten related symptoms like tinnitus, nasal congestion, ear infections, lupus like butterfly rash on face which all are happening in the area of trigeminal nerve that is directly connected to vagus nerve which controls release of inflammatory cytokines.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on April 06, 2013
at 08:50 AM

I think I should not introduce gluten back because of schizophrenia. I take very little wine usually, probably not more than a tablespoon a day, waited with some herbs such as rhodiola, gingko, tribulus, nettle, gotu kola,... I've supplemented enough vitamin D until a month ago and now I often sunbathe at least 10 minutes a day. I usually eat a tablespoon flax and some fish and keep a good omega 3/6 ratio. I sometimes eat eggs with no problem. Now stress is not a problem to me. Sleep is not a problem. Currently I do not get additives.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on April 06, 2013
at 09:53 AM

Those hallucinations increase in volume in following weeks after having some sort of cow milk(must be casein related) and last a long time. A day ago I took a painkiller after months and it gave me some pain(must be from small intestine), I think I will use injectable painkillers for some time.

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on April 06, 2013
at 09:03 AM

Those hallucinations increase in volume in following weeks and last a long time, must be due to cow milk. A day ago I took a painkiller and it gave me some pain(must be from small intestine)

47cbd166d262925037bc6f9a9265eb20

(55)

on April 06, 2013
at 08:52 AM

Those hallucinations last a long time, must be from cow milk. A day ago I took a painkiller and it gave me some pain(must be from small intestine).

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