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Heavy whipping cream?

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Created February 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Hi, I am new to paleo and I have been having a cup of heavy whipping cream in the morning and I love it. I am not ever hungry, I read that heavy whipping cream had no insulin effect and so I sort of went crazy with it. Is this way too much fat? I could drink this all day long.

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on May 13, 2012
at 07:10 PM

I love cream in my coffee, but I am careful with how much I use. Too much dairy fat and I lose definition.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on May 13, 2012
at 07:09 PM

@ PaleoGran- women probably eat more dairy fat than men because it is more important for women to have high body fat levels for fertility reasons. Guys don't need to have fat stores for fertility, and probably make better hunters carrying less of it around.

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on May 13, 2012
at 05:46 PM

There is a point were eating too many calories will cause weight gain in a portion of society. Liquid calories can allow you to go higher in calories.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on July 21, 2011
at 07:49 AM

Was it just cream ? No other additives, stabilizators, etc ? I find if I drink a whole cup (240ml), I sometimes start sneezing or get some weird feeling in my head, slighty uncomfortable.

Fff58a1fd1e29d93fd6a25d3fdebbade

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on July 20, 2011
at 10:39 PM

Yet many would feel the term is unnecessarily pedantic..

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on July 20, 2011
at 08:43 PM

Well duh, Durandal. We all need retinol. But the question is, is exceeding your retinol by about 10 times your RDA good for you? I do it - from heavy cream consumption mostly - and I feel good. But I worry sometimes.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on July 20, 2011
at 08:42 PM

Is exceeding your retinol by about 8 times your RDA good for you? I do it - with heavy cream mostly - but I worry sometimes. Doesn't excessive A consumption crowd out D to some degree?

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on January 22, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Ideally, you'd freeze for ~25 minutes with an ice cream maker. If you don't have one, just place in freezer and make a point to stir every ~15 minutes or so until it starts to set. You can also add a few nuts just as it sets and stir in if you'd like (or, better yet, add a little melted butter when you make it, and then add pecans as it starts to set to make butter pecan).

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on January 22, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Very easy. A basic rich vanilla ice cream is: 3 cups cream, 3 raw eggs, 2 tsp vanilla extract and 3/4 cups sugar (with paleo ice cream, you leave out the last two ingredients; you might also add another egg). To make ice cream, whisk eggs and sugar together, then whisk in ice cream and vanilla extract, and then freeze.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on January 16, 2011
at 08:08 AM

How do you make this paleo ice cream? Is it possible without an ice cream maker? I have played with making ice cream before with mixed (not good) results.

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on January 16, 2011
at 12:50 AM

I could be wrong but I think he was asking is there a limit to how much he should consume daily. I also kind of wonder.. input anyone?

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

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on January 15, 2011
at 11:37 PM

Love your username. :)

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on January 15, 2011
at 06:47 PM

The idea behind "liquid calories" being fattening is that they satisfy thirst more than hunger, so that may indeed be the cause of your weight gain.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on January 15, 2011
at 06:37 PM

Agreed. This is my only problem with heavy cream. If I'm not careful I end up getting a lot of "empty calories" from it. That said, it's a very economical source of calories.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on January 15, 2011
at 12:52 PM

I apologize for the error. That should be "helped so many of us".

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on January 15, 2011
at 12:51 PM

I reakon most people would gain weight if they drank 2500 calories of cream on top of their usual food.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on January 15, 2011
at 12:51 PM

(I do eat butter and spoonfuls of beef fat, as well as my cream.) I have been reading about various pastoral tribes. In some of the reports, there is mention made that the women eat more dairy than the men, and that the men eat more eat. If I can find the articles again, I will post links. I don't always bookmark things I read. Please do have a look at Dr. Kurt Harris' site. His recommendations have helps so many of us. Sending you best wishes. :)

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on January 15, 2011
at 12:45 PM

Stacy, I agree with Robert. There is nothing wrong with drinking the cream. Some beef, egg yolks especially, wild Salmon,and chicken or beef liver on that plan, with a few herbs or vegetables, if you eat plants, will give you well rounded nourishment. It is merely the propaganda we've heard for a long time that can make us feel guilty about drinking or eating cream. I eat cream every day. I'd have to eat butter or spoonfuls of beef fat to get enough fat, if I didn't have the cream. And I like cream. Have you read Dr. Kurt Harris' 12 steps yet? http://www.paleonu.com/get-started/ ...

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on February 20, 2010
at 07:37 PM

Paleo Dave, The prefix "lacto-" is derived from latin, and it means "milk." It does not refer specifically to sugar. In fact, the word "lactose" is probably much newer than "lacto." "Lactose" is formed from the prefix "lacto-" plus the suffix "-ose" (sugar), so "lactose" is literally "milk sugar." The consumption of any dairy product, not just lactose-containing dairy products, can make one "lacto-paleo." Mr. Grok is etymologically correct here. Cheers,

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on February 18, 2010
at 11:15 PM

I disagree with classifying a heavy cream drinker as 'lacto-paleo' for the simple reason that heavy cream has only trace levels of lactose remaining. Milk, lacto-paleo -- heavy cream and butter, not lacto-paleo.

60b0d3e60670f645cca59f67710b4820

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on February 18, 2010
at 10:26 PM

CLA and vitamin A are good for you

E258d3ab9815cad55f90ae462b85c1cf

(362)

on February 18, 2010
at 02:46 PM

Good points about not focusing on calories. I was not trying to advocate calorie counting, but sometimes it is good to be aware of the caloric density of the foods we eat. The link I posted does offer up detailed nutrition information including complete fat and protein breakdown.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on February 18, 2010
at 08:57 AM

I've found yoghurt uniquely addictive too! I wonder if it's the fact that dairy protein is especially insulinemic. I've thought that maybe relatively strong insulin response would produce more (entirely short term) impact from the food, as the calories are rapidly are forced into cells (ditto grains). If it's dairy in general, it could be all the opiates from casein. Certainly the texture is very "palatable" though, perhaps it's not surprising that easily consumed/digested calories have an appeal.

B694ff94abba729b4d1568fc12ff3285

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on February 18, 2010
at 08:44 AM

The "calories in/calories out" principle is based on wrong science i'd say. Have days that i eat over 4k calories (I'm not that big), so long as its fat and protein, you will likely stay at your ideal weight.

14aa918d730371ed14f8e7e7d6eb6587

(373)

on February 18, 2010
at 07:04 AM

Yes, coconut milk / yogurt / almond butter are so binge-inducing. What starts out as a small bowl of whole milk yogurt usualy ends with me eating the whole tub. Maybe it has something to do with the texture?

48d73cb880d957ebc147d658f21c0318

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on February 18, 2010
at 05:28 AM

Don't forget, you do need some protein, and cream is essentially all fat. But if you do get your needed protein in a few eggs and some beef, say, I don't see anything wrong with drinking cream for the rest of your daily fuel.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on February 18, 2010
at 01:07 AM

I disagreed with the down vote on this answer, so I voted it up.

Afddfbaee3b84c20b38fc6d0d079dd4b

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on February 18, 2010
at 01:02 AM

Thanks for all your kind answers. I am trim at 5'5" and 123lbs and I have always been into nutrition. I don't like to be hungry and I have to say, I eat mostly out of habit due to all the fat in the cream. I ordered the Taubes book and I hope I can get everything together to get the right nutrients. Does anyone have other suggestions as far as VLC cook books?

Afddfbaee3b84c20b38fc6d0d079dd4b

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on February 17, 2010
at 11:51 PM

Yes, I have been drinking this for weeks and weeks and I haven't gained a pound. I guess it's obvious why I'm not hungry.

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5cd18bfcafadc56292971e59f2f1faf6

on February 18, 2010
at 12:37 AM

Some people feel that dairy of any kind is not paleo. While this is certainly technically true (dairy is a neolithic invention), cream is the result of separating the fats from the carb & protein content and the remaining fat breakdown is similar to that from other animal sources (and arguable a little better in some regards). This question discusses this issue with regard to butter.

The calories probably aren't a concern for you if you are eating the same or fewer calories overall (as what you've said seems to indicate). However, I'd be concerned about the vitamin content from consuming a large portion of your daily calories in the form of cream. Take a look at the nutrient balance for heavy cream versus a nice cut of beef. The fat content is similar but beef blows away cream in terms of nutrients.

For me, heavy cream is a regular addition to my diet. I use it for making sauces and for occasional drinking, usually in the form of a smoothie. It's one of those things that's great in moderation but over doing it could be harmful in the long run due to the nutrient issue.

Afddfbaee3b84c20b38fc6d0d079dd4b

(60)

on February 18, 2010
at 01:02 AM

Thanks for all your kind answers. I am trim at 5'5" and 123lbs and I have always been into nutrition. I don't like to be hungry and I have to say, I eat mostly out of habit due to all the fat in the cream. I ordered the Taubes book and I hope I can get everything together to get the right nutrients. Does anyone have other suggestions as far as VLC cook books?

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Cc93847bfa820f0f2da654060b401fa5

(746)

on February 18, 2010
at 04:29 AM

Not paleo. You are lacto-paleo, or some would say primal. I am also lacto-paleo.

Just be careful... heavy cream is like crack! I could drink a gallon in a sitting. Add anything coconut (especially coconut milk), greek yogurt and butter to the crack list also.

Super easy to rack up lots of calories and pack on fat if your carb count is too high.

14aa918d730371ed14f8e7e7d6eb6587

(373)

on February 18, 2010
at 07:04 AM

Yes, coconut milk / yogurt / almond butter are so binge-inducing. What starts out as a small bowl of whole milk yogurt usualy ends with me eating the whole tub. Maybe it has something to do with the texture?

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on February 20, 2010
at 07:37 PM

Paleo Dave, The prefix "lacto-" is derived from latin, and it means "milk." It does not refer specifically to sugar. In fact, the word "lactose" is probably much newer than "lacto." "Lactose" is formed from the prefix "lacto-" plus the suffix "-ose" (sugar), so "lactose" is literally "milk sugar." The consumption of any dairy product, not just lactose-containing dairy products, can make one "lacto-paleo." Mr. Grok is etymologically correct here. Cheers,

5cd18bfcafadc56292971e59f2f1faf6

(2475)

on February 18, 2010
at 11:15 PM

I disagree with classifying a heavy cream drinker as 'lacto-paleo' for the simple reason that heavy cream has only trace levels of lactose remaining. Milk, lacto-paleo -- heavy cream and butter, not lacto-paleo.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 18, 2010
at 08:57 AM

I've found yoghurt uniquely addictive too! I wonder if it's the fact that dairy protein is especially insulinemic. I've thought that maybe relatively strong insulin response would produce more (entirely short term) impact from the food, as the calories are rapidly are forced into cells (ditto grains). If it's dairy in general, it could be all the opiates from casein. Certainly the texture is very "palatable" though, perhaps it's not surprising that easily consumed/digested calories have an appeal.

Fff58a1fd1e29d93fd6a25d3fdebbade

(400)

on July 20, 2011
at 10:39 PM

Yet many would feel the term is unnecessarily pedantic..

5
693b4a92133c19c288277dae8b43ab69

on February 18, 2010
at 12:21 AM

Yes! Isn't this fantastic? I started drinking cream after reading about Peter (of HyperLipid)'s diet. Here's the post that got me started:

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/search/label/What%20do%20I%20eat%3F%20%281%29

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Fa47fe5368e66325865f60a928609145

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on February 18, 2010
at 10:55 AM

I'd think twice about anything that's addictive to you.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on January 15, 2011
at 06:37 PM

Agreed. This is my only problem with heavy cream. If I'm not careful I end up getting a lot of "empty calories" from it. That said, it's a very economical source of calories.

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E258d3ab9815cad55f90ae462b85c1cf

on February 17, 2010
at 11:47 PM

I don't know about too much fat, but you may want to be careful about calories. If you really mean a cup of heavy cream you are talking about 821 calories. LINK

Afddfbaee3b84c20b38fc6d0d079dd4b

(60)

on February 17, 2010
at 11:51 PM

Yes, I have been drinking this for weeks and weeks and I haven't gained a pound. I guess it's obvious why I'm not hungry.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on February 18, 2010
at 01:07 AM

I disagreed with the down vote on this answer, so I voted it up.

E258d3ab9815cad55f90ae462b85c1cf

(362)

on February 18, 2010
at 02:46 PM

Good points about not focusing on calories. I was not trying to advocate calorie counting, but sometimes it is good to be aware of the caloric density of the foods we eat. The link I posted does offer up detailed nutrition information including complete fat and protein breakdown.

B694ff94abba729b4d1568fc12ff3285

(169)

on February 18, 2010
at 08:44 AM

The "calories in/calories out" principle is based on wrong science i'd say. Have days that i eat over 4k calories (I'm not that big), so long as its fat and protein, you will likely stay at your ideal weight.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on May 13, 2012
at 05:46 PM

There is a point were eating too many calories will cause weight gain in a portion of society. Liquid calories can allow you to go higher in calories.

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9205855633f4d88fd78339aad4fc54ff

on January 15, 2011
at 11:49 AM

I read that dairy has a higher insulin effect than the carb content would suggest. The strange thing is that personally I put on weight even with heavy cream (that has little protein content too).

I mean at least if I drink quite a bit of it. Making huge coffees (mostly decaf, and of course without sugar nor any kind of sweetener) I usually can/could put even 150-200 ml in each. So somedays I ended consuming something like 500ml of heavy cream. And I don't feel bad/sick at all (for what it matters I didn't feel bad when I drank big quantities of industrialized milk either).

I wasn't afraid of the calories (after reading Taubes and others). But unfortunately I had to surrender to the evidence that big amounts of cream make me gain fat. Even if I still don't understand why (again: little lactose and protein). Is it because they are "liquid calories"? I'd appreciate suggestions.

So besides abstaining from cheese (soft, I don't like hard cheese anyway) and milk, the two who are usually blamed, I have to limit butter and cream just to cook/garnish with (obviously in that way I can't reach such big amounts as when I drink it, so it's unlikely to make me gain weight)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on January 15, 2011
at 12:51 PM

I reakon most people would gain weight if they drank 2500 calories of cream on top of their usual food.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on January 15, 2011
at 06:47 PM

The idea behind "liquid calories" being fattening is that they satisfy thirst more than hunger, so that may indeed be the cause of your weight gain.

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on January 15, 2011
at 11:37 PM

Love your username. :)

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D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on January 15, 2011
at 11:15 PM

Cream is of course a tasty source of healthy fat; enjoy it daily, but I personally recommend doing so in moderation.

Cream is very rich, and you do not want it to crowd out your consumption of fatty animal meats, which should be the foundation of your diet.

I eat and enjoy cream myself. Try some paleo ice cream: 3 eggs, 2 cups cream, 1 stick butter and a handful of crushed pecans (butter pecan, my personal favorite). You might also try adding some unrefined coconut oil or coconut milk instead of the stick of butter (coconut cream, my second favorite).

Enjoy!!

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on January 16, 2011
at 08:08 AM

How do you make this paleo ice cream? Is it possible without an ice cream maker? I have played with making ice cream before with mixed (not good) results.

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on January 22, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Ideally, you'd freeze for ~25 minutes with an ice cream maker. If you don't have one, just place in freezer and make a point to stir every ~15 minutes or so until it starts to set. You can also add a few nuts just as it sets and stir in if you'd like (or, better yet, add a little melted butter when you make it, and then add pecans as it starts to set to make butter pecan).

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on January 22, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Very easy. A basic rich vanilla ice cream is: 3 cups cream, 3 raw eggs, 2 tsp vanilla extract and 3/4 cups sugar (with paleo ice cream, you leave out the last two ingredients; you might also add another egg). To make ice cream, whisk eggs and sugar together, then whisk in ice cream and vanilla extract, and then freeze.

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5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on May 12, 2010
at 02:48 AM

I love to shake together a couple of eggs with my cream. Sometimes the whole egg, sometimes just the yolks, (keep the whites for an omelette later) makes a lovely creamy post workout drink.

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5ebeec76e20738d0a17cd724d64b1e0f

on March 02, 2010
at 02:38 AM

I subscribe to the PaNu version of Paleo. Even though dairy isn't considered "orthodox" Paleo, my experience has been that without it, it can be difficult to maintain enough fat intake.

One approach is to look at your total fat as a percentage of calories, which seems to be much more important than total calories. If it's in the range of roughly 65% to 80%, you're probably fine. If it gets above 80%, then just cut back on the cream a bit (I mix mine with raw milk, to make half-and-half).

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Eadf826a9e475669ab372bbc8014e4b5

on May 13, 2012
at 05:38 PM

8oz Heavy Whipping Cream, 4oz water, 2 teaspoons unsweetened cocoa powder, 2 grams stevia, blender = yummy! And you will be satiated for hours.

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on January 10, 2012
at 08:52 PM

I add 8 tablespoons to my whey protein shake 2x per day. 600 calories 50 grams protein 40 grams of fat..tastes awesome. I am a strength athlete who desires to keep my weight under control and stay as lean as possible due to my age (39) Gone are the days of an all out assault on carbs. I follow the anabolic diet, which is basically related to the paleo, but with carb loads on weekends, of which i use sparingly. I look at it as more of a cheat weekend mostly consuming hamburgers etc.

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26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

on July 20, 2011
at 08:44 PM

I eat/drink heavy cream in and with everything, like it's going out of style. It gives me the extra calorie boost I need (I'm too thin, active, and 'cardio' is a part of my daily life that isn't going anywhere - I bike to work, walk my dogs, work on my feet) and it's delicious.

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on July 20, 2011
at 04:59 PM

Anybody have problems with the casomorphines in cream? I poured a perfectly good quart down the drain when it put me to sleep one evening, and I remembered the research regarding how the opiate effect can do that... I love heavy cream. Apparently I just need to moderate how much I consume!!! I only ate 3T., I'll try again. The ice cream recipes are calling my name!!

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on July 21, 2011
at 07:49 AM

Was it just cream ? No other additives, stabilizators, etc ? I find if I drink a whole cup (240ml), I sometimes start sneezing or get some weird feeling in my head, slighty uncomfortable.

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on February 18, 2010
at 03:10 AM

I use a lot of heavy whipping cream. I limit myself to avoid getting too much vitamin A and too much ruminant trans fat (CLA and vaccenic acid). Both are great to get in moderate amounts, but both can be overdone. I still have about 400 calories per day from dairy (mostly butter and heavy whipping cream).

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on February 18, 2010
at 10:26 PM

CLA and vitamin A are good for you

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on July 20, 2011
at 08:43 PM

Well duh, Durandal. We all need retinol. But the question is, is exceeding your retinol by about 10 times your RDA good for you? I do it - from heavy cream consumption mostly - and I feel good. But I worry sometimes.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on July 20, 2011
at 08:42 PM

Is exceeding your retinol by about 8 times your RDA good for you? I do it - with heavy cream mostly - but I worry sometimes. Doesn't excessive A consumption crowd out D to some degree?

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