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dozen eggs vs gallon of milk a day

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Created February 28, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Trying to gain lean body mass/weight. Anyone try dozen eggs a day?

I don't seem to have enough time to eat tons of meat everyday consistently. Was thinking about preparing a whole bunch of eggs instead. I tried the gallon of milk for a few days, but that was a miserable experience, and I'd prefer to spend my money on whole foods as opposed to whey protein shakes.

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on May 26, 2011
at 02:10 PM

You do not need to spike your insulin levels through the roof for muscle gain. High GI carbs after training only, otherwise they are a waste. Slow carbs (if you must) at other times, take chromium polynicotinate with them. Heavy Cream + Whey and casein protein mixed and you can do GOMAD WITHOUT the lactose carbs, and eat the dozen eggs a day too. Still going to find it hard to hit 4-5Kcals per day though. 1 pint heavy cream - 1600kcals, 12 eggs, 1000kcals, whey/casein 600kcals or so, still going to need to eat say some chicken or some grass fed beef to get near 4000kcals.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

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on March 01, 2011
at 06:33 PM

NOW Foods enzymes, as Robb Wolf and others have recommended elsewhere. My coach told me to add them, and I did. More info here: http://paleohacks.com/questions/12131/how-to-know-if-need-digestive-enzymes-hydrochloric-acid#axzz1FNGEum5n and here: http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/27/Maximize_Your_Progress_with_Hydrochloric_Acid.aspx

D05728a0613658cb5b2f652eb6f36783

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on March 01, 2011
at 03:46 PM

not sure about bf%, 32 in waist, 47 in shoulder width. slightly visible abs.

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on February 28, 2011
at 11:39 PM

ps - If you are trying to gain lean mass and not working out/squatting, you are probably just adding fat. Unless you were very underweight to begin with and coming off some vegan diet or something.

D5db204527668aa712504995c0f8f96f

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on February 28, 2011
at 10:10 PM

(I'm sure you know it... just saying that the low carbs approach to weigth gain is not efficient at all)

D5db204527668aa712504995c0f8f96f

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on February 28, 2011
at 10:08 PM

Stephen : carbs = up insulin, high insulin = anabolism + fat gain + glycogen replenishement. Carbs are a must for rapid muscle gain.

D05e94d3fa7fbf32eb56445ad932f654

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:44 PM

Hi Jae, what kind of digestive enzymes do you use? How did you decide it was something you wanted to try?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:38 PM

Carbs are not required for gain, that's more uninformed conventional wisdom. Protein+fat can work too.

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:06 PM

This fellow said *lean* body mass. I'm assuming he's already eating starch elsewhere.

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:01 PM

P.S. whole eggs, not just whites or yolks

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on February 28, 2011
at 08:28 PM

The carbs are important for weight gain.

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77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

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on February 28, 2011
at 08:18 PM

I've tried a dozen eggs a day. It's easy, but not nearly enough calories unless you are eating a lot of other stuff anyway. I think 12 eggs = less than 1,000 kcals.

1 gallon milk is more like 2,500 kcals.

I had trouble gaining weight until I added digestive enzymes to my regimen. After that, I gained about 15 lbs. fairly easily, while taking in no more than 4,000-4,500 calories daily.

I don't tolerate dairy well, so GOMAD was out of the question. Lots of beef and a can of coconut milk daily can help.

D05e94d3fa7fbf32eb56445ad932f654

(773)

on February 28, 2011
at 09:44 PM

Hi Jae, what kind of digestive enzymes do you use? How did you decide it was something you wanted to try?

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on March 01, 2011
at 06:33 PM

NOW Foods enzymes, as Robb Wolf and others have recommended elsewhere. My coach told me to add them, and I did. More info here: http://paleohacks.com/questions/12131/how-to-know-if-need-digestive-enzymes-hydrochloric-acid#axzz1FNGEum5n and here: http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/27/Maximize_Your_Progress_with_Hydrochloric_Acid.aspx

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Cb2415c2aef964ab499a09dc92ae7e01

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on February 28, 2011
at 11:37 PM

As noted above, this is not a fair comparison.

12 large eggs = 924 calories, 75 g protein, 63 g fat, 6 g carb. Figures can vary slightly.

1 gallon whole milk = 2335 calories, 125 g protein, 127 g fat, 176 g carb. You say you were miserable. While I realize many people have problems with dairy/lactose, still if you ate 2335 calories worth of eggs - that's 30 eggs! - you might be miserable also.

Regardless, my main point is that this doesn't have to an either/or situation. If you are trying to gain lean mass ie muscle I assume you are lifting weights especially squatting which increases growth hormone. In that environment milk is a potentially useful tool, but that doesn't mean you have to do a whole gallon per day. You can just have 2+ cups after workout and maybe even another 1-2 later. 4 cups of milk adds 575 calories and is pretty easy to do. Of course you can have eggs also. An extra egg meal or fatty snack of some kind will be another 500 cals and you should gain on an extra 600-1000+ cals per day.

A side note - this year started doing barbell workouts, and when I began squatting (not on machine, using free weight) I really started craving milk! Not protein powder, not cheese, not cream, not butter... milk! This was strange to me as I have been mostly dairy free for a year. But I'm going with it and so far so good. In fact strength gains are taking off.

Cb2415c2aef964ab499a09dc92ae7e01

(783)

on February 28, 2011
at 11:39 PM

ps - If you are trying to gain lean mass and not working out/squatting, you are probably just adding fat. Unless you were very underweight to begin with and coming off some vegan diet or something.

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on February 28, 2011
at 08:07 PM

Likely better off removing the whites from some of those eggs and/or drinking heavy cream instead of milk. A pint of heavy cream is something like 1600 calories, by the way.

Medium avatar

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:06 PM

This fellow said *lean* body mass. I'm assuming he's already eating starch elsewhere.

D5db204527668aa712504995c0f8f96f

(551)

on February 28, 2011
at 10:08 PM

Stephen : carbs = up insulin, high insulin = anabolism + fat gain + glycogen replenishement. Carbs are a must for rapid muscle gain.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on February 28, 2011
at 09:38 PM

Carbs are not required for gain, that's more uninformed conventional wisdom. Protein+fat can work too.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on February 28, 2011
at 08:28 PM

The carbs are important for weight gain.

D5db204527668aa712504995c0f8f96f

(551)

on February 28, 2011
at 10:10 PM

(I'm sure you know it... just saying that the low carbs approach to weigth gain is not efficient at all)

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

(6719)

on May 26, 2011
at 02:10 PM

You do not need to spike your insulin levels through the roof for muscle gain. High GI carbs after training only, otherwise they are a waste. Slow carbs (if you must) at other times, take chromium polynicotinate with them. Heavy Cream + Whey and casein protein mixed and you can do GOMAD WITHOUT the lactose carbs, and eat the dozen eggs a day too. Still going to find it hard to hit 4-5Kcals per day though. 1 pint heavy cream - 1600kcals, 12 eggs, 1000kcals, whey/casein 600kcals or so, still going to need to eat say some chicken or some grass fed beef to get near 4000kcals.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:00 PM

I eat 7-9 eggs a day though it doesn't effect my weight. It does give me a good source of a lot of protein obviously. I usually eat 5 raw in a smoothie and then scramble 3 alongside some ground beef.

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on February 28, 2011
at 09:01 PM

P.S. whole eggs, not just whites or yolks

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 01, 2011
at 01:17 AM

"Trying to gain lean body mass" - what is your BF%? i guess, that it would make more sense (from an appearance point of view) to get rid of fat first (go below some 10 %), and think about bulking up later

D05728a0613658cb5b2f652eb6f36783

(125)

on March 01, 2011
at 03:46 PM

not sure about bf%, 32 in waist, 47 in shoulder width. slightly visible abs.

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