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Dairy being insulinogenic - What and how often?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 09, 2013 at 4:43 AM

What dairy products do you take? And how often?

I don't get what it means by moderation...

Edited to add: Thanks for all the replies... Did a bit more of reading on it and realized my question should have been more specific

I have PCOS without IR. But studies show that even normal level insulin can trigger greater testosterone generation in the ovaries in such case. Now, dairy is mostly taken as insulinogenic. Any thoughts?

I have been Paleo since 1.5 months and taking dairy on and off without any immediate significant change - what I should be doing to see if it gels well? Going Paleo did show significant improvement in my cycles though

Long before going Paleo, I had given up dairy for a year and also reintroduced it without any issue at all. 5-6 months down the lane, my PCOS went worse - but there were many other bad guys in the scene that time like stress, low sun exposure, mostly sedentary. So, cant point out dairy alone...

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on March 09, 2013
at 01:56 PM

Ghee is still a dairy product... not sure what you mean here Myth...

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on March 09, 2013
at 05:41 AM

Do you mean ghee instead of butter? Butter is still a dairy product.

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on March 09, 2013
at 07:01 AM

Experiment on yourself -- the only way to know. Your body is different from everyone else's.

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on March 09, 2013
at 05:29 AM

Mark has a good guide regarding which kind of dairy, and when, and for whom exactly: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy-intolerance/

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on March 09, 2013
at 07:36 AM

Depends on the person. My body reacts badly to milk and since I gave it up I have stopped having all those colds with a running nose. It was as if a tap were turned off after decades of suffering. Not everyone is the same. I had lots of cheese yesterday (200g) and never feel good for that. I do have a bit of butter on some vegetables which does not seem to be a problem.

We are the only animals which drink milk once we are weaned from our mothers and given the impact of dairy on me even though I am not from a country where there tends to be dairy tolerance problems/genes means I feel quite happy only rarely having dairy. I think you need to test its impact on you and then decide.

I generally say to people if it's a choice of your children drinking colas or milk milk is going to be best. However best of all is water.

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on March 09, 2013
at 08:14 AM

What - organic, grassfed, high-fat, non processed, ideally fermented, ideally non-pasteurised, ideally sheep or goat or camel When - 1-3 times a week, depending on how well you handle it

I eat goat yoghurt, goat cheese and sometimes camel milk keffir

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on March 09, 2013
at 03:46 PM

I eat a lot of dairy. I sometimes struggle with eating enough calories, so whole milk with added heavy cream is an easy way to get calories, with a lot of fat and a little protein and carbs, down the hatch. I have cream and milk everyday, butter and cheese a few times a week, and occasionally yogurt.

If weight loss is a goal, dairy foods tend to be very calorie-dense, so just be mindful of that. If you aren't lactose intolerant or allergic to casein or whatever, I see no reason not to have it.

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on March 09, 2013
at 03:24 PM

I regularly consume raw cow's milk, cream, cheeses, and Kerrygold butter. I make yoghurt, sour cream and kefir. No one in my household has issues with dairy, so it is a staple. One meal each day usually contains some dairy. I can't stand goat anything, but will occasionally have sheep's milk cheese around.

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on March 09, 2013
at 05:26 AM

No Dairy Products and Never - UNLESS it's grass-fed & grass-finished.

If you cannot stomach lactose though, it's NOT recommended that you eat ANY dairy what-so-ever. Instead you can supplement with coconut milk, butter, oil, etc.

9d142ffae34c518722ea67d4cfb89a19

on March 09, 2013
at 01:56 PM

Ghee is still a dairy product... not sure what you mean here Myth...

582e89904fef55ad5c7dac673653ef8c

(281)

on March 09, 2013
at 05:41 AM

Do you mean ghee instead of butter? Butter is still a dairy product.

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on March 09, 2013
at 05:18 AM

What exactly are you reading where it says moderation? Some Paleo people support it, some don't. It all depends, are you allergic to milk? Are you worried about casein? Do you have a health reason for adding dairy? How does YOUR body react to it? Some things you need to decide for yourself, this "diet" isn't really set in stone.

Personally, I am lactose intolerant and always have been. I removed milk from my diet over 12 years ago. I use Kerrygold butter occasionally with no problems and I can infrequently have aged cheese.

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