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Why hate on crossfit

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Created July 03, 2012 at 5:46 PM

I've been doing crossfit for almost five months now. I've definitely improved in my endurance and strength and leaned out a bit despite having a fairly crappy diet. Went paleo almost immediately, but was inconsistent about it and my nonpaleo days were extremely unpaleo, and become more and more frequent. Started a Whole 30 on Sunday so hopefully that will finally get me on track.

Prior to crossfit I had been training for a half-marathon (not really a runner, but it's easy and what everyone I know does...). Was sidelined by a series of illnesses and for about 3 months became the ultimate couch potato. Decided it was time to do something and running clearly wasn't it. Crossfit had always been on my radar, so I jumped in.

My question is why do so many people dislike crossfit? I fell in love with it pretty quickly and have come to base my day to day activities around it. It's the first time in my life I actually enjoy having exercise in my daily routine.

58a46496b84d6686df23c7ef01ea14dc

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on July 04, 2012
at 04:59 PM

Okay, you can find examples and that is great. But you really can't lump all crossfit gyms in together. The programming at my gym comes nowhere near that. Very unfortunate that you have had such a bad experience.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on July 04, 2012
at 04:47 AM

Interesting commentary from Robb Wolfe which echoes some of my concerns about crossfit. But, he gripes about other people always wanting to be the "guru" yet he wants to be the guru. Some of his bitterness seems out of spite.

E2123e1da4ccbe211c9cbd82356fe4bc

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on July 04, 2012
at 04:14 AM

+1 for the mental image of a backflipping Jesus.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on July 04, 2012
at 03:03 AM

My crossfit gym also allows people to come and go as they please and attend whichever met con or lifting class they want. They provide guidance and suggestions if you want it, and not if you don't. Different gyms and trainers have different attitudes.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 04, 2012
at 02:59 AM

^^^ This was mentioned elsewhere. When you are pushing yourself to failure while doing lifts that weren't meant to be endurance lifts, you are guaranteed to have terrible, dangerous lifts.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 04, 2012
at 02:58 AM

While all exercise can create injury, Geier sees more injuries with CrossFit because of the high-speed, high-impact approach. Certain exercises implemented by CrossFit (Olympic lifts, specifically) are meant to be done in moderation. But CrossFit preaches pushing to the edge of every set, every rep, until there’s nothing left in the tank. And while training to muscular failure is notoriously debatable, one thing is certain: Regularly pushing your body to failure can lead to serious health risks, like rhabdomyolysis.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 04, 2012
at 02:58 AM

"Uncle Rhabdo represents a character in the CrossFit community and is short for rhabdomyolysis, a kidney condition most commonly induced by excessive exercise... The haunting image of Uncle Rhabdo is a cartoon of a blue-haired-red-nosed clown with face paint, panting from exhaustion with organs and blood spilling from its body, a set of weights in the background...Some in CrossFit use these clowns as a humorous way to prove that they’ve worked hard...“I do give them a little sticker [if they puke],” says Hollis Molloy, a trainer at CrossFit...

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on July 04, 2012
at 01:53 AM

Jesus Backflipping Christ Dan, Do you think I advocate the other extreme? "Oh, he dislikes Crossfit, he must want people to just sit on a couch!"

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 03, 2012
at 11:18 PM

What you answered is precisely why it's NOT "good for a novice person trying to start on a fitness program." Good exercise for a novice/beginner would be something along the lines of bodyrock.tv workouts, which are fully customizable to your own abilities.

6371f0ae0c075ded1b8cd30aafd4bf16

on July 03, 2012
at 09:56 PM

Crossfit didn't create the misguided idiot. I've seen those same people killing themselves at the globo gym running 20 miles on the treadmill daily, trying to eliminate that last pound of fat. We need people to be more educated about health and fitness altogether and so far Crossfit is doing a good job of spreading the word. Would you rather have them sitting on the couch developing metabolic derangement sucking driving up our healthcare costs.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 03, 2012
at 09:32 PM

PS: I love when I get to push someone over to the 10pt mark! Congrats on the new badge :)

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 03, 2012
at 09:31 PM

Agree with what you state about "bad" boxes. Mine is amazing as well, very upporting and nurturing. Multiple coaches on the floor at all times, we're in for an hour with a good warmup, form critiques, strength training (we have 4 days a week), METCON, adjustments and scaling for anyone who needs or requests it, et al. As a former swimmer, competing at a national level, I've never had such caring coaching or been involved in a better community, or been in better shape. I'm strong, fast, happy and healthy - that's all that counts, right? :)

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 03, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Agree with what you state about "bad" boxes. Mine is amazing. Supporting and nurturing, and in my experience quite unusual compared to others. Multiple coaches on the floor at all times, we're in for an hour with a good warmup, form critiques, strength training (we have 4 days a week), METCON, adjustments and scaling for anyone who needs or requests it, et al. As a former swimmer, competing at a national level, I've never had such caring coaching or been involved in a better community, or been in better shape.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 03, 2012
at 09:12 PM

What you answered is precisely why it's NOT "good for a novice person trying to start on a fitness program."

58a46496b84d6686df23c7ef01ea14dc

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on July 03, 2012
at 08:13 PM

and where does it say that it promotes injury?

0a6376917fcaee2c65fbf614543f62cb

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on July 03, 2012
at 08:13 PM

My crossfit gym allows people to come and go and train as they want. You can do the crossfit WOD, or you can do your own thing. Most of us have a key to get in any time we want.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 03, 2012
at 07:10 PM

Let me google 'crossfit pain'. 1. pain is temporary... victory lasts forever. 2. working past the pain - Crossfit forum 3. from pain comes pleasure - crossfit journal 4. crossfit "embrace the pain" - facebook 5. the glorious pain of crossfit

58a46496b84d6686df23c7ef01ea14dc

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on July 03, 2012
at 07:04 PM

I work out and coach at a Crossfit gym. I can tell you must have had a bad experience and would suggest that you try out another box. They are not all the same. The gym I work out has vastly different programming, quality of coaching and athlete performance reviews compared to other ones I have been to. Although we do WODs we also have classes that are strictly gymnastics, olympic weight lifting, mobility and sprinting. Further I don't believe any box strives to promote injury or pain, that's bullshit. Also to dismiss a whole methodology over kipping is ridiculous.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Totally missed that you did Starting Strength (what I posted is from the Starting Strength crossfit wiki page). 5 Months to accomplish what you did is great! What is also great is that it's not unheard of. It's a proven method for anybody who gets on the program. I follow a lot of other women's lifting logs on the forums, and it's beyond impressive.

81fca18329e68e227cdfef3857bfef96

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:40 PM

So true. Strength is the most important factor to increase in human fitness because it carries over other areas. Endurance is much easier to train as well. Strength training requires months of training for significant improvement while endurance can be trained in the matter of weeks.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:34 PM

"High levels of strength and power will always carry over into endurance. It's much easier for a guy who can clean & jerk 460lb like Donny Shankle to do 30 reps with 135lb, than for the guys whose max clean & jerk is only 225lb. Just like 50 x 135lb Squats are easier for a guy with a 400lb Squat than for a guy with a 225lb max Squat. Strength and power always carries over to endurance, always. And this is why Crossfit fails, it's way too endurance-focused than strength-focused."

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:25 PM

If Crossfit allowed you to come and go and lift as you please, I'd be there in a heartbeat. They have all of the equipment that I... and MOST serious lifters want. There are very few heavy lifting gyms around. I don't understand not letting people come and go. What's the reasoning? Keep people out of your gym and still get to charge them a shit ton?

5c94900002a867dfa2a8fcd91a576c5e

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:22 PM

That's exactly how I feel about it! And the trainers will step in during a metcon to correct someone's (namely my) form. I guess not every box is like that.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:06 PM

And this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-j3RoNBscY

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:05 PM

Oh, see you already pointed it out.....I could just delete my answer then, but I'll leave it and give ya a +1 :)

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B9673e4701dbf7017da7d75e9a44da6d

on July 03, 2012
at 06:17 PM

There's a lot of generalization here. Yes, a lot of what you say can be applied to "bad" boxes but many CF boxes aren't like that. Mine certainly isn't. The trainers are constantly drilling it into our brains to prioritise safety/technique over time/reps/weight and watch us like hawks to make sure we're not compromising ourselves.

I just quit my gym after doing a trial-run at CF. As soon as I started CF, I stopped going to the gym. I go MAX three times a week. I've never seen my body composition change so quickly, not even when I was going to the gym 5x a week.

At the gym, no one ever started up a random conversation with me but at CF, everyone is super chatty and there's a great community feeling. Those that finish first always cheer on those finishing last.

I used to dread going to the gym and now I really look forward to CF, like REALLY look forward to it. I never thought exercise would be enjoyable for me but I was wrong.

5c94900002a867dfa2a8fcd91a576c5e

(456)

on July 03, 2012
at 06:22 PM

That's exactly how I feel about it! And the trainers will step in during a metcon to correct someone's (namely my) form. I guess not every box is like that.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 03, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Agree with what you state about "bad" boxes. Mine is amazing. Supporting and nurturing, and in my experience quite unusual compared to others. Multiple coaches on the floor at all times, we're in for an hour with a good warmup, form critiques, strength training (we have 4 days a week), METCON, adjustments and scaling for anyone who needs or requests it, et al. As a former swimmer, competing at a national level, I've never had such caring coaching or been involved in a better community, or been in better shape.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 03, 2012
at 09:31 PM

Agree with what you state about "bad" boxes. Mine is amazing as well, very upporting and nurturing. Multiple coaches on the floor at all times, we're in for an hour with a good warmup, form critiques, strength training (we have 4 days a week), METCON, adjustments and scaling for anyone who needs or requests it, et al. As a former swimmer, competing at a national level, I've never had such caring coaching or been involved in a better community, or been in better shape. I'm strong, fast, happy and healthy - that's all that counts, right? :)

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 03, 2012
at 09:32 PM

PS: I love when I get to push someone over to the 10pt mark! Congrats on the new badge :)

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F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

on July 03, 2012
at 05:58 PM

  1. A lot of the 'trainers' are not skilled or trained properly. They teach bad and dangerous technique ALL the time.

  2. They promote injury and pain which are NOT required to be strong.

  3. They think they're THE elite and can accomplish anything a bodybuilder can but better.

  4. They charge you out the ass.

  5. Many people complain that they're not getting stronger. Well duh, you're doing endurance lifting.

  6. They kip! WTF is that?! It's not real. A lot of what they do isn't real. The Crossfit Games are painful for anybody who actually knows how to lift to watch... especially the deadlifts. omg I'm cringing just thinking about it.

58a46496b84d6686df23c7ef01ea14dc

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on July 03, 2012
at 08:13 PM

and where does it say that it promotes injury?

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 04, 2012
at 02:59 AM

^^^ This was mentioned elsewhere. When you are pushing yourself to failure while doing lifts that weren't meant to be endurance lifts, you are guaranteed to have terrible, dangerous lifts.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 04, 2012
at 02:58 AM

"Uncle Rhabdo represents a character in the CrossFit community and is short for rhabdomyolysis, a kidney condition most commonly induced by excessive exercise... The haunting image of Uncle Rhabdo is a cartoon of a blue-haired-red-nosed clown with face paint, panting from exhaustion with organs and blood spilling from its body, a set of weights in the background...Some in CrossFit use these clowns as a humorous way to prove that they’ve worked hard...“I do give them a little sticker [if they puke],” says Hollis Molloy, a trainer at CrossFit...

58a46496b84d6686df23c7ef01ea14dc

(20)

on July 03, 2012
at 07:04 PM

I work out and coach at a Crossfit gym. I can tell you must have had a bad experience and would suggest that you try out another box. They are not all the same. The gym I work out has vastly different programming, quality of coaching and athlete performance reviews compared to other ones I have been to. Although we do WODs we also have classes that are strictly gymnastics, olympic weight lifting, mobility and sprinting. Further I don't believe any box strives to promote injury or pain, that's bullshit. Also to dismiss a whole methodology over kipping is ridiculous.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 03, 2012
at 07:10 PM

Let me google 'crossfit pain'. 1. pain is temporary... victory lasts forever. 2. working past the pain - Crossfit forum 3. from pain comes pleasure - crossfit journal 4. crossfit "embrace the pain" - facebook 5. the glorious pain of crossfit

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 04, 2012
at 02:58 AM

While all exercise can create injury, Geier sees more injuries with CrossFit because of the high-speed, high-impact approach. Certain exercises implemented by CrossFit (Olympic lifts, specifically) are meant to be done in moderation. But CrossFit preaches pushing to the edge of every set, every rep, until there’s nothing left in the tank. And while training to muscular failure is notoriously debatable, one thing is certain: Regularly pushing your body to failure can lead to serious health risks, like rhabdomyolysis.

58a46496b84d6686df23c7ef01ea14dc

(20)

on July 04, 2012
at 04:59 PM

Okay, you can find examples and that is great. But you really can't lump all crossfit gyms in together. The programming at my gym comes nowhere near that. Very unfortunate that you have had such a bad experience.

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on July 03, 2012
at 05:58 PM

Anything I could say on it, is much more eloquently explained by Robb Wolfe here.

That being said, I have no problem with crossfit per se, but many followers tend to get slightly addicted, and you have threads here along the lines of "I'm strict paleo, and getting sick all the time" - to find out they are crossfitting 6 days a week plus additional activities.

Intensity when met with highly complicated lifts (Olympic lifts and gymnastics) and the lack of skilled coaching on those lifts tend to be a recipe for disaster. Throw in the odd few who are compelled to workout every day the box is open because dues are over $100/month, and overuse injuries, inflammation become commonplace.

6371f0ae0c075ded1b8cd30aafd4bf16

on July 03, 2012
at 09:56 PM

Crossfit didn't create the misguided idiot. I've seen those same people killing themselves at the globo gym running 20 miles on the treadmill daily, trying to eliminate that last pound of fat. We need people to be more educated about health and fitness altogether and so far Crossfit is doing a good job of spreading the word. Would you rather have them sitting on the couch developing metabolic derangement sucking driving up our healthcare costs.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21420)

on July 04, 2012
at 01:53 AM

Jesus Backflipping Christ Dan, Do you think I advocate the other extreme? "Oh, he dislikes Crossfit, he must want people to just sit on a couch!"

E2123e1da4ccbe211c9cbd82356fe4bc

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on July 04, 2012
at 04:14 AM

+1 for the mental image of a backflipping Jesus.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on July 04, 2012
at 04:47 AM

Interesting commentary from Robb Wolfe which echoes some of my concerns about crossfit. But, he gripes about other people always wanting to be the "guru" yet he wants to be the guru. Some of his bitterness seems out of spite.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 03, 2012
at 06:05 PM

Oh, see you already pointed it out.....I could just delete my answer then, but I'll leave it and give ya a +1 :)

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81fca18329e68e227cdfef3857bfef96

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:27 PM

Crossfit HQ is randomized metabolic conditioning work outs. There is no programming and no periodization. These are required to make gains beyond novice to intermediate levels of fitness. You will not develop your endurance nor your strength to significant fitness levels. Add in that CF uses exercises intended to test maximal strength for high repetition sets and you have a recipe for injury.

Many Crossfit gyms program strength training 3 days a week separate from met cons. This is no longer CF but simply proven athletic training. Lift heavy/run sprints has been the work out for professional athletes/power lifters for decades.

I was a member of CF for several months. I lost strength and endurance (Major lifts went down 15% and 5K time went from 28 minutes to 31 minutes). I was introduced to starting strength. I reprogrammed 3 days of strength and 3 days walking. My strength increased to new PR's over 5 months (over 20% increase to major lifts from previous PR) and 5K went back down to 28 minutes. I squat 375, deadlift 390, bench 255. I can do 26 pull-ups in one set. There were people at my CF gym that could not perform one pull-up after a year of training.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 03, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Totally missed that you did Starting Strength (what I posted is from the Starting Strength crossfit wiki page). 5 Months to accomplish what you did is great! What is also great is that it's not unheard of. It's a proven method for anybody who gets on the program. I follow a lot of other women's lifting logs on the forums, and it's beyond impressive.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 03, 2012
at 06:34 PM

"High levels of strength and power will always carry over into endurance. It's much easier for a guy who can clean & jerk 460lb like Donny Shankle to do 30 reps with 135lb, than for the guys whose max clean & jerk is only 225lb. Just like 50 x 135lb Squats are easier for a guy with a 400lb Squat than for a guy with a 225lb max Squat. Strength and power always carries over to endurance, always. And this is why Crossfit fails, it's way too endurance-focused than strength-focused."

81fca18329e68e227cdfef3857bfef96

(1320)

on July 03, 2012
at 06:40 PM

So true. Strength is the most important factor to increase in human fitness because it carries over other areas. Endurance is much easier to train as well. Strength training requires months of training for significant improvement while endurance can be trained in the matter of weeks.

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on July 03, 2012
at 07:24 PM

Crossfit is the triumph of slogans over thought.

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E4069040201c3591b9b774df6ed9cad4

on July 03, 2012
at 08:07 PM

For me, it's all the egoism and macho posturing.

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:18 PM

I don't want to reiterate what a lot of people said here, but a lot of it is true Crossfit Box depending. I personally do crossfit at a box, and thoroughly enjoy it, but I do know the limits of crossfit. I also know the importance of form, and it is also something that is stressed on by the instructors at my box. That's why I think it's highly dependent on where you go.

Another reason that people hate on crossfit sometimes is the attitude of the people that do it. They tend to have an ego.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on July 04, 2012
at 03:23 AM

I am also new to CF and agree with you that it seems great, my body composition has already changed after just about 6 weeks, and I find it challenging and fun and interesting and look forward to it every day that I go (3-4x per week).

I can see how some people would be a bit too serious / intense / macho about it so it probably depends on the gym and trainer. Also I can see how people might try to do it 7 days per week and get burned out.

My gym seems to attract two groups of people, those that are seriously fit and looking to remain so (triatheletes, active elite military, MMA, etc) and out of shape office workers trying to get in shape (I am in this category). If I have any criticism of my gym it is this dichotomy, which isn't really the fault of the gym except their difficulty in trying to appeal to both groups.

For example yesterday's WOD called for weighted pull-ups and a bunch of lunges with weights. Only 3 or 4 of the 12 or so class members could actually do an unassisted pull-up, much less a weighted one. The rest of the workout was pretty easy. So most of the class did not get much of a workout and also did not get any closer to being able to do pull-ups. Instead what they probably need is instruction in the building blocks of pull-ups so they can work up to them, but that doesn't fit into a WOD. I think what the instructors need to provide is a novice track or workshops in difficult exercises so everyone can be able to do them.

On a different day the WOD was a brutal progressive 10-step workout consisting of a 400m run, ring dips, pull ups, front press, burpees, ball slams, thrusters, and a few more things I can't even remember. Half the class (the already super fit) blew through it in 30 minutes but the other half either took an hour or didn't finish and were very discouraged. Form and technique went out the window and I am surprised nobody got hurt. This to me is reckless and puts everyone at risk.

So I am learning that if you are out of shape and/or new to cross fit, you need to use some judgement in how you approach the workouts, and should expect to do some "homework" to do your own training to bring yourself up to speed in areas where you are lacking. For example, my pull-ups suck and I am not going to get any better at them at a crossfit gym unless someone takes a lot of special time with me, so I am doing that myself.

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on July 03, 2012
at 07:25 PM

From my perspective "CF" is great! Currently I'm doing Mark Sisson's PB sessions (for the last year). My wife is going to Nor Cal Strength and Conditioning (Robb's place). I just went for my first time as a guest with my wife - L.O.V.E.D. it!! My wife goes ONLY 2x per week and maybe does a run here and there on the weekends (3 miles max). SHE LOOKS AMAZING - better than she did when we got married. Again, the trick is diet and being smart at "the gym" The intensity seems to work well with most (for results).

I know I want to join my wife, but have a hard time shelling out $300/mo. for both of us right now. I love that she is seeing results. I'm fine continuing with my monkey workouts.

Back to your original question "why so many dislike"...I think it's about understanding and learning the new lifestyle. Most can't IMAGINE only going a couple times a week and getting the results we get. Couple that with this "crazy" diet thingie we're doing and it seems so foreign to most. I think it's because it's associated with "paleo" personally (why it's disliked).

At Nor Cal, everyone is so positive, upbeat, helpful, and TEAM oriented - what's not to like about that?????? I don't see the egos AT ALL! Again, Nor Cal might have shed the CF stigma a bit.

Good luck!

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:10 PM

I think crossfit does a lot of benefit for the novice person trying to start on a fitness program and has benefited a lot of people. With that being said, I think a lot of the programming is flawed and potentially dangerous. Doing olympic lifts and plyometrics for high reps and little regard for form and performing high intensity workouts 4-6 times per week with little regard for recovery is a recipe for disaster.

I tried out a local Box, but the high cost and the rigid class schedule didn't work for me. I would love for a Crossfit Gyms to have open gym time that people could come and go as they please and do their own programming. It's almost impossible to find a commercial gym that has all the great equipment that you'll find at a Crossfit Box. Bumper plates, ropes, sleds, plyo boxes, etc... plus being able to use chalk and drop weights is nice.

In summary, I think crossfit is better than the average gym goer's low intensity, machine based, body building split program. I like that it emphasizes compound lifts and real world movements. I just think some people take it too far.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:25 PM

If Crossfit allowed you to come and go and lift as you please, I'd be there in a heartbeat. They have all of the equipment that I... and MOST serious lifters want. There are very few heavy lifting gyms around. I don't understand not letting people come and go. What's the reasoning? Keep people out of your gym and still get to charge them a shit ton?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 03, 2012
at 11:18 PM

What you answered is precisely why it's NOT "good for a novice person trying to start on a fitness program." Good exercise for a novice/beginner would be something along the lines of bodyrock.tv workouts, which are fully customizable to your own abilities.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 03, 2012
at 09:12 PM

What you answered is precisely why it's NOT "good for a novice person trying to start on a fitness program."

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on July 03, 2012
at 08:13 PM

My crossfit gym allows people to come and go and train as they want. You can do the crossfit WOD, or you can do your own thing. Most of us have a key to get in any time we want.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on July 04, 2012
at 03:03 AM

My crossfit gym also allows people to come and go as they please and attend whichever met con or lifting class they want. They provide guidance and suggestions if you want it, and not if you don't. Different gyms and trainers have different attitudes.

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:04 PM

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on July 03, 2012
at 06:06 PM

And this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-j3RoNBscY

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