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Paleo crisis : I just do not know how to get outta there! :(

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 23, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Dear paleo friends,

I am in a deep depression and dont know how to get out of there. Hope you could help me.

I am (was) paleo since oktober 2012 and lost a lot of weight. Than I got really depressed and overate with gluten and sugar for about a week. Than I went back to paleo, because I felt disgusting and wanted to feel and look great again. But my overemotionality led me again to the pizza, 1 kg bread for a day and I started eating quantities of bread and rice I didnt thought I was able to. But I was convinced: This time was the last: I went back paleo for about 2 weeks.

Today I just felt so miserable and out of control of my life(not because of the food) that i again ate 500 gr bread with 200 g peanut butter and 400 g strawberry confitire. I have 14 % body fat, 170 cm tall, 63 kg. Maybe after today more. But I am just wandering....how do I get out of that????? I know, its emotional eating, but for some time i thought: "hey, why am i doing this actually?? is paleo the reason that i make this extreme binges now or its just my emotions??? and why cant i go back to paleo and am binging for 2 months "

I know, this questions can be answered only by myself. But I really need a good reason now to find again my eating comfort and want to do it paleo. Did you go through such a phase? How did you cope with that?

Thanks,

Mirabelle

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on May 31, 2013
at 04:05 AM

I hope I didn't appear rude. It's just that I'd hate for you to be beating yourself up over what you are eating when the culprit could be somewhere else. Having said that, I heard a fitness podcast today interviewing a female crossfitter and she said a few months ago she was feeling really awful. She was cranky, tired, etc. She thought it was her birth control but after Dr tests, turns out that she was just underfed for all the training she was doing- she had a 1500 daily calorie deficit! So maybe could it be that your diet on Paleo was much too light for your body and was throwing you off?

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Yeah, I have had financial problems and a burn out due to study. But this is just a part of life, I don't know if I must relate it to my food binges. Maybe I should. But.. okay, thanks to all of you, I know this site is not for emotional problems. I just wanted to figure out if is it maybe the diet itself... and maybe... how did you get over such binges :) All the best :)

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:15 PM

with several detoxes and paleo. So... that is really not that low for a woman.

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:14 PM

This is JUST what I needed to hear. Thank you :D :) Nope, I am paleo for the health reasons and because I feel amazing. It was just that binge that took me out of control, but as you said, that is part of the habit-breaking-process. I am actually better. As about the 14% : really? Okay, the most ifbb pro models out there are that range 12-16 % BF. And this is just a result of my lifestyle, I dont do it intentionally. I look pretty fit and the trainers in the gym asked me why dont I compete (IFBB pro), but this is not my thing. Also, I feel perfectly healthy and cured PCOS and acne

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on May 25, 2013
at 03:35 AM

I'm going to have to disagree re: 14% body fat. A very small number of women can sustain that in a healthy fashion. So, I do think it's uncommon. You might find your body weight rise a bit with adding carbs, because carbs help regulate your hormones, which in turn regulate your body composition AND mood. I know you're concerned about your emotional eating, but we often get intensely negative emotional reactions because of the foods we eat. It's a vivious cycle and all that.

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on May 24, 2013
at 07:40 AM

P.s. jep, my carb intake is always very low- around 50-80 or even under 50... maybe this is a reason...

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on May 24, 2013
at 07:37 AM

thanks, but 14% isnt that uncommon... I go to the gym 4-5 days a week and with the paleo diet the fat just cant stay on me despite of the quantities I eat. Its just that I feel so guilty that I cheated that bad.

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on May 23, 2013
at 10:00 PM

:) tys greymouser..im canandia and supposed to be metric but its only for show :P we really never did convert at heart.

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on May 23, 2013
at 07:15 PM

yes, I am a woman. Thank you for the answer.

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on May 23, 2013
at 06:55 PM

sorry, thought its not that big problem

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on May 23, 2013
at 06:50 PM

For us non-metric folk, that's 5'7" and 141lbs.

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:22 AM

You're miserable because you ate a lot of food you didn't want to eat? So have we all! Just because you found a style of eating that you think is healthful, doesn't mean it's easy to do it. When a smoker decides to quit, it can take quite a while before they actually do quit. They just have to keep trying.

But it's hard to break a habit when you hate yourself! If you decide you're too weak to break the habit, then it feels pointless to try. That's a bad place to be. Instead, remember that you are a human being with human frailties, and breaking bad habits is a long, but worthwhile, process. Two steps forward and one step back. "Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, start all over again." Somehow, though you don't know how now, your cheats WILL get less frequent, less severe, and of shorter duration. It's a process. Every time something goes wrong, just try to figure out what went wrong and if there's anything you can do to make it better. Sometimes you won't know what to do to make it better, but sometimes you will, and a year from now you'll look back to now and be pleased at your continued progress. Failure is an inevitable part of the process, and the only way you will not improve is if you beat yourself up so much that you give up and decide it's hopeless.

From the time I learned about Paleo until the point that I was 60% compliant was probably a year! Pathetic! But I just resolved to be better the each day, and I've continued to improve.

So, in summary, you're eating junk because that stuff is around and it's tasty, and it's what you're used to eating. It's a habit. Figure out what would have made this less likely. Eating a larger paleo dinner? Not having those foods in the house? Carrying snacks around for when you get hungry? Just keep trying for solutions.

And I guess I have to mention, as others have, that 14% body fat is very low for a woman. So I hope you're interested in Paleo for health rather than weight control. If it is for weight control, maybe you need to see someone about body image issues. If it's for health, you know that hating yourself is far worse for health than peanut butter and strawberry on bread.

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:15 PM

with several detoxes and paleo. So... that is really not that low for a woman.

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:14 PM

This is JUST what I needed to hear. Thank you :D :) Nope, I am paleo for the health reasons and because I feel amazing. It was just that binge that took me out of control, but as you said, that is part of the habit-breaking-process. I am actually better. As about the 14% : really? Okay, the most ifbb pro models out there are that range 12-16 % BF. And this is just a result of my lifestyle, I dont do it intentionally. I look pretty fit and the trainers in the gym asked me why dont I compete (IFBB pro), but this is not my thing. Also, I feel perfectly healthy and cured PCOS and acne

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on May 23, 2013
at 07:04 PM

First, "Mirabelle"? That sounds like a woman's name, right? If you are 14% body fat at 5'7", 141lbs, you're already incredibly low body fat and very fit for a female. Are you sure those numbers are correct?

I know, this questions can be answered only by myself.

If you are feeling out of control, I suggest you immediately discuss your issues with a loved one or a friend. If you do not have someone like that in your life, you should get in a touch with a mental health professional that specializes in disordered eating.

Stop spending time hating yourself, and start looking for help in real life, not on the Internet.

Good luck.

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on May 23, 2013
at 07:15 PM

yes, I am a woman. Thank you for the answer.

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on May 24, 2013
at 03:02 AM

Wow. 14% body fat. I agree that that's very low. Are you menstruating regularly? If not, that's something to consider as well. Your body might be begging you for some higher fat stores!

I agree with the answers that suggest to make sure you're getting enough nutrients. Also, you might want to consider having more carbs, depending on your intake. (Is it less than 100g? Some women need more like 150 -200 g for thyroid purposes.)

Unfortunately there are lots of potential reasons you're experiencing this. Please tweak your diet until something seems right. But remember: gluten and soy-especially- make depression worse often times.

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on May 24, 2013
at 07:40 AM

P.s. jep, my carb intake is always very low- around 50-80 or even under 50... maybe this is a reason...

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on May 24, 2013
at 07:37 AM

thanks, but 14% isnt that uncommon... I go to the gym 4-5 days a week and with the paleo diet the fat just cant stay on me despite of the quantities I eat. Its just that I feel so guilty that I cheated that bad.

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on May 25, 2013
at 03:35 AM

I'm going to have to disagree re: 14% body fat. A very small number of women can sustain that in a healthy fashion. So, I do think it's uncommon. You might find your body weight rise a bit with adding carbs, because carbs help regulate your hormones, which in turn regulate your body composition AND mood. I know you're concerned about your emotional eating, but we often get intensely negative emotional reactions because of the foods we eat. It's a vivious cycle and all that.

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on May 23, 2013
at 09:19 PM

There are a few things to do.

The first thing to do is avoid all artificial sweeteners, and drop down your sugars for about two weeks. This will recalibrate your sweet tooth- make you more sensitive to sweet things. I used to sweeten my coffee with Splenda. When I gave it up, pizza and any sort of bread stopped looking like food after about two weeks.

The second thing to do is cheat, but read labels. You want something sweet? Read the label. If it has grains, legumes or dairy (protein) in it (and I include soy lecithin in this) don't eat it. You will have to buy good chocolate, or get your sugar rush from medjool dates.

This works. You can screw up, probably at least once a week, and still do fine, because the big three offenders- wheat, soy, and milk proteins- do more to keep you hooked and fat than simple sugars. Additionally, avoiding that wheat and peanut butter means you are removing some of the drug-like chemicals that are encouraging emotional eating. The strawberry confitire (assuming it is just fruit and sugar as a quick google search suggested it would be and not industrial crap filled with all kinds of other stuff) will be sweet, but not have any of these triggers.

And then, there is the preemptive strike. I don't think you should eat when you are not hungry, so wait until you are hungry rather than just eat immediately on waking, but when you do eat breakfast, make sure you have plenty of fat and protein.

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on May 25, 2013
at 03:55 AM

Sounds like it's not a food problem but a life problem. You are focusing on a symptom, not the cause. Look at your life and maybe get some help. Talk to someone, figure out what is making you so unhappy in the first place, then see what changes can be made.

It sounds simple, but it isn't. And it's crucial...

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on May 25, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Yeah, I have had financial problems and a burn out due to study. But this is just a part of life, I don't know if I must relate it to my food binges. Maybe I should. But.. okay, thanks to all of you, I know this site is not for emotional problems. I just wanted to figure out if is it maybe the diet itself... and maybe... how did you get over such binges :) All the best :)

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(90)

on May 31, 2013
at 04:05 AM

I hope I didn't appear rude. It's just that I'd hate for you to be beating yourself up over what you are eating when the culprit could be somewhere else. Having said that, I heard a fitness podcast today interviewing a female crossfitter and she said a few months ago she was feeling really awful. She was cranky, tired, etc. She thought it was her birth control but after Dr tests, turns out that she was just underfed for all the training she was doing- she had a 1500 daily calorie deficit! So maybe could it be that your diet on Paleo was much too light for your body and was throwing you off?

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on May 23, 2013
at 11:02 PM

Your missing some vitamins and probably some dopamine, eat paleo but eat nutrient dense foods. Someone can eat sweet potatoes and hunks of meat all day and be paleo try buying some nutritional yeast flakes, take magnesium, and make sure to have liver once a week along with your leafy green veggies. Make sure your getting vitamind d through supplementation, or tanning/tanning bed twice a week medium pressure bed. Start working out, if you haven't already. Feel better though, don't be so hard on yourself and live your life. You'll feel a lot better

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