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Why is ice cream so bad?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 09, 2011 at 4:41 AM

Okay, so this may seem like a no-brainer, but if ice cream (assume high quality content: organic, grassfed dairy and no crappy fillers like guar gum) has such all-star ingredients -----like heavy cream and egg yolk!---why is it considered bad for you? Is it just the sugar (fructose) content? The combo of fat and sugar? Or is there another reason? For example, I've heard that if you're gonna eat sugar, best to eat it with fat so as to mitigate blood sugar spiking. Is this true?

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

From a food reward perspective, you may be getting yourself in some deep doo doo. But that depends on who you are. Our kind Sherpa here has her shit dialed. If you don't and one bite of ice cream turns into a gallon quickly, be honest with yourself about it. The trick to good health is being honest with yourself.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on January 31, 2013
at 11:44 PM

Maybe it's a difference in individual chemistry, but I find ice cream very satiating. Pretty much the only dessert I can say that about.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on January 31, 2013
at 09:04 PM

Yeah, I try to get everyone to take that advice, but it just doesn't seem to work :)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on January 31, 2013
at 08:05 PM

When in doubt, listen to miked.

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on January 31, 2013
at 04:28 PM

http://www.target.com/p/the-ice-cream-ball-play-and-freeze-ice-cream-maker-red/-/A-10640462?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C10640462&CPNG=Appliances&kpid=10640462&LID=PA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=10640462 Found it!

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

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on January 31, 2013
at 04:28 PM

Do you need electricity to make ice cream? I swear I saw a ice cream maker that was just a ball that you roll around. You do need ice though.

D2936f57e5478aa96837a3fdb4691f57

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on June 08, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Disagree with pretty much everything you said. "Any sugar is bad"? Yeah right. Do you know a high-protein meal equally causes an insulin "dump"?

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on June 08, 2012
at 01:34 PM

agreed sucralose trumps sugar

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on October 10, 2011
at 05:58 PM

Sucralose is man-made but I don't think it's necessarily harmful. Low carbers use it profusely. Some people supplement with guar gum. Dose makes something a toxin. Low dose = no harm or possible hormesis. Low dose sugar alcohol + Splenda still trump equivalent (high dose) sugar any day.

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:52 PM

That ice cream is garbage, low car frankenfod at its worst. Sugar>>>>>>>>>>>gums and sucralose.

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on October 10, 2011
at 05:26 AM

I don't disagree! But in general I think that's why ice-cream is considered "bad" by most people. It's ice cream, it's *dessert* so by definition, it's a bad thing. For sure, sugar isn't good for us, but I do think you're right that high-quality ice-cream isn't awful. Probably the best dessert you could eat, thinking about it.

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:39 AM

A whallop of grassfed heavy cream, and a pile of egg yolk? I know the sugar's no good, but I don't think it can be simply dismissed as 'junk dessert.' When I eat it (the HQ version) it feels pretty foodie. Digests well, feels satiating.

F79dd33c17d9fbb55cc7e202dfa30e6e

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:31 AM

Who ever said it was bad for you! I tend to agree with this, though they usually do contain too much sugar. I don't eat conventional dairy, bc I don't want all those hormones/pesticides/antibiotics or cruelty, but local grassfed ice cream? Food for the soul, yes!

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:25 AM

I live in the woods with little electricity, so making my own is not an option, otherwise I would make it an include just sprinkle if honey or maple syrup. But the fabulous Strauss dairy (Northern Cally makes the best ice cream I've ever tasted, with the simplest ingredient list: cream, milk, egg yolk, sugar, salt, vanilla. All organic. I feel pretty good after eating it, even though I would halve the sugar content if I had the chance. Sometimes I make up a batch of good ol' fashioned custard with just a bit sugar added. Satisfies the "ice cream bone" no freezer required. Feels like food!

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on October 09, 2011
at 11:39 PM

Second the make your own comment, you know exactly what's in it, it's usually cheaper than store bought and you get to avoid the HFCS/trans fats that are in most brands.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on October 09, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Yes that's true. I misread the OP slightly and thought she was talking about added fructose. My fault.

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on October 09, 2011
at 04:37 PM

Most good ice creams aren't going to have added fructose, but they'll still be backed with sucrose.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:03 PM

I eat it once a week--I consider it "soul food"! And we just found this: http://www.threetwinsicecream.com/

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on October 09, 2011
at 02:56 PM

Most store bought stuff is crap, but if you make your own or find some really good stuff, rock on!

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on October 09, 2011
at 01:36 PM

I'd say that the whole *considered bad for you* is merely conventional wisdom, no? We doubt much of what CW says. I'd say ice cream is fine.

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7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on October 09, 2011
at 04:50 AM

I guess it's because it does tend to contain a lot of sugar. It's also really easy to eat a lot of, I guess because of its texture/consistency and mouthfeel. The fact that it contains high quality cream doesn't change the fact that you're eating a sugary junk dessert and not a steak or something (I don't mean you specifically, just in general for why ice cream isn't considered a great food despite the points you raised.)

Anyway I don't know your health status but in a healthy individual eating carbohydrates (and this includes glucose) will not spike blood glucose or insulin pathologically, whether you eat them with fat or not.

Also, if you're eating high quality ice cream at least, the majority of the sugars won't be in the form of fructose.

Basically, I wouldn't really worry about eating some ice cream occasionally. Purists will obviously disagree.

F79dd33c17d9fbb55cc7e202dfa30e6e

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:39 AM

A whallop of grassfed heavy cream, and a pile of egg yolk? I know the sugar's no good, but I don't think it can be simply dismissed as 'junk dessert.' When I eat it (the HQ version) it feels pretty foodie. Digests well, feels satiating.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on October 09, 2011
at 04:37 PM

Most good ice creams aren't going to have added fructose, but they'll still be backed with sucrose.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on October 09, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Yes that's true. I misread the OP slightly and thought she was talking about added fructose. My fault.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on October 10, 2011
at 05:26 AM

I don't disagree! But in general I think that's why ice-cream is considered "bad" by most people. It's ice cream, it's *dessert* so by definition, it's a bad thing. For sure, sugar isn't good for us, but I do think you're right that high-quality ice-cream isn't awful. Probably the best dessert you could eat, thinking about it.

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on October 09, 2011
at 04:56 AM

Who said it was bad for you? High quality ice cream with natural ingredients is no different than other high fat dairy. If you can tolerate dairy, eat it. I do.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

From a food reward perspective, you may be getting yourself in some deep doo doo. But that depends on who you are. Our kind Sherpa here has her shit dialed. If you don't and one bite of ice cream turns into a gallon quickly, be honest with yourself about it. The trick to good health is being honest with yourself.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on October 09, 2011
at 05:46 AM

It's certainly much better for you than eating cupcakes or something like that

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on October 09, 2011
at 05:51 AM

just the sugar. lots of folks make their own with little or no sugar.

and yes, buffering sugar with fat can help to mitigate the effect on blood sugar, but it's still gonna go up.

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on October 09, 2011
at 11:31 AM

It certainly makes for easy, high calorie/low satiation eating.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on January 31, 2013
at 11:44 PM

Maybe it's a difference in individual chemistry, but I find ice cream very satiating. Pretty much the only dessert I can say that about.

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on October 09, 2011
at 05:28 AM

I make my own Vanilla Ice Cream. I also eat Hagan Daz Vanilla Ice Cream from time to time.

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510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on January 31, 2013
at 08:00 PM

It's all about who you are and what your goals are. If you're obese, insulin resistant, trying to lose weight, etc, then it's pretty darn high in sugar and it's in a form that's analogous to drinking your calories. Since you're not chewing it, your body isn't preparing for the onslaught of sugar and it just hits the gut and smacks you hard.

If you're an athlete running on the glycolytic end all the time then I don't see much of a problem with ice cream (as long as it's the "natural" kind and the only ingredients are cream, milk, and sugar). If I could handle dairy, I'd be all over a bowl of ice cream post workout to as a recovery food.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on January 31, 2013
at 08:05 PM

When in doubt, listen to miked.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on January 31, 2013
at 09:04 PM

Yeah, I try to get everyone to take that advice, but it just doesn't seem to work :)

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on October 09, 2011
at 04:44 PM

Zat evil sugar .

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 09, 2011
at 04:39 PM

Is it really so bad? Essentially 50% carb and 50% fat. If those are real fats and real sugar, then I wager you can squeeze it in periodically without ill effect on one's health.

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on January 31, 2013
at 05:56 PM

  1. I make my own frozen treat in my Vitamix: grass fed heavy cream, banana, frozen strawberry, frozen blueberry, some dark choc tossed in at the end of the blend cycle for some crunch. YUMMMY!

  2. If I'm out, and can't find a good lunch, and am near a convenience store, sometimes I'll buy a pint of Haagen-Dazs vanila:

http://www.haagendazs.com/Products/Product/2473

Cream, skim milk, sugar, egg yolks, vanilla extract.

Because it has lots of saturated fat, I feel it slows the absorption of the sugar.

Mike

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on October 10, 2011
at 12:03 AM

Before I started Paleoing and avoided eating dairy, I ate Breyer's Carb Smart ice cream. They have vanilla and chocolate, and also almond bars. Sweetened with Sucralose (Splenda) and sugar alcohol. If I were low-carbing and doing about 75g net carbs per day, and am ok with dairy, and some artificial ingredients, I would incorporate some low-carb ice cream to my diet.

http://www.breyers.com/products/carb-smart-ice-cream.aspx

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:52 PM

That ice cream is garbage, low car frankenfod at its worst. Sugar>>>>>>>>>>>gums and sucralose.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

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on October 10, 2011
at 05:58 PM

Sucralose is man-made but I don't think it's necessarily harmful. Low carbers use it profusely. Some people supplement with guar gum. Dose makes something a toxin. Low dose = no harm or possible hormesis. Low dose sugar alcohol + Splenda still trump equivalent (high dose) sugar any day.

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on June 08, 2012
at 01:34 PM

agreed sucralose trumps sugar

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on January 31, 2013
at 10:16 PM

Ive made ice cream from raw organic cream, milk, and (what ever spices you want, but sugar isnt needed at all because the raw organic cream and milk are sweet enough.) I like to juice 2 bunches of fresh organic mint and mix that into my cream and milk and that makes a great Mint Ice cream, or you can mix in fresh ground spices and have something like a pumpkin pie spiced ice cream which is fantastic.

Cheers!!!

Jason

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:32 PM

Other people already mentioned that quality matters. My two cents for something not mentioned so far, is that sugary flavors are turned down by cold temperatures. Therefore ice creams and overall any iced dessert needs many more times the amount of sugar than any non cold dessert. You can have an amazing quality, but still, you will need much more sugar to reach the same amount of sweetness.

That is the reason for which hot desserts, such as cinnamon rolls or rice pudding (served freshly made) can still be very tasty with little sugar

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on January 31, 2013
at 04:03 PM

You can only eat it when there's bacon in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pcr8hPWMjQ

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on January 31, 2013
at 03:57 PM

yes;ice creams are bad for health.some ice creams contain chemicals like-piperonal,diethyl glucol,amyl acetate,etc too bad for health.aldehyde c17 is used for cherry flavour,amyl acetate used for banana flavour,saccharin and aspartane also which causes cancer......... but still we can't avoid ice creams totally,only the thing is that we should be aware of what we r intaking..

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:47 PM

I've cut all diary I like having coconut ice cream

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on June 08, 2012
at 01:30 PM

Any sugar is bad, natural or not its going to cause an insulin dump. Try making your own and substituting Kal brand stevia for the sugar (no after taste like most of the other brands). Avoid Sucralose, even though you may not get an insulin dump from it the bacteria in your gut can still use it, this causes an imbalance of bad gut flora. Not to mention that its not natural (just because its made from sugar doesn't mean its natural).

Paleo man wasn't drinking milk on a routine basis, much like he wasn't consuming honey routinely. Milk casein isn't good for us and lactose is very bad for those that are even a little lactose intolerant (and if you aren't the least bit intolerant (rare) then its just more sugar. Milk was designed to fatten babies, imagine what it can do to adults who aren't growing (and just who's or what tit was the Paleo man sucking?) Coconut cream is fine. If you want more saturated fat and a creamier ice cream try adding some coconut oil and/or avocado. Using egg yolks to make a custard is also very good.

I'm still working on refining my recipe and was looking here for tips.

D2936f57e5478aa96837a3fdb4691f57

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on June 08, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Disagree with pretty much everything you said. "Any sugar is bad"? Yeah right. Do you know a high-protein meal equally causes an insulin "dump"?

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