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Coping with marijuana and cigarette cravings

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 04, 2013 at 11:32 PM

I am an ex-smoker who uses marijuana, daily, and it's very much a crutch. I originally started smoking it only once in a while, but when I quit smoking, I hugely increased my use of marijuana to cope with the cravings. Over the holidays I went abroad and abstained from marijuana for about two weeks. I felt really good, got up with a spring in my step after a deep, revitalizing sleep. I junked out, but even that didn't seem to do much harm beyond some slightly broken-out skin.

When I got home, I turned on the vaporizer the second day back. Next morning, I had the usual brain-fog, puffy, crappy-sleep feeling that I KNOW pot is responsible for. I hated it, I was annoyed at myself for starting in again so soon. I don't want to smoke pot anymore, it's not an enjoyable recreational activity for me anymore, it's a green skunky monkey on my back.

I can't stop thinking about it, though, AND my desire for cigarettes (formerly nil) has returned! Please recommend some strategies (other than exercise) for dealing with these cravings for the next few weeks, until they dissipate.

Thank you, guys.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:05 AM

Dammit Dorothy, are we back in Kansas yet?

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 04:08 AM

I'm moving to the USA, currently north of the border. And I am looking those vids up right now, I promise!

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on January 05, 2013
at 03:32 AM

Get over it, Sharon. Marijuana is totally paleo.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 03:06 AM

There was actually a study a read recently (if i end up going and finding it, i'll link it) that eating cannabis by prepared edibles, enhances health by fighting heart attacks and diabetes. I heard Joe Rogan on his podcast speaking about MMA fighters/BJJ practitioners who juice raw marijuana; if it's not heated and binded with fat (nut butter/butter/etc.) it isn't metabolized the same way and produces NO HIGH; but supposedly raw marijuana juicing is very invigorating and healthful

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 03:04 AM

I'd also say Cannabis can be "paleo/primal/traditional"; it's been used throughout history by various cultures for medicinal and spiritual purposes (some sects of hindus/and the ancient chinese, for instance), and actually has many health benefits if you look into the literature on it's use. Depending on strain it can be anti-cancerous/tumeric, anti-anxiolytic, etc. Also there are now developments of strains that don't even contain THC, other cannabinoids such as CBD, which some produce different highs, some no high at all, purely medicinal.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 03:02 AM

No problem at all, glad I can help. Where will you be immigrating to if I may ask? And in all seriousness I'd look up those breathing/dynamic meditations. They seem absolutely crazy and "out-there" when watching people use them, and if you did them around people, they would think you're nuts. But do them properly and frequently and you'll end up feeling great after them. Elliott Hulse talks about "nuerotic holding patters", those exercises and meditations work to break them up.

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 01:09 AM

Wow, thank you for the great and detailed answer. I am going to be immigrating to another country soon, and so I definitely won't be using it while my legal status allows for deportation, which means I am pretty much definitely having nothing to do with it for at least 5 years. I really appreciate your advice, thank you again

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 12:05 AM

Yeah, I know, and I'm a paleo woman, trying to improve my health.

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 12:04 AM

I'm not anymore, I just had treats over the Christmas holiday.

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443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 12:54 AM

As an ex-cannabis user (and in all honesty, potentially returning when I'm much older) I feel I can give some sound input. First off, how serious are you about not smoking weed? If you're serious and want NOTHING to do with it again, tell everyone you smoke with you're not smoking anymore, and DESTROY/SELL/GET RID OF that damn vape and any other things you may smoke with. Another thing, if you have any liking of tea at all, start drinking copious amounts of it. You'll feel great. It won't be an extremely evident, sudden high per say, but it will be calming and give you vitality. I believe Green Tea has L-theanine... not quite sure but I believe it's a calming amino acid/antianxiolytic. Matcha Green Tea is preferable.

You can also look up some ways to naturally stimulate your endocannabinoid system (a system hardwired into humans, which is designed to take in cannabinoids from cannabis; that's why I believe proper marijuana use can be "paleo") I've seen some videos/articles on various things that produce/stimulate Anandamide's that can produce a small buzz. There are plenty of elixer's you can whip up with various mushrooms/spores that produce natural feelings of well-being and offer health benefits as well.

Also look up some of Elliott Hulse's videos on Breathing and similar topics. He has a lot of breathing exercises that do in fact invoke physical sensations if done properly, I've tried them myself. Look up Osho's Dynamic Meditations as well. There are dozens of specific meditations that actually have science backing the claims of producing physiologically measurable changes.

Hope some of this can help you out.

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 04:08 AM

I'm moving to the USA, currently north of the border. And I am looking those vids up right now, I promise!

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 01:09 AM

Wow, thank you for the great and detailed answer. I am going to be immigrating to another country soon, and so I definitely won't be using it while my legal status allows for deportation, which means I am pretty much definitely having nothing to do with it for at least 5 years. I really appreciate your advice, thank you again

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 03:02 AM

No problem at all, glad I can help. Where will you be immigrating to if I may ask? And in all seriousness I'd look up those breathing/dynamic meditations. They seem absolutely crazy and "out-there" when watching people use them, and if you did them around people, they would think you're nuts. But do them properly and frequently and you'll end up feeling great after them. Elliott Hulse talks about "nuerotic holding patters", those exercises and meditations work to break them up.

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86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

(2312)

on January 04, 2013
at 11:58 PM

...I feel like weed could be considered Paleo (if grown "organically")

But to be helpful, I think staying busy is a big help. And this is however you want...many people choose exercise, but you can just focus more on a hobby (OTHER thank smoking). Do something that you enjoy and requires you to be out of the house so you don't have the option to smoke.

Many times people smoke for the same reason they eat...because they are bored

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 03:04 AM

I'd also say Cannabis can be "paleo/primal/traditional"; it's been used throughout history by various cultures for medicinal and spiritual purposes (some sects of hindus/and the ancient chinese, for instance), and actually has many health benefits if you look into the literature on it's use. Depending on strain it can be anti-cancerous/tumeric, anti-anxiolytic, etc. Also there are now developments of strains that don't even contain THC, other cannabinoids such as CBD, which some produce different highs, some no high at all, purely medicinal.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 05, 2013
at 03:06 AM

There was actually a study a read recently (if i end up going and finding it, i'll link it) that eating cannabis by prepared edibles, enhances health by fighting heart attacks and diabetes. I heard Joe Rogan on his podcast speaking about MMA fighters/BJJ practitioners who juice raw marijuana; if it's not heated and binded with fat (nut butter/butter/etc.) it isn't metabolized the same way and produces NO HIGH; but supposedly raw marijuana juicing is very invigorating and healthful

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on January 05, 2013
at 02:01 AM

Whats wrong with cannabis? Its medicinal, a super cancer cure (adapted to suit each cancer).The problem becomes when your using it to fix something/solve an emotional void. Also its the crapt in nicotine cigerettes that really kills you, not the nicotine itself (also medicinal).To get you on the right track though I would keep your paleo diet really clean, no sugar, no fruit if you can do it for a while and concentrate on lots of fat, good proteins, limited carbs. Don't cheat with wheat/gluten because it takes at least six weeks to recover from even one exposure. Those christmas treats will really set you back.Keep yourself and your hands busy though. Take up a sport, find a hobby (making clothes, cooking etc.), get outside and distract yourself. Avoid the t.v. because it makes you pratically brain dead and more vulnerable to your addiction. To drop the cigs, think about how much money your spending/paying to these people to kill you (for my dad we worked it out to about 5000 a year) which really builds over time.Get angry, just like the outrage at gmos or artificial sweeteners. You'll be surprised how effective that is. Cheers:)

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on January 05, 2013
at 12:08 AM

I have never been a smoker, but I have gone through intense sugar cravings when I detoxed a couple months ago. Whenever I would feel intense sugar cravings I would make myself a cup of hot black tea to curb my craving.

Besides exercise, and taking on a hobby to keep busy the next few weeks like others have suggested, you could also fight the craving with a healthy drink, whether it be hot black tea, black coffee, water with lemon, green tea, etc. Once I would start drinking my tea, my craving would dissipate.

I know this isn't much, but I hope it helps. It helped me.

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on January 05, 2013
at 12:08 AM

Twelve step can help. You can find a meeting where you feel comfortable and talk to others who have stopped the habit and see how they did it. Meetings greatly vary so if you go this route, try a few before you decide if it works or doesn't work for you. You described good reasons in the two weeks that you didn't smoke (good sleep, springing up in the morning). Maybe make a list for yourself of what you want your life to look and feel like, get rid of your stash and your equipment and realize the cravings will eventually go away. Best of luck to you. You can do it if you want to :)

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4d9ccc8e7736ef38a6a2458ed6c1bdc1

on January 05, 2013
at 02:34 AM

www.whyquit.org was the main tool I used to help me quit smoking cigarettes cold turkey 3 years and 4 months ago after an 8 year, 1+ pack a day habit. Your body needs to re-learn how to function without certain chemicals, be it from cigarettes or pot- be patient with yourself and forgive yourself for minor setbacks. "Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future." Warm wishes for a healthy New Year!

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on January 05, 2013
at 12:33 AM

Perhaps one of those electronic cigarettes? I know former smokers who adore them. Perhaps helping the cigarette craving would help the pot cravings be manageable.

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4523f952f67fa6485efeac2c9ea810cf

(166)

on January 04, 2013
at 11:53 PM

Stop "junking out". The lows I felt from sugar always made me reach for my bong to feel better, too.

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 12:04 AM

I'm not anymore, I just had treats over the Christmas holiday.

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on January 04, 2013
at 11:43 PM

You know you're on a paleo website, right? WTH??

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(2919)

on January 05, 2013
at 03:32 AM

Get over it, Sharon. Marijuana is totally paleo.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:05 AM

Dammit Dorothy, are we back in Kansas yet?

532cfd279d793e8fcc23b9f6d91dde5c

(1981)

on January 05, 2013
at 12:05 AM

Yeah, I know, and I'm a paleo woman, trying to improve my health.

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